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This administration is loosing support fast
« on: June 29, 2010, 02:36:55 PM »
Mid term elections will show a big loss for democrats and I predict a defeat of President Obama in 2012.  His policies are not bringing us growth.  Unemployment #s will again be around 10% on Friday.  Debt is increasing by the day.  Stock market still struggling.  Things are a little better but have not rebounded like they usually do after a recession.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 02:52:50 PM »
Mid term elections will show a big loss for democrats and I predict a defeat of President Obama in 2012.  His policies are not bringing us growth.  Unemployment #s will again be around 10% on Friday.  Debt is increasing by the day.  Stock market still struggling.  Things are a little better but have not rebounded like they usually do after a recession.


I heard that Fridays' number is likely to be a mess. 

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 02:58:00 PM »
Mid term elections will show a big loss for democrats and I predict a defeat of President Obama in 2012.  His policies are not bringing us growth.  Unemployment #s will again be around 10% on Friday.  Debt is increasing by the day.  Stock market still struggling.  Things are a little better but have not rebounded like they usually do after a recession.


Doesn't matter one bit. Both parties suck. If you think otherwise..you're delusional.

Maybe we bring back George W Bush to fix the mess he started!?

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 03:00:19 PM »
Doesn't matter one bit. Both parties suck. If you think otherwise..you're delusional.

Maybe we bring back George W Bush to fix the mess he started!?

No, but I do think gridlock would be good.  The best years we had in recent memory were when Newt and Clinton were battling on how to balance the budget. 

Total one party control seems a disaster on both sides. 

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 03:02:54 PM »
No, but I do think gridlock would be good.  The best years we had in recent memory were when Newt and Clinton were battling on how to balance the budget. 

Total one party control seems a disaster on both sides. 

Always is.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 04:37:11 PM »
No, but I do think gridlock would be good.  The best years we had in recent memory were when Newt and Clinton were battling on how to balance the budget. 

Total one party control seems a disaster on both sides. 

Agreed,
But does enough get done?

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 05:18:50 PM »
No, but I do think gridlock would be good.  The best years we had in recent memory were when Newt and Clinton were battling on how to balance the budget. 

Total one party control seems a disaster on both sides. 
And they never balanced the budget. Clinton used Social Security as an ATM card. They pushed the problem further into the future. I am with Jesse Ventura on this one. Political parties should be banned. When you vote all that you should vote for is an individual - not their party. Turn the parties into lobbyists.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »
Agreed,
But does enough get done?

Sure.  It's not DC's job to push out as much legislation as possible.  Only what's necessary.  I'm with 33:  gridlock is a good thing.  I'd rather have no new legislation if the alternative is what Obama has been doing/trying to do.

Split legislative and executive branches forces them to work together.   

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2010, 06:06:38 PM »
Doesn't matter one bit. Both parties suck. If you think otherwise..you're delusional.

Maybe we bring back George W Bush to fix the mess he started!?

Wrong on so many levels. Maybe you should look back to the Fed and it's loose monetary policies? The final repeal of Glass-Steagal with the 1999 passing of the "Financial Modernization Act"? Or Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as policy tools? Look to those things and not some 2- Term President as the cause of all of this nations ill's. He fucked up plenty, but you make yourself sound like a fucking moron when you say shit like that.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 06:29:42 PM »
Agreed,
But does enough get done?
its what doesnt get done when they have both majorities that is important...


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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 06:37:00 PM »
its what doesnt get done when they have both majorities that is important...



I have been saying now for over a year, until obama reverses course on cap & trade, obamacare, card check, and the stim bill, things will get far worse. 


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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 07:07:55 PM »
Obama must have plummeted way below 45% by now on gallup.



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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 07:13:34 PM »
Obama must have plummeted way below 45% by now on gallup.




Wrong, obama has a base line 45% consisting of 95% of blacks, 65% of hispanics, and 40% of whites. 

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 08:15:52 PM »
Wait until Jan 1  when the Bush tax cuts expire,  obamas new taxes kick in ( they affect middle class too) another lie, but hey we are used to it,  and the new healthcare plan kicks in. You think things are looking bad now??
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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 08:19:34 PM »
Wait until Jan 1  when the Bush tax cuts expire,  obamas new taxes kick in ( they affect middle class too) another lie, but hey we are used to it,  and the new healthcare plan kicks in. You think things are looking bad now??

I have been reading a lot of stuff now being referred to as the tax wall coming next year, not to mention that Obama is going to push a VAT tax along with decapitate and tax taxes on us all. 

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 08:27:03 PM »
same here, there are tons of tax increases coming next year if things dont change in november. I see a vat tax comming too, especially since obama has already said they will need more than projected with the healthcare bill, (even though its supposed to pay for itself).  And if they get financial reform passed there is no telling what other taxes we will see.
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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 08:30:11 PM »
same here, there are tons of tax increases coming next year if things dont change in november. I see a vat tax comming too, especially since obama has already said they will need more than projected with the healthcare bill, (even though its supposed to pay for itself).  And if they get financial reform passed there is no telling what other taxes we will see.

Yet the dolts get all titilated bashing palin and avoid a discussion on the issues that matter.   ::)

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 08:33:20 PM »
well they have no other choice , you cant argue facts.  liberals are funny,  they want all the freedoms for people in the world, until that person says or does something the liberals dont like,  then there lil worlds come crashing down.   Perfect example of this, george soros and obama wanting to control the net, and even have a kill switch
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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 08:35:02 PM »
well they have no other choice , you cant argue facts.  liberals are funny,  they want all the freedoms for people in the world, until that person says or does something the liberals dont like,  then there lil worlds come crashing down.   Perfect example of this, george soros and obama wanting to control the net, and even have a kill switch

True, the libs were all over the patriot act and are silent now. 


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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 09:58:05 PM »
Wrong on so many levels. Maybe you should look back to the Fed and it's loose monetary policies? The final repeal of Glass-Steagal with the 1999 passing of the "Financial Modernization Act"? Or Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as policy tools? Look to those things and not some 2- Term President as the cause of all of this nations ill's. He fucked up plenty, but you make yourself sound like a fucking moron when you say shit like that.

BEST POST EVA!!!!!

Actually, I still disagree with you guys that the repeal of Glass Steagal contributed to this mess. Loose monetary policy and Fanny and Freddy caused the problem all the way. But what really makes people sound like morons is when they say that "both" parties are just as bad as the other. Bull Shitt!! The Republicans were not ideal but they were not this bad!!!! Anyone one who thinks so derserves what he gets. I have no sympathy for people without a job. People are bitching about Wall Street when the Wall Street firms have payed all their TARP funds. Fanny and Freddy got way more money from the government and  ARENT going to pay it back!!! Yeah, so Wall Street was allowed leverage ratios of 40 to 1. Fanny and Freddy did leverage ratios of 100 to 1!!!! We have a bunch of dumb voters whining and bitching about Wall Street, yet you dont hear a peep about the real problem: Fanny and Freddy. You get the government you deserve. When you vote in Hitler, expect to have bombs thrown on your head whether youre an innocent civilian or not.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 10:21:31 PM »
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True, the libs were all over the patriot act and are silent now.

of course, its the double standard that the liberals enjoy sooo much!!!
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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 06:02:56 AM »
DISASTER.
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ADP Jobs Report WAY Below Expectations
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Vincent Fernando, CFA | Jun. 30, 2010, 8:15 AM | 982 |  8


Yet another huge disappointment for markets to digest -- ADP's June employment report showed just 13,000 new jobs were added from May to June on a seasonally-adjusted basis, vs. 61,000 expected. That's clearly a huge miss.

While the report continued to show job creation, the rate of new jobs fell substantially from the 55,000 reported last month. The latest 13,000 new jobs is also far below the five month average of 34,000 new jobs per month, based on ADP. Thus there has been an obvious deceleration.



ADP:

Recent ADP Report data suggest that, following steady improvement through April, private employment may have decelerated heading into the summer. The slow pace of improvement from February through June is consistent with other publicly available data, including a pause in the decline of initial unemployment claims that occurred during the winter months.

Small businesses have even begun to cut jobs:

Large businesses, defined as those with 500 or more workers, saw employment increase by 3,000 and employment among medium-size businesses, defined as those with between 50 and 499 workers increased by 11,000. Employment among small-size businesses, defined as those with fewer than 50 workers, decreased by 1,000 in June.*

This is a huge change from the 13,000 jobs ADP said small businesses created in the previous month.

See the full report below.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/adp-employment-report-2010-6#ixzz0sLBaZAb7

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 06:45:02 AM »
Obama must have plummeted way below 45% by now on gallup.


NOPE!! Gallup actually has him at 46%, with his RCP average at 47.4. Just a few days ago, he was knotted at 46.9.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 06:47:24 AM »
NOPE!! Gallup actually has him at 46%, with his RCP average at 47.4. Just a few days ago, he was knotted at 46.9.

If blacks were not lock step voters, he would be at 40% - 42%.

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Re: This administration is loosing support fast
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 07:07:38 AM »
If blacks were not lock step voters, he would be at 40% - 42%.

But, they (by and large) generally don't show up during off-elections (excluding the Carolina one, that gave us Alvin Greene). Add to that, the novelty factor is gone. So, kiss the youth goodbye. And, you factor in the Latino vote, which sides more with enforcement of immigration laws than the left would make you think.

This spells BEATDOWN for the liberals in just over four months.