What is Mindspin's problem with Fedor?

[WeightPSHR]

The signature under his avatar says it all "Fedor finally EXPOSED". Hey mindspin, please explain that...or can you? Dude lost his first fight in TEN YEARS because he made a mistake not because he was out of shape or lost his skills....WTF is the matter you and people like you. Makes me think you're COMPLETELY clueless.

Fedor was exposed this past weekend. His record is padded and his last several fights have been against UFC rejects right off their shit-canning from the UFC. Sylvia, Arvloski, Werdum....except Werdum didn't buy into the mystique, but he is a UFC reject.

Fedor was the best of an era. That era has been gone since the new breed of HW's have come into the sport.

[WeightPSHR]

Going by Mindspins logic then Brock was exposed in his first fight with Mir!

Possibly, but Brock is also in an organization with the most top ranked HW fighters, making himself available to fight the best in the world.

The thing you cry baby Fedor fans fail to realize is that there are MANY top ranked fighters in the UFC HW division. Brock is just one of them.

My stance is that by dodging the UFC, Fedor is dodging the MAJORITY of the top ranked HW fighters in the world. This is proven by the rankings.

Did anyone really care to see him fight Rodgers or Werdum? The viewership numbers prove nobody really cared.

The only reason anyone wanted to see his fights with Arvloski and Sylvia is because they were fresh off being shit canned from the UFC, and they were still big names.

[Earl1972]

There is a lot of confusion about my opinion on Fedor.  Let me clarify:

Most consider Fedor the greatest heavyweight & P4P fighter of all time.  Some consider him the best today.  I disagree.  I believe he is one of the best heavyweights of all time.  I don't believe he is a top five P4P.  And I don't believe he is a top 5 heavyweight today.  Why? Because of the 31 fights he has won, more than half were against non-names that no one knows about.  Let's take a look:

1. Has anyone ever heard of these guys or taken a look at their fight records? Martin Lazarov, Levon Lagvilava, Hiroya Takada, Mihail Apostolov, Kerry Schall, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Lee Hasdell, Chris Haseman, Semmy Schilt, Egidijus Valavicius, Yuji Nagata, Naoya Ogawa, Wagner Martins, Hong Man Choi.  These are all people that Fedor beat.  Most of these guys have more losses on their records than they do wins.  Some only have ONE fight on their record!

2. How about two other guys that Fedor beat: Renato Sobral & Matt Linland.  Neither of these guys are heavyweights and Fedor couldn't finish Renato, and he held on to the ropes when Matt (a middle weight) went for the takedown.

3. Who has Fedor beaten in the last couple of years?  Past their prime fighters like Tim Silvia and complete Cans like Hong Man Choi, whose record is 2 wins and 3 losses.

4. Fedor has been heavily criticized for avoiding the top competition in and out of the UFC.  In spite of the UFC offering him more money than anyone ever has, he chose to stay out and continue to fight carefully selected opponents.  He even ducked the Alistar Overreem fight claiming that he didn't want to fight him because he was on steroids.  Alistar has never tested positive.  Fedor had no problem fighting Tim Silvia who has tested positive.

5. Fedor just lost to a guy who was cut from the UFC after being KTFO by Junior Dos Santos.  

Bottom line.  Half of Fedor's wins are over no name cans.  He has been ducking top competition for the last three years.  And he just lost to a UFC reject who was ranked #10.  When you add it all up, Fedor was a good heavyweight.  But, the greatest ever?  I don't think so.

 so who was better?

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[AC Slater]

If Fedor fought the same guys as Velasquez and Carwin did to build their resume's you would claim he is fighting cans.  None of those guys have fought anyone decent.

Velasquez beat a 5 years past his prime nog, carwin beat frank mir LOL.

Add a bunch of other no-namers to their record and their you go.  You could cry forever if Fedor fought the same guys as them

[WeightPSHR]

If Fedor fought the same guys as Velasquez and Carwin did to build their resume's you would claim he is fighting cans.  None of those guys have fought anyone decent.

Velasquez beat a 5 years past his prime nog, carwin beat frank mir LOL.

Add a bunch of other no-namers to their record and their you go.  You could cry forever if Fedor fought the same guys as them

Why are you still trying to compare Fedor to the current top HW's.

Fedor was exposed this weekend by a UFC reject that was ranked #10.

Fedor is irrelevant after the loss he took. Get over it, really.

[WeightPSHR]

so who was better?

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Fedor is no longer ranked #1. Get over it.

He will never retain the #1 ranking until he stops fighting UFC rejects.

[big L dawg]

If Fedor fought the same guys as Velasquez and Carwin did to build their resume's you would claim he is fighting cans.  None of those guys have fought anyone decent.

Velasquez beat a 5 years past his prime nog, carwin beat frank mir LOL.

Add a bunch of other no-namers to their record and their you go.  You could cry forever if Fedor fought the same guys as them

AGREE 100%...AS A MATTER OF FACT YOU COULD COMBINE BROCKS,CARWINS AND CAIN'S RECORDS AND THEY STILL WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY LEGIT OPPONENTS AS FEDOR HAS FOUGHT...

[The Showstoppa]

Irrelevant after one loss? Oh brother...

[theonlyone]

Fedor is no longer ranked #1. Get over it.

He will never retain the #1 ranking until he stops fighting UFC rejects.

 He's no one and was no one, get over it, meet the other Russians

[WeightPSHR]

AGREE 100%...AS A MATTER OF FACT YOU COULD COMBINE BROCKS,CARWINS AND CAIN'S RECORDS AND THEY STILL WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY LEGIT OPPONENTS AS FEDOR HAS FOUGHT...

Doesn't really matter what Fedor has done in the past, as that era has been gone for years and this past weekend the last bit of respect he was getting off of those sham fights was taken away.

Justice prevailed.

There are many HW's waiting to earn the #1 spot by fighting the best.

[WeightPSHR]

Irrelevant after one loss? Oh brother...

In regards to the top ranked HW....Yes. He is irrelevant.

Besides, For a #1 ranked HW fight, the viewership numbers were pitiful.

Nobody cares about Fedor anymore. This is 2010.

[theonlyone]

 Fedor fought just regular people, get over it, there is a new era!

[theonlyone]

In regards to the top ranked HW....Yes. He is irrelevant.

Besides, For a #1 ranked HW fight, the viewership numbers were pitiful.

Nobody cares about Fedor anymore. This is 2010.

 And Soon and there is a 2011! Forget about Fedor, he's not even has been he just never was and fought no one! This is 2010!

[Shockwave]

Really?  I have a vested interest in the UFC because I don't think Fedor is the best ever

No, because I pay attention and I know you are quite business savvy, are quite successful in whatever field you are in, and that its rumored that Dana White takes care of people who mod MMA forums to promote UFC. Thats why it makes sense. And because of the way you argue and fight, like you are some sort of authority on MMA. lol.
I wouldnt put it past Dana, it seems to me like hes trying to make the UFC a sort of scripted "real" version of the WWE. I called it a long time ago, when Brock got sick, I said, watch, hes gonna go out, everyones got think hes done, Dana's gonna make it all dramatic and then hes gonna come back and have this huge "come back" so everyone loves him, and he'll be the undisputed Heavy Champion and all the fans will adore him cause hes the comeback kid. Just my .02.

[theonlyone]

 IF Fedor beats the shit out of that guy from Brazil and retire is he ok?

[Shockwave]

He's no one and was no one, get over it, meet the other Russians

What the fuck is this cryptic nonsense you keep babbling about?
Heres a hint, fucking just say what your talking about instead of trying to use all this dramatic shit to get your point across.
Who the fuck are you talking about? Jesus christ.

[Earl1972]

it's just proof that no matter how great you are, there is always haters

no fighter is more respected by his peers than Fedor Emelianenko, no fighter commands more respect, they are in awe of him

only tito ortiz has said he's overrated, does he even count?  tito is infamous for being a disrespectful punk that nobody likes

he's the Michael Jordan of mma, the haters will say his washington stint tainted his career

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[theonlyone]

What the fuck is this cryptic nonsense you keep babbling about?
Heres a hint, fucking just say what your talking about instead of trying to use all this dramatic shit to get your point across.
Who the fuck are you talking about? Jesus christ.

 You are one of those who last 1 min and begin furious then gas out, trust me...

[NarcissisticDeity]

it's just proof that no matter how great you are, there is always haters

no fighter is more respected by his peers than Fedor Emelianenko, no fighter commands more respect, they are in awe of him

only tito ortiz has said he's overrated, does he even count?  tito is infamous for being a disrespectful punk that nobody likes

he's the Michael Jordan of mma, the haters will say his washington stint tainted his career

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Hahahahahaha Tito calling someone overrated , talk about irony , I hated tito and always thought he was a vastly overrated fighter

[Shockwave]

Hahahahahaha Tito calling someone overrated , talk about irony , I hated tito and always thought he was a vastly overrated fighter

He was the King Kamali of MMA, every time he opened his mouth Chuck knocked that fucker shut with his right. 

[WeightPSHR]

it's just proof that no matter how great you are, there is always haters

no fighter is more respected by his peers than Fedor Emelianenko, no fighter commands more respect, they are in awe of him

only tito ortiz has said he's overrated, does he even count?  tito is infamous for being a disrespectful punk that nobody likes

he's the Michael Jordan of mma, the haters will say his washington stint tainted his career

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FACT: Fedor is NO LONGER ranked #1. That is all that really matters to true MMA fans.

Justice prevailed this past weekend, and Fedor got bit in the ass for fighting a #10 ranked guy.

The rest is subjective and I could really care less.

[Shockwave]

FACT: Fedor is NO LONGER ranked #1. That is all that really matters to true MMA fans.

Justice prevailed this past weekend, and Fedor got bit in the ass for fighting a #10 ranked guy.

The rest is subjective and I could really care less.

So what youre saying, is that youre an idiot and you really care? lol.
Monster grasp of the english language.

[theonlyone]

FACT: Fedor is NO LONGER ranked #1. That is all that really matters to true MMA fans.

Justice prevailed this past weekend, and Fedor got bit in the ass for fighting a #10 ranked guy.

The rest is subjective and I could really care less.

 Who will be the king next?

[WeightPSHR]

So what youre saying, is that youre an idiot and you really care? lol.
Monster grasp of the english language.

LOL

All I care is that Fedor was finally exposed and now will actaully have to EARN his #1 spot back.

[Earl1972]

FACT: Fedor is NO LONGER ranked #1. That is all that really matters to true MMA fans.

Justice prevailed this past weekend, and Fedor got bit in the ass for fighting a #10 ranked guy.

The rest is subjective and I could really care less.

since you care so much about rankings werdum is now number 2, so much for being a can

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/2/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-25392

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