Which Mr. Olympia contest had the most ridiculous outcome?

[Nirvana]

You dont judge a bb contest from 1 pic taken from 1 angle and try and claim superiority.
You really are a fucking moron. lol. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you really are a fucking idiot.

i didn't post the pics too claim superiority, way to jump the gun poindexter. you melt down too much.

im still waiting on some nasser dorian side by side pics to prove my statement wrong

[Nirvana]

pics induce team dorian to have severe hissy fits

[Parker]

pics induce team dorian to have severe hissy fits

Until Nasser turned around, and even Arnold voiced his disappointment.

[Nirvana]

Until Nasser turned around, and even Arnold voiced his disappointment.

we've been over this, I'm not a guy who thinks "Nasser had a great back"

[JP_RC]

ok now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing

if you don't know what more complete means you don't know what you're looking at

let's break it down for you

who had better legs? nasser obviously

Who had better arms? nasser

who had a better chest? nasser again

Who's shoulders are better? nasser

but yates still wins lats

by better I mean more balanced, size, shape, condition.  post pics of dorian and nasser together to prove any of these statements wrong

Are you just trollling here? It seems so based on your response.

Again, the only advantage Nasser had over Dorian as far as bodyparts go is biceps, the rest go to Dorian including legs, chest, shoulders and triceps.

I know what more complete means, its seems you don't know though.

by better I mean more balanced, size, shape, condition.  post pics of dorian and nasser together to prove any of these statements wrong

Are you kidding? Nasser had better balance, size, shape and condition? Conditioning?  I have to laugh at you, sorry.

Dorian had much better conditioning than Nasser, while having just as much size or even more.
You could give Nasser shape though, but barely.

[JP_RC]

lets break it down for you

legs - nasser

arms- nasser

chest - nasser

shoulders - nasser

back - dorian

the total package - nasser

in 95 96 and 97 nasser was also much bigger more separated and better conditioned

post pics to prove any of these statements wrong.

Ok, you're just trolling around here........who's team nasser gimmick are you?

[Nirvana]

Are you just trollling here? It seems so based on your response.

Again, the only advantage Nasser had over Dorian as far as bodyparts go is biceps, the rest go to Dorian including legs, chest, shoulders and triceps.

I know what more complete means, its seems you don't know though.


Are you kidding? Nasser had better balance, size, shape and condition? Conditioning?  I have to laugh at you, sorry.

Dorian had much better conditioning than Nasser, while having just as much size or even more.
You could give Nasser shape though, but barely.

post pics of them together to prove it.

[Nirvana]

[Nirvana]

Ok, you're just trolling around here........who's team nasser gimmick are you?

Claiming someone is trolling is not helping your argument.

[Grape Ape]

Claiming someone is trolling is not helping your argument.

Kind of like your posts.

[Nirvana]

Kind of like your posts.

in this case makes no sense, but still a clever post

[Grape Ape]

in this case makes no sense, but still a clever post

It's not personal, but you're following the same path - ignoring judging criteria, making it a collection of individual bodyparts, then using individual photos to back up your claim.  

If you look at the reasons ND knows the judging criteria so well, it's because he himself couldn't understand how Flex Wheeler lost to Dorian Yates.  Instead of taking the easy route, he learned about how the sport is judged.  So, in essence, he started on the same page.

Your point about the best bodybulder on that day not winning the show just leads to the discussion of politics.  Which leads to using your own subjective criteria to cherry pick which shows were the result of politics and which shows were correctly judged.....Wash, rinse, repeat.

But, throughout all this, although I feel Hulkster basically ties himself in knots every time he tries to make a point, the Dorian/Fat Bastard pics still cracks me up, and I'm a Dorian fan.

[Nirvana]

It's not personal, but you're following the same path - ignoring judging criteria, making it a collection of individual bodyparts, then using individual photos to back up your claim.  

If you look at the reasons ND knows the judging criteria so well, it's because he himself couldn't understand how Flex Wheeler lost to Dorian Yates.  Instead of taking the easy route, he learned about how the sport is judged.  So, in essence, he started on the same page.

Your point about the best bodybulder on that day not winning the show just leads to the discussion of politics.  Which leads to using your own subjective criteria to cherry pick which shows were the result of politics and which shows were correctly judged.....Wash, rinse, repeat.

But, throughout all this, although I feel Hulkster basically ties himself in knots every time he tries to make a point, the Dorian/Fat Bastard pics still cracks me up, and I'm a Dorian fan.

so are we gonna fight or what?

[Grape Ape]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Main reason why Hulkster can't see Dorian's greatness is because he is too busy staring and drooling at Ronnie's glutes.

So true lol

[Nirvana]

So true lol

oh man Hulkster I can't help you here

[NarcissisticDeity]

post pics of them together to prove it.

You're a troll just like our dumb friend Hulkster , any pictures posted wont satisfy your point of view because you already have a predetermined opinion , you're not looking for a ' debate ' you're looking to troll and nothing more , so good luck with it.

[Nirvana]

You're a troll just like our dumb friend Hulkster , any pictures posted wont satisfy your point of view because you already have a predetermined opinion , you're not looking for a ' debate ' you're looking to troll and nothing more , so good luck with it.

you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better

[Shockwave]

you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better

Pics will prove your point to you, not to anyone that knows what youre looking at, thats why we all refuse to debate with you.
You already have decided who looks better, it doesnt matter what pics we post. lol.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better

Sure they will  you're just like Hulkster and Bigbobs and every other delusional guy who sees what they want to see , you see Nasser winning , I see Dorian winning and so did the judges this renders your opinion worthless

[Nirvana]

Pics will prove your point to you, not to anyone that knows what youre looking at, thats why we all refuse to debate with you.
You already have decided who looks better, it doesnt matter what pics we post. lol.

I don't choose who has the better physique based on my favorite. I don't care for flex Wheeler but he beats JP Fux anyday

nasser is just better, seeing them side by side proves it

[Nirvana]

Sure they will   you're just like Hulkster and Bigbobs and every other delusional guy who sees what they want to see , you see Nasser winning , I see Dorian winning and so did the judges this renders your opinion worthless

please explain to me how dorian is better and back it up with a pic, it's not a hard task or concept

here's an example




JPF has too much gut, not nearly as sharp and lacks flex's balance

in the nasser/dorian pics,

relaxed - dorian is noticably smaller has much thicker waist with unseparated quads and appears to be drunk

FDB - if need to explain this one you're blind

most muscular - they both have good striations in the chest but once again nasser completely out masses dorian, and has both arms

if you think size doesn't matter then I suggest re-reading the word bodybuilding, or we can talk about why shawn ray never won an olympia

[NarcissisticDeity]

please explain to me how dorian is better and back it up with a pic, it's not a hard task or concept

here's an example




JPF has too much gut, not nearly as sharp and lacks flex's balance

Where should I begin? a fully-flexed pic of a contest ready Wheeler with posing oil and contest lighting compared to a semi-flexed Fux off-season , and you're claiming he's ' not as sharp ' lmfao

I don't have to explained how Dorian was better , you want that info ask the judges all 13 of them who independently came to that conclusion , Dorian was deemed better you have your excuses and he has the Sandows.

[Nirvana]

Where should I begin? a fully-flexed pic of a contest ready Wheeler with posing oil and contest lighting compared to a semi-flexed Fux off-season , and you're claiming he's ' not as sharp ' lmfao

I don't have to explained how Dorian was better , you want that info ask the judges all 13 of them who independently came to that conclusion , Dorian was deemed better you have your excuses and he has the Sandows.

we've been through the judges, what they say is not always the truth, your talking circles and keep going back to the "he won that means he's the best" conclusion, which is just not valid

[NarcissisticDeity]

we've been through the judges, what they say is not always the truth, your talking circles and keep going back to the "he won that means he's the best" conclusion, which is just not valid

Yeah we have been through the judges , they are WRONG  when you don't like the winner and RIGHT when you do

the ' comparison ' you just posted was beyond laughable and it's no wonder why you think Yates lost to Nasser you're ignorant to how the game is played

You just posted an off-season picture of a semi-flexed Fux compared to a enhanced picture of a contest ready Flex with contest lighting and posing oil fully flexed and you actually had the balls to type Flex is ' sharper ' lmfao you know nothing and you've just proven that