QUESTION: At what point do Obama and the Dems take responsibility?

[240 is Back]

Real UE is 16.6%.  The "official UE rate" from the BLS is a political number, nothing else. 

Soooo

Bush inherited a 3.97% unemployment rate and more than DOUBLED it when he left office to 8.1%.

The day Obama took the oath - It was at 8%, correct?

Soooo if it is 9.7% or so today...

(Also... if the UE rate is BS today... was it also BS under Clinton and Bush?)

[Soul Crusher]

Soooo

Bush inherited a 3.97% unemployment rate and more than DOUBLED it when he left office to 8.1%.

The day Obama took the oath - It was at 8%, correct?

Soooo if it is 9.7% or so today...

(Also... if the UE rate is BS today... was it also BS under Clinton and Bush?)

Wrong 240 - when Obama took over it was at 6 point something.

And show me where Bush inhereited 3.97% 

[240 is Back]

Wrong 240 - when Obama took over it was at 6 point something.

And show me where Bush inhereited 3.97% 

Really? 

[Skip8282]

Wrong 240 - when Obama took over it was at 6 point something.

And show me where Bush inhereited 3.97% 

240's numbers are right, but it doesn't change the fact that it's continued to rise under Barry's leadership.  I have a feeling his next campaign will continue to be all about "blame Bush" no matter how much time he has had.

[Eyeball Chambers]

QUESTION:  At what point do Obama and the Dems take responsibility?

Almost two years in people are still blaming Bush.

So my question is, at what point is it valid to start blaming the Democrats and Obama since the Dems took over the Legislative Branch in 2006 and the WH in 2008? 

Obama has followed Bush's lead to a T, they're both equally responsible.  We can't change what Bush did, so I'd say it's time to focus on Obama...

[240 is Back]

240's numbers are right, but it doesn't change the fact that it's continued to rise under Barry's leadership.  I have a feeling his next campaign will continue to be all about "blame Bush" no matter how much time he has had.

please give me the actual numbers with links- what was the UE rate on Jan 20, 2001, and what was the UE rate on Jan 20, 2009?  

Maybe google gave me the wrong numbers.  Thanks!

[tonymctones]

Obama has followed Bush's lead to a T, they're both equally responsible.  We can't change what Bush did, so I'd say it's time to focus on Obama...

youre making to much sense bro 240 and the liberal goof troop dont want to admit yet that their saviour was a dud...they will come around sooner or later but they just simply arent ready to face the reality of the situation so they continue to bring up palin/bush/mccain as equivilants to make them feel better about their knee padding...

[Soul Crusher]

youre making to much sense bro 240 and the liberal goof troop dont want to admit yet that their saviour was a dud...they will come around sooner or later but they just simply arent ready to face the reality of the situation so they continue to bring up palin/bush/mccain as equivilants to make them feel better about their knee padding...

These dopes place stupid comments by stupid people like palin, steele, barton, boehner et al on the same level as as the disastrous laws, policies, and regulations being put into place by their messiah. 

You just cant make this up anymore as to how deluded the left is. 

[MCWAY]

QUESTION:  At what point do Obama and the Dems take responsibility?

A) Hell freezing over
B) Cure for Cancer/AIDS
C) Richard Simmons defeating Jay Cutler for the Olympia
D) Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl

[Soul Crusher]

Mons or Lurker - can you help us out on this thread? 

[MB]

If a president leaves office with a higher national debt than when he took the oath, he failed the country.  Period.   

[tallandfat]

Never thats when.

Why do they hate being called communists?  They are.  Someone unthaw mccarthy.

[Option D]

QUESTION:  At what point do Obama and the Dems take responsibility?

Almost two years in people are still blaming Bush.

So my question is, at what point is it valid to start blaming the Democrats and Obama since the Dems took over the Legislative Branch in 2006 and the WH in 2008? 

So do Repubs take responsibility?

[Soul Crusher]

So do Repubs take responsibility?

They should for a portion of the mess.   

However, the Dems were elected in 2006, and obama in 2008, claiming they had all the answers, would end the wars, the economy, taxes, etc.

Its years later and things are drastically worse.   

[Option D]

They should for a portion of the mess.   

However, the Dems were elected in 2006, and obama in 2008, claiming they had all the answers, would end the wars, the economy, taxes, etc.

Its years later and things are drastically worse.   

when repubs are eleceted...are they chosen because they told the country that they had the answers?

[Soul Crusher]

when repubs are eleceted...are they chosen because they told the country that they had the answers?

They were and screwed up and were replaced, rightfully. 

The GOP was a disaster.  But two wrongs don't make a right. 

And Obama/Pelosi begged for the job and asked for your vote based on their claims to have the answers to all the wrongs committed by Bush. 

Would you have voted for Obama if his only message was "Vote for me, I look better in shades than gramps"?   

[Option D]

They were and screwed up and were replaced, rightfully. 

The GOP was a disaster.  But two wrongs don't make a right. 

And Obama/Pelosi begged for the job and asked for your vote based on their claims to have the answers to all the wrongs committed by Bush. 

Would you have voted for Obama if his only message was "Vote for me, I look better in shades than gramps"?   

So shouldnt your thread title read "POLITICANS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY"

[Soul Crusher]

So shouldnt your thread title read "POLITICANS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY"

It was labeled that way since everyone is still blaming Bush and the GOP.  Fine, I don't think there are anyone, including myself who does not attribute a ton of blame to what they did.

Other than Alito & Roberts, I mostly despised Bush, and still am revolted by Boehner, McCconnell and those fools. 

No one says obama didnt walk into a mess, but it is something he campaigned for and something he said he had the answers to.  4 years after Pelosi took over the Congress, things have only gotten worse. 

Almost 2 years into his presidency nothing really has changed, but for the worse.  He and Pelosi are still blaming Bush, so my question is when they will take responsibility themselves, if ever? 

BTW - one thing that is utterly revolting to me is how the people like Delay, Hasstert, Frist, et al never apologized for their bs.     

   

[Skip8282]

So shouldnt your thread title read "POLITICANS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY"

I sincerely hope you're not this retarded in medicine.  It's a topical discussion board and the topic in this thread is Obama and Democrats.  If you want to talk about Republicans taking responsibility, then just start a thread on that topic - instead of crying like a little bitch.

[Option D]

I sincerely hope you're not this retarded in medicine.  It's a topical discussion board and the topic in this thread is Obama and Democrats.  If you want to talk about Republicans taking responsibility, then just start a thread on that topic - instead of crying like a little bitch.

Son watch your mouth...i will earth slam your punk ass. Im not going to go into the argument with you...but watch your fuckin mouth bitch

[Skip8282]

Son watch your mouth...i will earth slam your punk ass. Im not going to go into the argument with you...but watch your fuckin mouth bitch

I'm not feelin' any luv from you.

[Mons Venus]

The GOP was a disaster.    

No shit Sherlock 

[240 is Back]

If a president leaves office with a higher national debt than when he took the oath, he failed the country.  Period.   

isn't that just about eveyr prez in history?

[Soul Crusher]

No shit Sherlock 

However, the Dems are worse x 1,000,000,000

[Mons Venus]

However, the Dems are worse x 1,000,000,000

No finger pointing............BOTH ruined our Country.