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Feds to file lawsuit over Arizona immigration law
AFP/Getty Images/File – A view of the fence separating the cities of Nogales, Arizona and Nogales, Sonora Mexico. Americans are …

By BOB CHRISTIE, Associated Press Writer Bob Christie, Associated Press Writer – 54 mins ago


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PHOENIX – The U.S. Justice Department is filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and state over the nation's toughest immigration crackdown.

The planned lawsuit was confirmed to The Associated Press by a Justice Department official with knowledge of the plans. The official didn't want to be identified before a public announcement planned for later Tuesday.

The lawsuit will argue that Arizona's new measure requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws, like traffic stops, usurps federal authority.

Tuesday's action has been expected for weeks. President Barack Obama has called the state law misguided. Supporters say it is a reasonable reaction to federal inaction on immigration.

The law requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion that they are in the country illegally.

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed the law in April, and it was set to go into effect July 29. The lawsuit could delay implementation of the law.

Arizona passed the law after years of frustration over problems associated with illegal immigration, including drug trafficking and violent kidnappings. The state is the biggest gateway into the U.S. for illegal immigrants, and is home to an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants.

The lawsuit is expected to be announced by Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano, a former Arizona governor.

President Barack Obama addressed the Arizona law in a speech on immigration reform last week. He touched on one of the major concerns of federal officials, that other states were poised to follow Arizona by crafting their own immigration enforcement laws.

"As other states and localities go their own ways, we face the prospect that different rules for immigration will apply in different parts of the country," Obama said. "A patchwork of local immigration rules where we all know one clear national standard is needed."

The law makes it a state crime for legal immigrants to not carry their immigration documents and bans day laborers and people who seek their services from blocking traffic on streets.

The law also prohibits government agencies from having policies that restrict the enforcement of federal immigration law and lets Arizonans file lawsuits against agencies that hinder immigration enforcement.

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Bring it on ZERO.  60% or better agree with AZ on this. 



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I wish the States would sue these Federal douche bags regarding the unconstitutional Patriot Act...
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The Fed Govt needs to be shut down like Newt wanted in 1995. 

 


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sorry, if some AZ cop decides my FL DL isn't good enough when I'm driving thru - and because I don't carry my birth cert (who does?), I have to spend all day in cuffs in a processing center?

Yeah, that's some bullshit.  Screw that law.  Notable republicans like Tancredo, Jeb, and Krystol are right about this law - it can lead to rights violations.  You keep the RINOs like mccain and palin cheering it on.  

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sorry, if some AZ cop decides my FL DL isn't good enough when I'm driving thru - and because I don't carry my birth cert (who does?), I have to spend all day in cuffs in a processing center?

Yeah, that's some bullshit.  Screw that law.  Notable republicans like Tancredo, Jeb, and Krystol are right about this law - it can lead to rights violations.  You keep the RINOs like mccain and palin cheering it on.  

Wow,there is so much wrong here its amazing.First of all Krystol is the biggest RINO/NEO CON there is and Jeb is right behind him.McCain doesnt cheer this law,he laments it,but says he understands it because the federal government doesnt do its job.To try to say Jeb Bush Tancredo and Krystol are notable republicans while trying to diminish the presidential candidate and vice presidential candidtate is one of the most amazing stretches ever.Im surprised your shoulders dont hurt after that stretch.

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mccain opposes amnesty now as well.   we all saw him championing it just 18 months ago.  Hell, he WROTE the legislation with Teddy kennedy.  You don't get more lib than that.

Today, he's suddenly against it.  palin is suddenly against sanctuary cities (although they were cool when she was governor).

You bring up the 2008 ticket - why?  it's old news.  Those 2 change positions when politically convenient.

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If Obama simply did his damn job, same for W, we would not need this law.  

Illegals are like locusts, they destroy everything.  

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mccain opposes amnesty now as well.   we all saw him championing it just 18 months ago.  Hell, he WROTE the legislation with Teddy kennedy.  You don't get more lib than that.

Today, he's suddenly against it.  palin is suddenly against sanctuary cities (although they were cool when she was governor).

You bring up the 2008 ticket - why?  it's old news.  Those 2 change positions when politically convenient.

McCain said he got the message of how many Americans HATED that bill and said he understood you have to close the border first.I think he would still support amnesty if they closed the border first.

I find it INCREDIBLE that you excuse a red neck racist like Robert Byrd,a klansman and THE MAN that led the filabuster against the civil rights bill, by  saying " he changed and thats a good thing",but jump all over McCain,who said he got the message from Americans a lie.Its like you are in bizzaro world.

By the way,ANYONE that claims Krystol and Jeb Bush and Tancredo are more important to republicans then McCain and Palin either has his head in the sand or isnt very smart.Old news?Christ,I havent seen Jeb Bush in 5 years,talk about old news.Tancredo couldnt get 2% of the vote in the primaries,hes old before anyone knew him.

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I really hope the feds win and strike down this bogus 'law' if not well i guess i'll set up shop in AZ selling fake documents to illegals so they can pass this bullsh*t. 
Abandon every hope...

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I really hope the feds win and strike down this bogus 'law' if not well i guess i'll set up shop in AZ selling fake documents to illegals so they can pass this bullsh*t. 

Do you wish that the Fed. Gov do its job and deport those here illegally? 

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I really hope the feds win and strike down this bogus 'law' if not well i guess i'll set up shop in AZ selling fake documents to illegals so they can pass this bullsh*t. 

To be honest I dont care one way or the other but I will side with the state because I hate Obama/Holder.

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seeing as how this law mirrors the federal law why are all these bleeding heart liberal panzies just now crying ? and this law hasnt ever started yet?   where is all the outrage at the feds for their law that is the same as AZ.
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If *****/Holder/Pelosi/Reid did their jobs we would not be discussing this.  

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Via Drudge
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Illegal Immigration Costs U.S. $113 Billion a Year, Study Finds
By Ed Barnes

Published July 06, 2010
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The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a staggering $113 billion a year -- an average of $1,117 for every “native-headed” household in America -- according to a study conducted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

The study, a copy of which was provided to FoxNews.com, “is the first and most detailed look at the costs of illegal immigration ever done,” says Bob Dane, director of communications at FAIR, a conservative organization that seeks to end almost all immigration to the U.S.

FAIR's opponents in the bitter immigration debate describe the organization as "extremist," though it is regularly called upon to testify before Congress.

Groups that support immigration reform immediately attacked FAIR's report and pointed out that it is the polar opposite of the Perryman Report, a 2008 study that found illegal immigration was actually a boon to the American economy. It estimated that illegal immigrants add $245 billion in Gross Domestic Product to the economy and account for 2.8 million jobs.

The FAIR report comes as President Obama moves immigration reform to the top of his agenda, and it is likely to be a rallying point for those who oppose the president. At a speech Thursday at American University in Washington, D.C., Obama argued that the entire immigration system is broken and needs sweeping reforms. Among the changes he said are needed is "a path for [farm] workers to earn legal status," which the president's critics called an opening for a new amnesty program.

FAIR's report argues that there are two choices in the immigration debate: “One choice is pursuing a strategy that discourages future illegal migration and increasingly diminishes the current illegal alien population through denial of job opportunities and deportations. The other choice,” it says, “would repeat the unfortunate decision made in 1986 to adopt an amnesty that invited continued illegal migration.”

Click here to read FAIR's Executive Summary

The report states that an amnesty program wouldn’t appreciably increase tax revenue and would cost massive amounts in Social Security and public assistance expenses. An amnesty “would therefore be an accentuation of the already enormous fiscal burden,” the report concludes.

The single largest cost to the government of illegal immigration, according to the report, is an estimated $52 billion spent on schooling the children of illegals. “Nearly all those costs are absorbed by state and local governments,’ the report states.

Moreover, the study’s breakdown of costs on a state-by-state basis shows that in states with the largest number of illegals, the costs of illegal immigration are often greater than current, crippling budget deficits. In Texas, for example, the additional cost of immigration, $16.4 billion, is equal to the state’s current budget deficit; in California the additional cost of illegal immigration, $21.8 billion, is $8 billion more than the state’s current budget deficit of $13.8 billion; and in New York, the $6.8 billion deficit is roughly two-thirds the $9.5 billion yearly cost of its illegal population, according to Jack Martin, the researcher who completed the study.

Click here to see FAIR's state by state costs.

“The most important finding of the study is the enormous cost to state and local governments due to lack of enforcement of our immigration laws,” Martin wrote.

The report found that the federal government paid $28.6 billion in illegal related costs, and state and local governments paid $84.2 billion on an estimated 13 million undocumented residents. In his speech, Obama estimated that there are 11 million.

But FAIR's critics said the report wrongly included American-born children of undocumented workers in its study.

“The single biggest 'expense' it attributes to unauthorized immigrants is the education of their children, yet most of these children are native-born, U.S. citizens who will grow up to be taxpaying adults," said Walter Ewing, a senior researcher at the American Immigration Council. "It is disingenuous to count the cost of investing in the education of these children, so that they will earn higher incomes and pay more in taxes when they are adults, as if it were nothing more than a cost incurred by their parents."

He added that “the report fails to account for the purchasing power of unauthorized consumers, which supports U.S. businesses and U.S. jobs” and that it “ignores the value added to the U.S. economy by unauthorized workers, particularly in the service sector.”

Martin said FAIR expected that criticism, but that because the children are a direct result of illegal immigration, their inclusion was both fair and reasonable.

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NY and CA could end their budget issues if they deported the illegal alien scum and vermin. 

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Cost_Study_2010_Budget_Gaps_vs_Costs.pdf


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I really hope the feds win and strike down this bogus 'law' if not well i guess i'll set up shop in AZ selling fake documents to illegals so they can pass this bullsh*t. 

There's nothing bogus about it. All it does is show that Arizona is tired of Mr. "Hope and Change", dragging his you-know-what, and not doing his job (because he's sucking up to Latinos, hoping to prevent a beatdown in 2010 for the Dems and a woodshed-whipping for himself in 2012).

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I can't see how the feds can win this lawsuit.  This will force other states to pass similar legislation unless they want to take on the 460,000 illegals that will be fleeing AZ. 

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sorry, if some AZ cop decides my FL DL isn't good enough when I'm driving thru

most illegals dont have lisences PERIOD....chances of it happening are slim to none...

you might as wel have said " if i got struck with a meteor while farting and eating a fried twinke and some AZ cop decides that my lisence is invisible even though i show it to him"  :-\

now what if a florida cop desides that u r an escaped mexican  from AZ and harasses you...

the possibilities r endless
carpe` vaginum!

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haha the FAIR report is full of sh*t more double d huh 333?  Deflection and disinformation.  The M.O. of 333.  
Abandon every hope...

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I really hope the feds win and strike down this bogus 'law' if not well i guess i'll set up shop in AZ selling fake documents to illegals so they can pass this bullsh*t. 

Leftist meltdown!

Why don't you save everyone the trouble and just move to Mexico, scumbag?


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haha the FAIR report is full of sh*t more double d huh 333?  Deflection and disinformation.  The M.O. of 333.  

Why is that?

I guess only the report from the SPLC or the ACLU has any merit with you KC?  

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by the time hussein is done this will be the united states of  mexico,  he wont have to move to mexico
down with hussein

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Leftist meltdown!

Why don't you save everyone the trouble and just move to Mexico, scumbag?



If it's enacted i will do what i can to help undermine it. 
Abandon every hope...

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If it's enacted i will do what i can to help undermine it. 

Good, go to AZ and try it out.