Game on: Feds to file lawsuit over AZ immigration law today. BRING IT ZERO!

[kcballer]

Show me one country on the planet with even half our population that fits the model of green energy you think is available, affordable, and viable. 

Once again showing your ignorance.  Nuclear technology (with 3rd generation recycling of waste material) and offshore wind are both more than viable for the energy of this country long term.  You should really look into this before you make such ignorant statements.  Maybe you should step outside the fox news oil loving box and see exactly where technology is and where it can take us. 

You're talking about taking 10-20 years minimum to get something somewhat viable from colorado using a highly environmentally insensitive method, invest that time and money in nuclear and wind and you have yourself a sustainable ongoing power source with a fraction of the emissions and totally renewable.  Continue the use of oil for transportation until we have the energy abundance to make electric gas hybrids more affordable and sustainable.  Not only do you have energy independence but you also cut emissions and create jobs that will be needed ongoing long after any oil would have run out. 

It's about long term solutions not band aides. 

[Soul Crusher]

Once again showing your ignorance.  Nuclear technology (with 3rd generation recycling of waste material) and offshore wind are both more than viable for the energy of this country long term.  You should really look into this before you make such ignorant statements.  Maybe you should step outside the fox news oil loving box and see exactly where technology is and where it can take us. 

You're talking about taking 10-20 years minimum to get something somewhat viable from colorado using a highly environmentally insensitive method, invest that time and money in nuclear and wind and you have yourself a sustainable ongoing power source with a fraction of the emissions and totally renewable.  Continue the use of oil for transportation until we have the energy abundance to make electric gas hybrids more affordable and sustainable.  Not only do you have energy independence but you also cut emissions and create jobs that will be needed ongoing long after any oil would have run out. 

It's about long term solutions not band aides. 

Again - name me one country. 

[kcballer]

Again - name me one country. 

  

You're such a dunce when you talk about this issue. 

[Soul Crusher]

 

You're such a dunce when you talk about this issue. 

No, I want reality, not pie in the sky fantasy land.   

[Option D]

There is no downside to Oil Shale

First and most
Creates a shit ton of American Jobs and Fully REvives and entire industry in the states...

2) We can slash the Price per barrel...Right now we are at $75/barrel...we can cut that in half to $35/barrel or lower

3) We will be able to stop depending on oil from the saudis which would take a factor out of our political dealings with the middle east...

4) Unlike offshore drilling a mile under water...we can get to a leak...above ground...

PErsonally i dont see any down side to it

[240 is Back]

LOL sorry hoss but youre not the law which is precisely why we need to give the officers the opportunity to inquire about citizenship...

its your right to make sure your house is safe its not your right to run down the street and harrass ppl standing at the corner gas station...thats the police's duty and you want to limit their ability to determine who is and who isnt breaking the law...congrats 

you keep making it about legal/illegals.  I made it about "kicking out people up to no good".

Yes, if I lived next door to a gas station and there were hookers and dealers and beggars there, I would have the cops there all the time until they just went somewhere else. 

Sorry, but "harass" people who are just bumping the bop at the gas station?  Go the fvck home.  Don't just loiter looking for trouble.  They have big "No tresspass" and "no loitering" signs for a reason.

Our trailer park had a gas station adjacent with hookers, dealers, beggars, and cats just hanging out.  Every time the police would roll thru the park, they'd shake down the no-good-doers at the as station while they were there.

Sorry, maybe you're cool with 3 to 8 people just milling around a gas station at night.  not me. 

[Soul Crusher]

you keep making it about legal/illegals.  I made it about "kicking out people up to no good".

Yes, if I lived next door to a gas station and there were hookers and dealers and beggars there, I would have the cops there all the time until they just went somewhere else. 

Sorry, but "harass" people who are just bumping the bop at the gas station?  Go the fvck home.  Don't just loiter looking for trouble.  They have big "No tresspass" and "no loitering" signs for a reason.

Our trailer park had a gas station adjacent with hookers, dealers, beggars, and cats just hanging out.  Every time the police would roll thru the park, they'd shake down the no-good-doers at the as station while they were there.

Sorry, maybe you're cool with 3 to 8 people just milling around a gas station at night.  not me. 

Bro - I have a whole major city boulevard packed with THOUSANDS of illegals on the street near me.  if i should up with my AR, Glock, Benelli, guess who goes away, the illegals or me? 

[Option D]

Bro - I have a whole major city boulevard packed with THOUSANDS of illegals on the street near me.  if i should up with my AR, Glock, Benelli, guess who goes away, the illegals or me? 

What kind of glock you got..I thought about getting one...i still use my trusty P99

[Soul Crusher]

What kind of glock you got..I thought about getting one...i still use my trusty P99

I have a 17 and a 26.  I'm not kidding when I tell you that the 26 is the best gun i have ever had or shot bar none.  Its small, concealable, etc.  I literally have tens of thousands of rounds threw my glocks and never once have had a jam or anything.     

Its small, but its a 9mm and accepts the pre-ban hi capacity mags.   At 25 Yards I am far better than with the 17.  I don't even shoot my 17 anymore as the 26 is more accurate.  At 15 yards, I am as good as the guys with the $1,200 Kimbers.

I shot my friends' HK and prefer the glock by far.  Once you get used to the trigger, its an even better gun.  Ask 240, he will tell you the same thing.     
 

[240 is Back]

Bro - I have a whole major city boulevard packed with THOUSANDS of illegals on the street near me.  if i should up with my AR, Glock, Benelli, guess who goes away, the illegals or me? 

start calling the police on them.  You smell pot.  you heard a gunshot.  Get your neighbors and friends to do the same. 

See, I don't see anyone out there as illegal/legals.  I see them as either productive members of society, or dirtbag no-good-doers.  The police are a tool which can be used to remove them from your block.   Enough people do this, and they stop misbehaving, or they go to a place where it is cool to do so.  Another country, or their own little shantytown, it matters not to me.  But not on my block.

You don't have to run down there with your glock.  But if one small group is causing trouble, bring your own group - cause legal glocks beat out street heat everytime.

[Soul Crusher]

start calling the police on them.  You smell pot.  you heard a gunshot.  Get your neighbors and friends to do the same. 

See, I don't see anyone out there as illegal/legals.  I see them as either productive members of society, or dirtbag no-good-doers.  The police are a tool which can be used to remove them from your block.   Enough people do this, and they stop misbehaving, or they go to a place where it is cool to do so.  Another country, or their own little shantytown, it matters not to me.  But not on my block.

You don't have to run down there with your glock.  But if one small group is causing trouble, bring your own group - cause legal glocks beat out street heat everytime.

Not where i live.  the illegal is the victim and is protected.  A guy like me ia a relic and is to be locked up. 

[Fury]

 

You're such a dunce when you talk about this issue. 

Why do you avoid every question directed at you and resort to personal insults? 

[240 is Back]

Not where i live.  the illegal is the victim and is protected.  A guy like me ia a relic and is to be locked up. 

police have to respond when called.

Get 5 of your neighbors to call in 40 minute increments, on a diff scheulde every night.  it's not like they're lying - chances are, there's a shitload of drugs and fights and other shit going on.

Just seeing a cop car, getting shook down should be enough.  Cops will get tired of being called and just tell the POS to move it along.  And you can always talk to the cops.  We knew a few of them that always responded, they knew what we were doing, and they made the people move it along.

I'm not saying 33 is gonna clear out a few dozen on his own.  But I'm saying a coordinated neighborhood watch effort with all of those around you will certainly take a bite out of them.  Everyone just keeping their head down, looking the other way is how Hitler moved troops against france.  If a single frenchman had raised a weapon, GER had orders to retreat.  Nobody did a thing.

if there is one dirtbag on my corner, I'm walking up to him and asking what he wants, why he's there, what he's looking for.  Then I'm pointing over to jeff the cops' house on my block, and asking the dirtbag if we should walk over to jeff's house together and see if maybe jeff can give the dude a hand with what he's looking for. 

or whatever, you just play it by ear.  If a dude doesn't belong, his ass has to go.

[Soul Crusher]

police have to respond when called.

Get 5 of your neighbors to call in 40 minute increments, on a diff scheulde every night.  it's not like they're lying - chances are, there's a shitload of drugs and fights and other shit going on.

Just seeing a cop car, getting shook down should be enough.  Cops will get tired of being called and just tell the POS to move it along.  And you can always talk to the cops.  We knew a few of them that always responded, they knew what we were doing, and they made the people move it along.

I'm not saying 33 is gonna clear out a few dozen on his own.  But I'm saying a coordinated neighborhood watch effort with all of those around you will certainly take a bite out of them.  Everyone just keeping their head down, looking the other way is how Hitler moved troops against france.  If a single frenchman had raised a weapon, GER had orders to retreat.  Nobody did a thing.

if there is one dirtbag on my corner, I'm walking up to him and asking what he wants, why he's there, what he's looking for.  Then I'm pointing over to jeff the cops' house on my block, and asking the dirtbag if we should walk over to jeff's house together and see if maybe jeff can give the dude a hand with what he's looking for. 

or whatever, you just play it by ear.  If a dude doesn't belong, his ass has to go.

Most of my neighbors barely speak English.  Whether its indian, portugese, spanish, korean, i am like the last of the mohicans where I live. 

I'm on my own.  one of these mofo's tries to break in, they have WW3 coming their way. 

[kcballer]

Why do you avoid every question directed at you and resort to personal insults? 

Aww sute BF is trying to stand up for his boyfriend.  How sweet.  Hey i've voted for rights for you guys best of luck to you. 

[Fury]

Aww sute BF is trying to stand up for his boyfriend.  How sweet.  Hey i've voted for rights for you guys best of luck to you. 

Thanks for proving my point.

[Soul Crusher]

Aww sute BF is trying to stand up for his boyfriend.  How sweet.  Hey i've voted for rights for you guys best of luck to you. 

BF is not my BF.  

He, like me, wants to hear from you who you think we need to model ourself after since you more than anyone else push the green agenda.  

[Dos Equis]

Re-read, berz...

I don't want to see ID, I don't care who is illegal or who is not.

I care about chasing out criminals.  I would much rather chase off one 'legal' american lawbreaker, than ten quiet illegals who never break the law on my block.  Some are illegal, some are not - I care not.  I only care to chase out scumbags.

You chase out the "law-abiding", more peaceful illegals by having the govt fine employers who hire illegals.

I don't care about IDs.   I don't care about nationality.  I care about having a quiet, peaceful block.  And if every one of you did the same - our streets would be safe, and crime wouldn't be an issue.

Talking out of both sides of your mouth. 

I cannot fathom any world where i'd just sit there and complain about a line of illegals on my street taunting hard working americans.  i'd call in INS, report them for drugs, buy and release dogs, initiate a response that would have their asses outta there. 

 

How would you know they are illegals? 

[240 is Back]

hey, we cleaned up the neighborhood.  Didn't check a single ID.

[Soul Crusher]

hey, we cleaned up the neighborhood.  Didn't check a single ID.

240 - you need to give Mal some glock advice. 

[Dos Equis]

hey, we cleaned up the neighborhood.  Didn't check a single ID.

On what basis did/would you conclude that "a line of illegals on my street [was] taunting hard working americans"?   

[kcballer]

BF is not my BF.  

He, like me, wants to hear from you who you think we need to model ourself after since you more than anyone else push the green agenda.  

Uh it's called being a world leader, we don't need to model ourselves after anyone.  Why should we copy when we can create? 

[Soul Crusher]

Uh it's called being a world leader, we don't need to model ourselves after anyone.  Why should we copy when we can create? 

Leader of what?  The green agenda is a proven failure by example of Spain.  They lost 2.2 jobs for every so called green job created and bankrupted themselves in the process. 

 

[kcballer]

Leader of what?  The green agenda is a proven failure by example of Spain.  They lost 2.2 jobs for every so called green job created and bankrupted themselves in the process. 

 

haha yes that's why all the major economies are investing heavily in green tech. 

But yes USA is Spain and we could never learn anything from Spain could we, we'd have to do it just like they did.  hahaha

[kcballer]

Thanks for proving my point.

Awww i hit a nerve there? hahaha little b*tch boy got outed as 333 BF