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White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« on: July 06, 2010, 06:48:58 PM »
Lobbying a foreign country to pass a pro abortion measure?  And the president said he's trying to de-politicize this issue? 

White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
By Tess Civantos

Published July 06, 2010
FoxNews.com

U.S. Vice President Biden and Kenyan Foreign Affairs Minister Wetangula look on after laying a wreath at the site of the former U.S. Embassy in Nairobi. While in Kenya, Biden expressed support for the proposed new constitution, which Kenya will vote on Aug. 4.

The Obama administration is offering incentives to Kenya to approve a controversial new constitution that would legalize abortion for the first time, promising that passage will "allow money to flow" into the nation's coffers, including U.S. aid.

But there's a hitch to that pledge. A federal law known as the Siljander Amendment passed in 2006 makes it illegal for the U.S. government to lobby on abortion in other countries -- and three U.S. lawmakers say they want a federal investigation into the promises made by the administration.

Kenya has long been ripe for a new constitution, one that will balance power in the country and prevent the kind of violent rioting that followed Kenya's 2007 presidential election.

The Obama administration has vocally expressed enthusiasm for the new constitution, which it says will provide for easier transition of power through more balanced branches of government.

But according to anti-abortion groups in and outside of Kenya, the constitution will cause harm to the nation by overturning its ban on abortion.

Article 26 of the proposed constitution states that abortion is allowed if "in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger or if permitted by any other written law."

The problem for some is how much that provision is left open to interpretation.

"There are parts of this constitution that violate human dignity," Rebecca Marchinda, director of advocacy for the human rights coalition World Youth Alliance, told FoxNews.com.

"A trained health professional could be anyone who has health training, including a student or a physical therapist," Marchinda said. "The provision is also broadly defined to include any kind of health, including psychological health or emotional health. Finally, this clause opens the way to create other laws that make abortion available on demand."

In a speech delivered last month in Kenya, Vice President Joe Biden urged the Kenyan people to pass the constitution in a referendum scheduled for Aug. 4.

"The United States strongly supports the process of constitutional reform. ... Dare to reach for transformative change, the kind of change that might come around only once in a lifetime," he said.

"If you make these changes, I promise you, new foreign private investment will come in like you've never seen," Biden added.

According to reports, U.S. ambassador to Kenya Michael Ranneberger told Kenyan officials in May that the U.S. has offered $2 million in taxpayer funds for "civic education" to support the process of enacting a new constitution.

That's a problem for Republican Reps. Darrell Issa of California, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Chris Smith of New Jersey. In letters to the U.S. Department of State, U.S. Government Accountability Office and U.S. Agency for International Development, the lawmakers said they want a federal probe to determine whether the administration violated federal law with its assistance.

"Any advocacy by the administration in support of the proposed new constitution would constitute lobbying for abortion," reads one letter sent in May. "There is no doubt that the administration is advocating for adoption of the proposed constitution."

Issa's office confirmed that the congressman has not spoken to Biden regarding the request for a federal probe, and they did not say whether they had received a response from the inspectors general.

Funding from the United States, meanwhile, is the least of the Kenyan pro-lifers' worries. They are facing violent and even fatal opposition from constitution supporters within their own nation.

A peaceful anti-constitution protest and prayer service on June 13 turned violent when two bombs exploded, killing six people and injuring over 100 more, according to Kenyan newspaper The Standard.

Not only are constitution opponents being bombed, their leaders are being arrested. Three members of the Kenyan parliament were taken into custody on June 16 on charges of alleged hate speech relating to their prominent leadership in opposing the new constitution.
Three other members of parliament were also accused of hate speech, including Higher Education Minister William Ruto, widely seen as a leader in the campaign against the new constitution.

Obadias Ndaba, who works in the World Youth Alliance branch in Kenya, told FoxNews.com that the government "is trying to do everything it takes to pass the constitution."

"The US VP Biden, while in a visit here, promised that Obama would visit the country only if the constitution is passed," he wrote in an e-mail Friday.

"What is clear is that we are having a powerful elite in government supported by foreign powers against the weak forces of church leaders (plus few politicians under threat of hate speech) with huge support in the population but with less means and security to get their message across," he wrote.

Requests for comment sent to the vice president’s office were not returned.


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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 12:47:15 PM »
White House Spent $23M of Taxpayer Money to Back Kenyan Constitution That Legalizes Abortion, GOP Reps Say
By Tess Civantos
Published July 22, 2010
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May 15, 2010: Kenyan supporters cheer at a rally to launch campaigns for the constitution referendum, in the capital Nairobi.

A Republican lawmaker is accusing the White House of “unconscionable” and “illegal” acts for its role in Kenya's referendum on a new constitution, which would legalize abortion in the country for the first time.

Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey cited a report by the U.S. Agency for International Development, or USAID, that estimated that more than $23 million in U.S. taxpayer funds have been spent on the referendum. Smith and other conservatives have complained that at least some of that money has been spent in support of the proposed constitution, possibly violating U.S. law.

“Under no circumstances should the U.S. government take sides,” Smith said at a news conference Wednesday. “Yet that is precisely what the Obama administration has done.”

The proposed constitution will curtail the vast powers of the Kenyan president, offering more balance among the different branches of government in an effort to bring order and stability to the political process of a nation often torn by tumultuous exchanges of power.

Vice President Biden told the Kenyan people in a recent speech, "Let me repeat, this is your decision, your decision alone. And the people of Kenya must make this choice -- a choice for Kenya by Kenyans."

Smith and other lawmakers have accused the Obama administration of offering incentives to Kenya to approve the controversial new constitution, promising that passage would “allow money to flow” into the nation's coffers. A federal law known as the Siljander Amendment makes it illegal for the U.S. government to lobby on abortion in other countries.

“We were unable to get any information prior to asking for those (USAID) reports,” Smith said. “There’s been no transparency in this process.”

Smith had been joined by Reps. Darrell Issa of California and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida, both Republicans, in requesting the federal investigation into the administration's spending on the referendum.

“U.S. law is being violated with impunity,” Smith told FoxNews.com. “We shouldn’t be pushing for other the ‘yes’ or the ‘no’ camp, but instead, we’re bankrolling the ‘yes’ campaign.”

One group that has received almost $3 million from the U.S. government, Development Alternatives, openly supported “advocating for efforts to eventually legalize abortion in Kenya,” Smith said. Another group, The Committee of Experts on Constitutional Review in Kenya, changed the wording of the Kenyan constitution’s abortion clause to make abortion more widely accessible – and has received over $180,000 from the U.S.

Thanks to these findings, nine of the more than 200 organizations in Kenya that received money from the U.S. have been suspended from receiving assistance, the U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Katya Thomas in Nairobi told the AP Friday.

But the congressmen are asking for more. They want the White House to be held accountable for its role.

“If violations of the law have occurred, which on the face of it they have, the information must be brought before law enforcement,” Smith said. “Not even presidents are above the law.”

The federal probe also found that the Kenyan constitution was not actually written by Kenyans, but by “U.S.-funded NGOs, working in concert with Planned Parenthood,” Smith said.

According to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s website, Planned Parenthood supports the Kenyan groups that wrote the abortion clause – the Kenyan Federation of Women Lawyers and its parent organization the Kenyan Reproductive Health and Rights Alliance.

Planned Parenthood’s website states that it sought “to improve maternal health conditions in Kenya by securing reproductive health laws and policies that promote women's health,” its motivation for becoming involved in the constitutional revision process.

But some Kenyans think that the role of American organizations like Planned Parenthood in drafting the Kenyan constitution compromises Kenyan sovereignty and assaults its cultural heritage.

Theresa Okafor, CEO of Kenya’s Life League, said in a speech that the proposed constitution is “a conspiracy to strip Africa of its cherished values by international organizations like Planned Parenthood and the United Nations.”

“Africans regard every child as a blessing,” Okafor said. “Amidst biting poverty, the birth of a child is celebrated with pomp and pageantry. Children are treasures in Africa.”

Because abortion has never been an issue in Kenya until now, the country lacks an organized anti-abortion movement on the scale seen in the United States. But a number of church groups are mobilizing against the proposed constitution, as are some Kenyans who want to preserve the traditional culture of family values.

In March 2003, a group of young professionals formed the Life League, one of Kenya’s first pro-life organizations. In 2009, the Life League and 20 other Kenyan pro-life and pro-family groups united to form the Foundation for African Cultural Heritage – a heritage that they believe the abortion provision attacks.

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 12:58:22 PM »
Are you surprised?

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 01:19:15 PM »
Kenya is it's own country.  A constitution is necessary for stability and long term well being.  If they have decided abortion will be in there then that is their right as a country.  I have yet to see a shred of evidence showing anyone colluded with their government to put abortion in there.  All it says is they support the constitution they have proposed. 
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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 01:27:40 PM »
Lobbying a foreign country to pass a pro abortion measure?  And the president said he's trying to de-politicize this issue?  

White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
By Tess Civantos

Published July 06, 2010
FoxNews.com

U.S. Vice President Biden and Kenyan Foreign Affairs Minister Wetangula look on after laying a wreath at the site of the former U.S. Embassy in Nairobi. While in Kenya, Biden expressed support for the proposed new constitution, which Kenya will vote on Aug. 4.

The Obama administration is offering incentives to Kenya to approve a controversial new constitution that would legalize abortion for the first time, promising that passage will "allow money to flow" into the nation's coffers, including U.S. aid.

But there's a hitch to that pledge. A federal law known as the Siljander Amendment passed in 2006 makes it illegal for the U.S. government to lobby on abortion in other countries -- and three U.S. lawmakers say they want a federal investigation into the promises made by the administration.

Kenya has long been ripe for a new constitution, one that will balance power in the country and prevent the kind of violent rioting that followed Kenya's 2007 presidential election.

The Obama administration has vocally expressed enthusiasm for the new constitution, which it says will provide for easier transition of power through more balanced branches of government.

But according to anti-abortion groups in and outside of Kenya, the constitution will cause harm to the nation by overturning its ban on abortion.

Article 26 of the proposed constitution states that abortion is allowed if "in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger or if permitted by any other written law."

The problem for some is how much that provision is left open to interpretation.

"There are parts of this constitution that violate human dignity," Rebecca Marchinda, director of advocacy for the human rights coalition World Youth Alliance, told FoxNews.com.

"A trained health professional could be anyone who has health training, including a student or a physical therapist," Marchinda said. "The provision is also broadly defined to include any kind of health, including psychological health or emotional health. Finally, this clause opens the way to create other laws that make abortion available on demand."

In a speech delivered last month in Kenya, Vice President Joe Biden urged the Kenyan people to pass the constitution in a referendum scheduled for Aug. 4.

"The United States strongly supports the process of constitutional reform. ... Dare to reach for transformative change, the kind of change that might come around only once in a lifetime," he said.

"If you make these changes, I promise you, new foreign private investment will come in like you've never seen," Biden added.

According to reports, U.S. ambassador to Kenya Michael Ranneberger told Kenyan officials in May that the U.S. has offered $2 million in taxpayer funds for "civic education" to support the process of enacting a new constitution.

That's a problem for Republican Reps. Darrell Issa of California, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Chris Smith of New Jersey. In letters to the U.S. Department of State, U.S. Government Accountability Office and U.S. Agency for International Development, the lawmakers said they want a federal probe to determine whether the administration violated federal law with its assistance.

"Any advocacy by the administration in support of the proposed new constitution would constitute lobbying for abortion," reads one letter sent in May. "There is no doubt that the administration is advocating for adoption of the proposed constitution."

Issa's office confirmed that the congressman has not spoken to Biden regarding the request for a federal probe, and they did not say whether they had received a response from the inspectors general.

Funding from the United States, meanwhile, is the least of the Kenyan pro-lifers' worries. They are facing violent and even fatal opposition from constitution supporters within their own nation.

A peaceful anti-constitution protest and prayer service on June 13 turned violent when two bombs exploded, killing six people and injuring over 100 more, according to Kenyan newspaper The Standard.

Not only are constitution opponents being bombed, their leaders are being arrested. Three members of the Kenyan parliament were taken into custody on June 16 on charges of alleged hate speech relating to their prominent leadership in opposing the new constitution.
Three other members of parliament were also accused of hate speech, including Higher Education Minister William Ruto, widely seen as a leader in the campaign against the new constitution.

Obadias Ndaba, who works in the World Youth Alliance branch in Kenya, told FoxNews.com that the government "is trying to do everything it takes to pass the constitution."

"The US VP Biden, while in a visit here, promised that Obama would visit the country only if the constitution is passed," he wrote in an e-mail Friday.

"What is clear is that we are having a powerful elite in government supported by foreign powers against the weak forces of church leaders (plus few politicians under threat of hate speech) with huge support in the population but with less means and security to get their message across," he wrote.

Requests for comment sent to the vice president’s office were not returned.


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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2010, 01:31:40 PM »
The great thing about this current admin has been the change in attitude towards other countries.  We no longer have our Christian principals being forced down others throats.  We allow countries to make their own constitution and if that involves abortion then so be it.  All these 'sources' are as reliable as a 333 post on Sherrod.
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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 01:41:14 PM »
Being concerned about US money going to a foreign nation is understandable and in these times the US should be very restrictive on the spending. Objecting the law or constitution of a foreign nation though because of "morality"?
I don't care if the Kenyan Constitution allows abortion or not, it is for the Kenyans to decide. But I do care about (our) money the US is giving to any foreign nation when there are so many domestic issues that have arisen from overspending and/or lack of funds.

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 01:43:02 PM »
The great thing about this current admin has been the change in attitude towards other countries.  We no longer have our Christian principals being forced down others throats.  We allow countries to make their own constitution and if that involves abortion then so be it.  All these 'sources' are as reliable as a 333 post on Sherrod.

She still is a socialist race hustler shaking down taxpayers for millions of dollars.  Don't kid yourself, she is van jones without a package.    

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 01:47:14 PM »
We should be very concerned about where and how our money is being spent, particularly when our money is being spent in other countries. 

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 02:07:59 PM »
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"Globe Magazine: Obama African Birth Certificate! Barack Obama's presidency is illegal!




Not sure why Globe is just now running this story. The Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth that is now running on the front page of Globe appears to be the one Attorney Orly Taitz released last year. It is important to note that when Atty Taitz first posted that online the Obot's quickly photoshopped one of their own with false info to put disinformation out that it was fake. It must also be noted that no Court or any Legal Body deemed that document or the Lucas Smith document real or fake.

Posted below the Globe snippet is the purported 'Coast Province Certified Copy of Registration of Birth' for Barack Obama which was obtained by Attorney Taitz. Below that is the purported Kenyan Certificate of Birth obtained by Lucas Smith.


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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 03:15:18 PM »
Kenya is it's own country.  A constitution is necessary for stability and long term well being.  If they have decided abortion will be in there then that is their right as a country.  I have yet to see a shred of evidence showing anyone colluded with their government to put abortion in there.  All it says is they support the constitution they have proposed. 



Despite the article's slant, that's not what's really being alledged.  The issue is if Rannenberger and the administration are in violation of American law by voicing official U.S. support and letting USAID give funds for groups who supported the abortion issue in the process of helping the Kenyans.

While I'm as pro-choice as they come, we do have to respect our own laws and, to my knowledge, Siljander has not been held unconstitutional.

Wouldn't have a problem with Siljander being repealed, but until then, we should respect the law.




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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 03:23:50 PM »
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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 03:35:17 PM »
The great thing about this current admin has been the change in attitude towards other countries.  We no longer have our Christian principals being forced down others throats.  We allow countries to make their own constitution and if that involves abortion then so be it.  All these 'sources' are as reliable as a 333 post on Sherrod.

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 03:37:18 PM »
is "THE GLOBE" a credible news source, 33?

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 03:41:27 PM »
is "THE GLOBE" a credible news source, 33?

No, i just thought I would throw it out there since the words Obama and keyna were in the same sentence. 

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 03:56:31 PM »
That's THE smartest post of the day..hell,week.


What country did Bush force Christian principles on that Obama put a stop to?

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2010, 08:10:12 PM »
is "THE GLOBE" a credible news source, 33?
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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2010, 04:22:56 AM »
I'm against all foreign aid except bombs. That being said it's pretty telling that Conservatives are complaining about abortion in a African country (when it would advance women's rights) and ignoring all the other bad crap countries do that receive aide like female circumcision, settlement building, hiding the Taliban, etc...

It's asinine that one change in Kenya's constitution would make them feel better when this country is literally spending itself to death.

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2010, 12:39:46 PM »

What country did Bush force Christian principles on that Obama put a stop to?

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2010, 01:36:25 PM »

What country did Bush force Christian principles on that Obama put a stop to?

We all know the Bush admin put good chunks of foreign aide into faith based programs and organizations even when the methods used were proven to not work.
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2010, 01:41:37 PM »
We all know the Bush admin put good chunks of foreign aide into faith based programs and organizations even when the methods used were proven to not work.

That doesn't answer the question. 

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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2010, 01:45:20 PM »
That doesn't answer the question. 

Yeah it does.  By placing an emphasis on christian based NGO's we are in effect sending out missionaries to third world countries to preach christian doctrine. 
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2010, 01:53:17 PM »
Yeah it does.  By placing an emphasis on christian based NGO's we are in effect sending out missionaries to third world countries to preach christian doctrine. 

You made the following comment:

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The great thing about this current admin has been the change in attitude towards other countries.  We no longer have our Christian principals being forced down others throats. 

What specific "Christian principals" (I think you mean "principles") and what specific countries are you talking about (that Obama stopped)?  That was Skip's question. 

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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2010, 02:05:40 PM »
Off the top of my head 'abstinence' programs in HIV and AIDS ravaged countries led by the Bush government who said a % of all money must go to them.  They may seem like a great idea with Christians, until you realize they don't work because humans don't abstain from sex very well and need condoms, education and anti-retrovirals instead.

Look into all the aide we give to countries, during Bush massive amounts went to faith based NGO's.   
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Re: White House Backs Kenyan Constitution Allowing Abortion
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2010, 02:10:36 PM »
Off the top of my head 'abstinence' programs in HIV and AIDS ravaged countries led by the Bush government who said a % of all money must go to them.  They may seem like a great idea with Christians, until you realize they don't work because humans don't abstain from sex very well and need condoms, education and anti-retrovirals instead.

Look into all the aide we give to countries, during Bush massive amounts went to faith based NGO's.  

I'm not sure what "abstinence programs" you're talking about, but which ones did Obama stop?  

I'm not looking into or asking about "all the aide we give to countries," I'm asking about the "Christian principals being forced down others throats" by Bush that were stopped by Obama, according to you.