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Aren't those places willfully violating federal immigration law?

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 09:06:45 PM »
same reason Rudy, Palin, Romeny allowed them. 

They don't have the courage that Brewer has.

Neither the fed nor state level has been willing to do it for fear of losing hispanic votes.



(LOL at republicans upset the fed govt isn't getting more involved in state affairs hehe)

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 09:14:05 PM »
(LOL at republicans upset the fed govt isn't getting more involved in state affairs hehe)
its not a state affair...you see they had to cross the national boundry to get there making it a national affair...

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 06:03:33 AM »
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."--

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 06:05:28 AM »
Brilliant, but I'm pretty sure that someone else used that quote to describe another prez or politician and then interjected Obama's name.

Also-

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2010, 06:27:20 AM »
Why isn't Obama's administration suing sanctuary cities?
By: Peyton R. Miller
Weekly Standard
06/23/10 12:21 PM EDT

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The Justice Department is preparing a lawsuit against Arizona’s controversial immigration law, likely to be filed next week. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told a South American interviewer last week that the Obama administration opposes the law because “the federal government should be determining immigration policy.” The idea that the administration seeks to uphold federal sovereignty in matters pertaining to immigration is hard to swallow.

U.S. law prohibits public universities from providing in-state tuition rates for illegal immigrant students, yet ten states currently allow undocumented students to pay in-state tuition.  Numerous “sanctuary cities”deliberately subvert federal immigration policy by preventing local law enforcement and other officials from inquiring as to the immigration status of residents.  Some have gone even further by providing undocumented immigrants with local forms of identification.

President Obama immediately voiced opposition to the Arizona law, which enforces federal law at the state level, but has made no rhetorical or legal challenge to state laws that work against federal immigration policy. Such pro-illegal immigrant practices existed well before January 2009, but Obama did not campaign on the need to abolish them for the sake of restoring immigration policy to the federal domain.  In fact, when asked in a presidential debate whether he would “allow [sanctuary] cities to ignore the federal law regarding the reporting of illegal immigrants,” he refused to condemn sanctuary cities, commenting only briefly on the need for “comprehensive immigration reform.”

The notion that immigration policy should be handled at the federal level is a legitimate one, but it is difficult for the Obama administration to oppose Arizona’s law on these grounds since it has not lifted a finger in opposition to state-level policies that favor illegal immigrants. A different agenda is at work here.

Peyton R. Miller is the editor of the Harvard Salient and a Student Free Press Association Intern at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 12:20:43 PM »
Why isn't Obama's administration suing sanctuary cities?
By: Peyton R. Miller
Weekly Standard
06/23/10 12:21 PM EDT

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The Justice Department is preparing a lawsuit against Arizona’s controversial immigration law, likely to be filed next week. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told a South American interviewer last week that the Obama administration opposes the law because “the federal government should be determining immigration policy.” The idea that the administration seeks to uphold federal sovereignty in matters pertaining to immigration is hard to swallow.

U.S. law prohibits public universities from providing in-state tuition rates for illegal immigrant students, yet ten states currently allow undocumented students to pay in-state tuition.  Numerous “sanctuary cities”deliberately subvert federal immigration policy by preventing local law enforcement and other officials from inquiring as to the immigration status of residents.  Some have gone even further by providing undocumented immigrants with local forms of identification.

President Obama immediately voiced opposition to the Arizona law, which enforces federal law at the state level, but has made no rhetorical or legal challenge to state laws that work against federal immigration policy. Such pro-illegal immigrant practices existed well before January 2009, but Obama did not campaign on the need to abolish them for the sake of restoring immigration policy to the federal domain.  In fact, when asked in a presidential debate whether he would “allow [sanctuary] cities to ignore the federal law regarding the reporting of illegal immigrants,” he refused to condemn sanctuary cities, commenting only briefly on the need for “comprehensive immigration reform.”

The notion that immigration policy should be handled at the federal level is a legitimate one, but it is difficult for the Obama administration to oppose Arizona’s law on these grounds since it has not lifted a finger in opposition to state-level policies that favor illegal immigrants. A different agenda is at work here.

Peyton R. Miller is the editor of the Harvard Salient and a Student Free Press Association Intern at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.


Exactly.

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2010, 03:24:19 PM »
Yeah I posted this in another thread as it was brought up by the AZ gov.

Crickets from the left...

I'm shocked!

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2010, 03:38:31 PM »
he wants their vote in 2010 and 2012?  duh...

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2010, 03:49:57 PM »
he wants their vote in 2010 and 2012?  duh...


Really?  Then why is he going against the majority of the country?


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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2010, 03:52:45 PM »

Really?  Then why is he going against the majority of the country?



He did the same thing with healthcare. 

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2010, 03:54:31 PM »
He did the same thing with healthcare. 


And terror trials in NYC, Cap & Trade, etc. 

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 04:00:49 PM »
i'd like to see surveys done in blue vs red states.

I mean, AZ never went Obama's way anyway, and surely they sway a *little* more supportive of this bill than say, New York?

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2010, 04:22:52 PM »
i'd like to see surveys done in blue vs red states.

I mean, AZ never went Obama's way anyway, and surely they sway a *little* more supportive of this bill than say, New York?



Those are both national polls, one by Pew, one by CBS, they are not AZ polls.  The CBS is +/- 3%, but when you factor in the "Doesn't go far enough" crowd, Barry is still going well against the majority of the nation.

I can't see him doing this for votes.

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 05:28:59 AM »


Those are both national polls, one by Pew, one by CBS, they are not AZ polls.  The CBS is +/- 3%, but when you factor in the "Doesn't go far enough" crowd, Barry is still going well against the majority of the nation.

I can't see him doing this for votes.

He is doing it for Hisp[anic votes in districts where their vote can put a marginal person over the top. 

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 09:05:27 AM »
Probably cause they're a good idea.  Besides Obama has deported more illegals than previous admins so it would seem to me he's doing a better job and deportation than in the past. 
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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 09:08:20 AM »

Really?  Then why is he going against the majority of the country?



;D

That's a lot of racist people.  ::)

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 09:11:14 AM »
;D

That's a lot of racist people.  ::)

I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally. 

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2010, 09:44:20 AM »
Probably cause they're a good idea.  Besides Obama has deported more illegals than previous admins so it would seem to me he's doing a better job and deportation than in the past. 

link? 

wow, if he deported more illegals than Bush, that's HUGE news.

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 09:59:19 AM »
link? 

wow, if he deported more illegals than Bush, that's HUGE news.

Why?  Bush loved illegals and pandered to them daily?  Who ever defended Bush on illegals? 

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 10:00:03 AM »
Like i said in the thread yesterday where this was posted.  It'll be attributed to Bush cause it's a positive however, if it were the other way around it'd be blame game for Obama.
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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 10:01:25 AM »
Like i said in the thread yesterday where this was posted.  It'll be attributed to Bush cause it's a positive however, if it were the other way around it'd be blame game for Obama.

Bushs' biggest failure was the border and illegals. 


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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 10:12:38 AM »
Bushs' biggest failure was the border and illegals. 

borrowing trillions?
letting NK build nukes?
failing to stop iran?
falling for WMD when the UN didn't find squat?
ignoring cruicial 911 warnings then fighting an investigation?

I'd say the border was 7th or 8th on his failure list.

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Re: Why isn't the Obama Administration pursuing "sanctuary cities"?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 10:17:02 AM »
borrowing trillions?
letting NK build nukes?
failing to stop iran?
falling for WMD when the UN didn't find squat?
ignoring cruicial 911 warnings then fighting an investigation?

I'd say the border was 7th or 8th on his failure list.

I disagree.  Are you now saying you wanted him to bomb Iran and NK now?