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Lesnar or Cain
« on: July 09, 2010, 12:03:22 PM »


This is a hard one!  Both have great wrestling.  Both have cardio.  Cain has much better stand up.  Brock has the size advantage.  Interesting...
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 12:07:12 PM »
Another great and interesting match-up.

After Carwin, I will never doubt Lesnar again.  The guy is a beast, and most likely would keep fighting if you tore his legs off.

If I were a betting man, I would go with Lesnar by GNP TKO.

But I will still be rooting for Cain. ;D
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2010, 12:46:56 PM »
I think this fight has the potential to end in decision with Cain outscoring Lesnar...
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 01:03:53 PM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 09, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
I think this fight has the potential to end in decision with Cain outscoring Lesnar...

I could see that, but what do you think will happen when Lesnar takes it to the ground?

Cain has outstanding wrestling and ground game, but I just can't overlook the size/strength difference.

I just don't see Cain defending a takedown from Lesnar very well.

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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2010, 01:31:55 PM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on July 09, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
I could see that, but what do you think will happen when Lesnar takes it to the ground?

Cain has outstanding wrestling and ground game, but I just can't overlook the size/strength difference.

I just don't see Cain defending a takedown from Lesnar very well.



I'm with you on that.  It's hard to imagine Cain stuffing the takedown, but I keep hearing about how Cain's wrestling is on par with Lesnars and how he is used to dealing with bigger guys.  It'll be interesting.  If Lesnar gets the take down, Cain is screwed. 
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2010, 02:05:13 PM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on July 09, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
I could see that, but what do you think will happen when Lesnar takes it to the ground?

Cain has outstanding wrestling and ground game, but I just can't overlook the size/strength difference.

I just don't see Cain defending a takedown from Lesnar very well.



I agree.

I really didn't like Lesnar much until this Carwin fight, he showed he has heart and is a tough SOB. Plus the post fight interview really impressed me and showed that he really is a good honest guy who admits his mistakes.

I think Lesnar will pull off another win very similar to the Carwin fight.

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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2010, 02:06:10 PM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 09, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
I'm with you on that.  It's hard to imagine Cain stuffing the takedown, but I keep hearing about how Cain's wrestling is on par with Lesnars and how he is used to dealing with bigger guys.  It'll be interesting.  If Lesnar gets the take down, Cain is screwed. 

I would even like to think that Cain could catch Brock like he did Nog, but even if he gets a clean shot, I am not so sure if it would take Brock out.

One thing about Cain is that he has shown relentless cardio and he can keep a good pace.  

Things are real good right now in the UFC HW div.


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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 02:11:52 PM »
Quote from: Overload on July 09, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
I agree.

I really didn't like Lesnar much until this Carwin fight, he showed he has heart and is a tough SOB. Plus the post fight interview really impressed me and showed that he really is a good honest guy who admits his mistakes.

I think Lesnar will pull off another win very similar to the Carwin fight.

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I agree. Many people have stated that the "Athlete Brock" is much different than "Normal Brock". I now believe it.
He is more than a great Athlete as I previously thought, to take a beating like that and stand right back up in the same round, is almost inhuman.

He won me over, but I also like Cain. He has worked hard for his shot. May the best man win. ;D


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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 02:58:49 PM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on July 09, 2010, 02:11:52 PM
I agree. Many people have stated that the "Athlete Brock" is much different than "Normal Brock". I now believe it.
He is more than a great Athlete as I previously thought, to take a beating like that and stand right back up in the same round, is almost inhuman.

He won me over, but I also like Cain. He has worked hard for his shot. May the best man win. ;D




Agree on all points, i'd like to see a slugfest between these two and the best man win.


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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 03:53:39 PM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 09, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
I think this fight has the potential to end in decision with Cain outscoring Lesnar...
LMAO!!! ;D
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 05:28:15 PM »
I think Brock will win this one too.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 05:30:03 PM »
People will learn from the Carwin fight and stay outside, Cain wont gas and will last more than 3 mins.

Still though I would take Brock.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2010, 05:31:51 PM »
I was amazed when Brock stood up for round two in the Carwin fight and smiled at him.
that must have been pretty disheartening
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 06:02:28 PM »
Quote from: ATHEIST on July 09, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
I was amazed when Brock stood up for round two in the Carwin fight and smiled at him.
that must have been pretty disheartening
Not as disheartening as when Brock stood up before the first round was over, that had to crush Shane mentally.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2010, 09:25:30 PM »
Hard to call this one..I think Lesnar might edge out a victory...however against Junior Dos Santos there will be no victory..

would love to see Lesnar / Overreem
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 12:22:55 AM »
Now that Brock has had a whopping six professional fights, everyone knows he is now invincible. I say he will slaughter Cain and go on to be 35-1 (winning thirty straight) before retiring.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 12:40:42 AM »
JDS will beat them both..
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 02:23:46 AM »
i am hoping lesnar will pull it off
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 05:29:06 AM »
Quote from: chaos on July 09, 2010, 06:02:28 PM
Not as disheartening as when Brock stood up before the first round was over, that had to crush Shane mentally.

I could imagine being 280 pounds, hitting a guy with ALL you got for almost 4 min connecting thinking hes out etc etc

and baam, he stands up and almost takes your ass down.

Wtf is a man supposed to do then?
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 07:45:34 AM »
I agree with Benny. Lesnar should hold the title belts of every weight class in the UFC and then systematically fight every champion one by one. That's the only way to make these fights fair. Lesnar is the greatest MMA fighter ever.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 09:45:57 AM »
this is who we really want to see fight brock


brock would have big trouble takin him down and no chance stand up
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 11:42:10 PM »
Quote from: smoothasf on July 13, 2010, 09:45:57 AM
this is who we really want to see fight brock


brock would have big trouble takin him down and no chance stand up

Brock would get assassinated if he ever got in the cage with Overreem, Alistair manhandled Brett Rogers (who knocked out brock in sparring numeours times) like a bitch.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2010, 06:35:26 AM »
Please post your source showing that Rodgers KO'd Lesnar.
Overeem has a slight chance against Brock, but even with all the drugs, he is still much smaller.

Like Mindspin has stated before, Brock naturally carries the muscle he has. Many of these other guys have to work and lift specially just to carry it.

Big difference in cardio when you do this.

Bottom line, Overeem really has a small chance of beating Brock.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2010, 09:28:14 AM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on July 09, 2010, 12:07:12 PM
The guy is a beast, and most likely would keep fighting if you tore his legs off.

He tapped to Mir's knee bar pretty damn fast.  Even before Mir tore his leg off.
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Re: Lesnar or Cain
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2010, 09:59:33 AM »
Quote from: SgtSpar on July 15, 2010, 09:28:14 AM
He tapped to Mir's knee bar pretty damn fast.  Even before Mir tore his leg off.



Amazing how much he has evolved since. He would never tap today.

Thanks for sharing and reminding us.
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