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this thread is inspired by this quote in the layne norton thread

Layne has made good gains.

Smart guy that he is,he diets for very long periods before a contest.............20-30 weeks.

Good move,most people fold at 12-16 weeks.

Now, I know I've already made the point but I feel that this needs to be discussed further


okay, let me get this straight- he diets hard for 20-30 weeks which means he, probably, doesn't go out at night or parties with crazy sluts and doesn't have wild sex for like 5-7 months



so, explain to me how this is a "good move" again?  Roll Eyes


seriously, you have to be a huge dipshit to be a natural bodybuilder

what's the point of doing all the hard work when you can't go out and fuck some crazy hoes?
can someone explain this to me?
is that trophy and the 100 bucks you, might, get as a prize really worth the 6 months of dieting and not getting wild pussy at clubs?

again, I think i'm making a good point here.  And I should know- i'm a pretty smart guy....seriously, i'm the smartest guy i know

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 03:58:42 PM »
trying to be a mass monster is pointless because it requires constant eating and you end up fat and unhealthy

naturals should train for overall fitness and stay lean

bodybuilding is supposed to be part of a healthy lifestyle, both physically and emotionally - the opposite of what it has become


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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 04:01:34 PM »



what's the point of doing all the hard work when you can't go out and fuck some crazy hoes?
can someone explain this to me?

You can do both JNN  .

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 05:23:35 PM »
Layne`s a married man.........the fun is over for him!

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 05:34:12 PM »
Layne`s a married man.........the fun is over for him!

LOL! Wes, always bringing the wisdom.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 05:38:05 PM »
this thread is inspired by this quote in the layne norton thread

Now, I know I've already made the point but I feel that this needs to be discussed further


okay, let me get this straight- he diets hard for 20-30 weeks which means he, probably, doesn't go out at night or parties with crazy sluts and doesn't have wild sex for like 5-7 months



so, explain to me how this is a "good move" again?  Roll Eyes


seriously, you have to be a huge dipshit to be a natural bodybuilder

what's the point of doing all the hard work when you can't go out and fuck some crazy hoes?
can someone explain this to me?
is that trophy and the 100 bucks you, might, get as a prize really worth the 6 months of dieting and not getting wild pussy at clubs?

again, I think i'm making a good point here.  And I should know- i'm a pretty smart guy....seriously, i'm the smartest guy i know


but you'd sell your booty to a man for a buck.  ::)



nice front.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 05:42:57 PM »
but you'd sell your booty to a man for a buck.  ::)



nice front.

LOL! Try two hundred bucks. And I got the GetBig discount.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 06:18:04 PM »
LOL! Try two hundred bucks. And I got the GetBig discount.

Oh shit! I thought I was on my gimmick account, jtsalami.

Well, I guess it's time to kill myself. I always knew things would not end well for me.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 06:22:11 PM »
Being a natural bodybuilder these day is being a NFL player back in the 1950's and trying to hang with the pros in the game today.  It's just not possible.  I'd be a "fitness model" before I ever tried to be a natural bodybuilder.  Most natural bodybuilders are lying sacks of shit anyways......including Layne.  He may not have done real steroids but he's used everything else under the sun including fat burners and prohormones.  He's not natural by any definition.  He's in it to make money and make a name for himself.  Nothing wrong with that.  But he's not some groundbreaking natural bodybuilder.  He works hard, supplements, and has a good build.  So what?  I would never buy his supplements, his books, go to his seminars or really listen to anything the guy says.  Plus he's plagued with injuries all the time.  He'll be burned out by the time he's 30 if he keeps lifting like he does. 

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 07:15:04 PM »
You'd have to be mentally deficient to try and be a natural bodybuilder, working your ass off for 5 years straight, eating clean, dieting, not eating shit you want to eat like pizza and mcdonald's, then some 19 year old kid joins your gym, starts working out, goes on a cycle and after 2 months is looking like you wish you did...LOL

all that will be left is tears in your eyes as you sip Get HUGE formula from your bodybuilding.com shaker cup..

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 07:20:34 PM »
You'd have to be mentally deficient to try and be a natural bodybuilder, working your ass off for 5 years straight, eating clean, dieting, not eating shit you want to eat like pizza and mcdonald's, then some 19 year old kid joins your gym, starts working out, goes on a cycle and after 2 months is looking like you wish you did...LOL

all that will be left is tears in your eyes as you sip Get HUGE formula from your bodybuilding.com shaker cup..



 :'( :'(

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 07:34:50 PM »
Bodybuilding is a narcissistic hobby and lifestyle. ...I know rocket science. Seriously, I've known a decent amount of guys over the years that were on the same level as the Situation from Jersey Shore. They would train hard and look swole...but only for the admiration of others. Health was the last thing on their agenda.

I've slowly come to realize as of the past 2 years...after trying to lift and eat big since 15 (I'm 25 now) it's all b.s. and takes a toll on your body. Do some research and find the multiple studies that are out there that you'll tack on a few more quality years to your life if you stay pretty close to your ideal body weight. All the added stress of excess fat and/or muscle on your frame really wreaks havoc on your system over the years.

That is why I think the best health/fitness decision I've made this past year was to join a local LA Boxing. In the 1 hour ...about 4 times a week I get a better work out than going to lift weights everyday. One of the best cardio workouts that has real benefits and you see the results in like 2 weeks. You feel better, quicker ...knowing you're in excellent shape. I still do weights about 2 times a week...but I laugh inside at all the people who are grunting and squinting doing the stack of tricep extensions with the rope like it's some sort of feat. Try instead burpees, bear walks, crab walks ...etc and see who lasts longer.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2010, 07:37:11 PM »
You can do both JNN  .

i know you did but some of the "natural" guy who compete at my gym are legit retards

these guys are weird.  Get this- they don't even take protein powder (I swear to God) because they are afraid that it will mess with their "natural status"

i wish i had made that up but it's true

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 07:43:52 PM »
He's gets to get up there and leave those 20-30 weeks all up on stage. Go up there and pose his ass off. It's hard work bro. Only the most dedicated are hardcore enough for it. Obviously you can't make the cut bro. lol

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2010, 07:46:03 PM »
He's gets to get up there and leave those 20-30 weeks all up on stage. Go up there and pose his ass off. It's hard work bro. Only the most dedicated are hardcore enough for it. Obviously you can't make the cut bro. lol

exactly

I'm just a schmuck who likes to go out on Saturday nights and have random 18 year old girls sit on my face- what do i know  ;D








btw, please be more creative than replacing the word "girls" with "boys" when you comic geniuses edit and quote the above statement

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2010, 07:48:01 PM »
More like - bodybuilding is it worth it?

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2010, 07:56:30 PM »
More like - bodybuilding is it worth it?
Yeah, but not the hardcore idiotic type of shit most act out when they know nothing.  I think bodybuilding should be consistent but not ridiculously. It also builds the ego too much in the beginning. Ego is a terrible thing for most people. They can't control it and they make bodybuilders look bad. The guy who have to show their guns in tight shirts... It goes on but we all know the typical asshole. Of course bodybuilding is worth it.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2010, 08:34:54 PM »
The guy who have to show their guns in tight shirts...

They don't represent the entire faction, though. And that phenomenon isn't restricted to bodybuilding alone - you'll find tons of newbs / beginners / amateurs in any sport or activity doing similar stuff, like the punks who wear Tap out to show off their interest / "expertise" in MMA (or UFC or whatever it is) and shadowbox in the gym, the people who buy a whole range of needless accessories even before they start taking golfing lessons and so on. Those are the bad apples, giving the whole bunch a bad name / image.

As far as JNN's question goes, I'd say it depends on what the person wants - if someone gets some kind of satisfaction and fulfilment out of lifting and competing naturally (however you define 'natural', which is another topic altogether), no matter how crappy they look onstage, then so be it - at least they are not out there committing crimes or worse. If it makes them give up girls and what not, so what? Most people go through dry spells (including JNN himself, by his own admission), so they may as well do it for a reason that they think is noble or cool. As much fun as girls are, I wouldn't tailor my lifestyle and do or not do things depending solely on whether it will help me score or not.

I personally think it's a waste of time to compete naturally (no steroids, PH or hormones), esp. when you go up against people who juice, but if someone does it, it's no skin off my nose. People do severely underestimate the amount of muscle you can put on naturally - you'll never look anywhere close to a pro, but you can still look jacked enough to set you apart from 99.99% of the population. The problem is, it takes years and years of solid effort, with all the required accessories (diet, game plan, focus etc) on top of that elusive factor which is genetics, that a lot of guys give up after a few months and start juicing, believing that what they built in those few months or years is about as much as they can attain naturally. But as with juicing, naturals go through plateaus that can be broken through - it just takes a lot of time and effort, which most people don't want to invest.

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2010, 09:23:21 PM »
naturals should be able to do at least 7 good chin-ups

otherwise you`re probably too fat

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2010, 09:41:19 PM »

Natural competitive bodybuilder here...

My pre-contest diets in the past have ranged anywhere from 25 to 13 weeks out.


I've sworn that from now on I would never do more than 16 weeks (unless doing multiple shows).


Johnny, its a bitch, no its a bitch bitch... especially back when I was in undergrad and I was all into the club scene, 16 weeks was like a whole fucking semester gone by without partying. 

There were a few times I was still clubbing even during pre-contest lol, not a lot but I still did it.  I never drink (not even in the off-season, just never got into it) so that wasn't a factor, but staying out till like 5 am with friends that wore you down hahaha


Its worth it for sure, especially if you dial it in right - you feel such a great satisfaction once you get there, but its damn hard!

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2010, 09:48:01 PM »
I think it's worth it. I don't think anyone should question another man's motives? If that's what he feels like his calling is, then that's what he does. I only have a problem with bodybuilding when it starts to interfere with someones life. Other than that, yeah, its probably worth it to him. JNN, not everyone is as sexualized as you, strips for a living and gets all this ass. People have other endeavors besides getting laid every single day. If that endeavor is bodybuilding, so be it. I have given up a HUGE chunk of my life for the program I am in. I don't go out like I used to because I am pretty occupied with my program. Sure, I can quit school, and get laid every day like you might suggest, but seriously, where would that leave me?  :-X
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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2010, 09:52:11 PM »
Is this the only getbig thread in existance?..
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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 02:15:26 AM »
Sure, I can quit school, and get laid every day like you might suggest, but seriously, where would that leave me?  :-X

you'd be me

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2010, 02:36:59 AM »
I think natural bodybuilding is about maintaining a healthy lifestyle and looking good naked.  Competitive natural bodybuilding is a complete waste of time. 

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Re: natural bodybuilding- seriously, is it worth it?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2010, 03:15:15 AM »
I think natural bodybuilding is about maintaining a healthy lifestyle and looking good naked.  Competitive natural bodybuilding is a complete waste of time. 

QFT.

I've been struggling with this notion myself recently. I'll never compete - simply because I don't find the idea of getting up onstage in oil and posing trunks very appealing. But at the same time, I love bodybuilding and lifting weights. Always have done - I simply love working out in a gym. But I stopped using drugs well over a year ago and have no intention ever to go back on them - they fuck up your life and turn you into a different person. You need drugs to compete successfully at the highest levels so for me that's a no-brainer - it ain't gonna happen..

I don't know how much longer I'll be bodybuilding for - if you've watched Bigger, Stronger, Faster you'll remember the old guy training at Golds Gym well into his fifties living out of a camper van and still thinking he was gonna make it. I don't want to be that guy.

Even though I love training I'm not sure how much longer I can do this naturally for either though - there are already guys in my gym in their mid forties who are still going on about competing when they've never entered a contest in their lives and you know they'll never do it. It's depressing and I'm 33 now (been training for 19 years) and I hope to god I'm not "talking the talk" to younger guys in ten years time. There's more to life than that.

Bodybuilding should just be about building and maintaining the muscle that you can build naturally but it's also about getting off your ass and doing cardio too because without your health, you're nothing. I don't know how these pros do it but I know for sure, I ain't ever gonna be one of them, simply because I'm not made that way.

Also, everyone on here argues about whether bodybuilding is a sport or not, but one thing's for certain - it is a fucking disease. Once you're sucked in, the biggest battle is not how to build muscle, it's how to get out and go and live your life in other areas. Things have to be balanced.

Anyway, meltdown over.