comment on advice given as "best hair loss cycle"?

[theworm]

just thought this was interesting...

PS. do not say i am paranoid, i am doing a test only cycle right now!   just wanted to know others opinions on recent advice i was given by Mike Arnold over at MD...
seems to make sence for me, but seeing what other thought.  here is what he recommended:

If you want minimize hair loss, but stand a much better chance of maintaining sexual function (as the following amount of Test probably won't hurt your hair line anyway), I would do this...........

Weeks 1-10: Test at 100 mg/week.
Weeks 1-9: Deca at  400 mg/week.
Weeks 5-10: Anavar at 40 mg/day.


The Test is kept low to minimize hair loss, but hopefully keep sexual functioning normal. After your own T production shuts down, 100 mg/week will be almost like using no test at all.

what are your opinions about such advice?   seems very logical.

[lesaucer]

could add Tbol to hair line friendly list too. and what i saw somewhere is that we produce naturally 3 to 7 mg of test per day so thats 50mg maximum per week, 100mg is double this amount lol.. but i dont think it would be too bad for the hairline

[theworm]

i read that 125mg of injected test replaced natural levels...

[R.A.M.]

I wouldn't use that combo. Test Deca ratio is 1:4. Also 9 weeks of deca is kinda short. Need at least 16 weeks.  That's just me though. If u use deca use Npp.

[tstmaniac]

Whenever i take deca i lose hair...but my hair doesnt really fall out with anything else

[jerseymuscles113]

deca thinned my hair out Like crazy! i'll be running some finasteride with my next cycle For sure....if that Doesn't work then Fuck It time to shave It All off

[Overload]

Worm!

How many years have we been telling you there is no such thing as a "hair loss friendly" cycle!

Just don't use AAS brother, that is the only chance and even then it's genetics. My brother is bald as hell and has never taken AAS or even touched a weight in his life, i have injected more AAS than most people on this board and i have a full head of hair with a small recede. GENETICS!!!!

Deca made my hair fall out like crazy, but even after my hair falling out for 7 years you can barely even tell.

I'm telling you brother, just run a low dose of test and let nature take it's course.

It's not the compounds dude, it's the extraneous amounts of test in your body that speed up the process, and ALL compounds convert to TEST!!!

[theworm]

thanks for the compliments..

i am running test right now... 500mg and loving it.   I am only thinning a little in the front (maybe only like 5%)...  but was looking to preserve it as long as possible.

its crazy with the responses.  most experts say that deca does not cause hair loss.  most of the studies show that there is zero conversion to DHT, and DHT causes the hair loss.

how do you all know i was the deca?  were u running it solo?  if not, maybe it was the test or whatever u added to it...


all things being equal...  i still think a deca/anavar cycle with a little test thrown in is probably the safest (less risky) combo.

[Overload]

Most experts are not experts, they are just internet guru's.

Speak to an Endo about it if you want real information.

Genetics cause hair loss, DHT just speeds up the process.

I know how you feel worm, but i think 500mg test only is what you are looking for, so stick with it for a while.

I was running 750mg of Sust for months, then i added 400mg of Deca and within a few weeks my hair was everywhere in the shower/sink and stuck to the comb after combing my hair. I dropped the deca a few months later and the hair loss was almost nonexistent. I'm no expert, just trying to help you out my friend.

Take care,

[theworm]

thanks...

would u suggest adding low dose finasteride?

if so, would letro combat the gyno effects (from both the test and the finasteride)?   then stop the finasteride after the cycle is over?

[Overload]

thanks...

would u suggest adding low dose finasteride?

if so, would letro combat the gyno effects (from both the test and the finasteride)?   then stop the finasteride after the cycle is over?

I'm not a fan of either to be honest, they do more harm than good IMO.

I took fina for 8 months and nothing changed at all with my hair and my liver values went through the roof.

The only real way to combat gyno is surgery, letro wrecks hell on your hormonal profile and i would never recommend anyone to use it.

[theworm]

i am on letro now, and it has worked great for both water retention as well as my gyno.

so i am a fan.


but since starting it, almost no libido

[lesaucer]

i am on letro now, and it has worked great for both water retention as well as my gyno.

so i am a fan.


but since starting it, almost no libido

USE LOW DOSE!!! 0.4MG TWICE A WEEK MAXXXX!!!!

[theworm]

shit.  i have been taking 1.25mg!    i know, i will start lowering, or use it EOD.

[tstmaniac]

You kno letro throws ur lipid profiles out of wack pretty aggressivelÝ

[theworm]

overload (or anyone else).


what about this idea?   Remember, i have gyno and paranoid about hair loss.  my goal is to gain only around a solid 10 pounds.   how bout this cycle:

week 1-4   anavar (Human grade): 100mg daily
weeks 4-7 anavar 50mg daily

this way, hair loss, gyno, acne would be very low.  then no need for propecia, and no need for letro.   is there something terrible wrong with such a simple cycle?  again, i am not looking to get 'huge.'

[g101]

shit.  i have been taking 1.25mg!    i know, i will start lowering, or use it EOD.

try using 2.5mged for 3 weeks with 20mg nolvadex..... if you don't wanna fuck and make your gf think it's her when you really know whats going on.. thats what happend to me lol

took a GOOD 3-4 months to recover

very high ego though  

[Overload]

i am on letro now, and it has worked great for both water retention as well as my gyno.

so i am a fan.


but since starting it, almost no libido

Doesn't sound like something to be a fan of brother.

You know where i stand. 500mg test only with nothing else, if you can't handle the hairloss or are having issues with gyno, don't use AAS.

I would bet 90% of the guys who think they have gyno, just have water retention.

Also if you are playing with your nipples all day long testing for gyno, they will be sore from that.

[theworm]

thanks.


i think an anavar only cycle is interesing.  i know i may not gain a solid ten, but it may harden up my muscles and make it look like i gained 15 pounds.  thats the plan.

[jerseymuscles113]

worm aas usage is not for you obviously...what your looking to gain you can gain by tightening up your diet and training methods becomin more consistent with everything for you i'd recommend some bcaa's a good multi and a tighter diet don't rely on lookin to drugs so much

[theworm]

worm aas usage is not for you obviously...what your looking to gain you can gain by tightening up your diet and training methods becomin more consistent with everything for you i'd recommend some bcaa's a good multi and a tighter diet don't rely on lookin to drugs so much

thanks.  actually, plan is a test prop and var cycle.  see the thread about short burst cycles.