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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2010, 11:21:35 AM »
Nice back peddling, shit-for-brains.
How is that back peddling?  You provided a source and I acknowledged it.  How about you take before and after pictures of your little Turkish training session.  I bet you will look the same as you always have.

I guess if you are trying to look like a doofus in a public gym, you may reach your goal, but I am doubtful to any other outcome or result.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2010, 11:23:53 AM »
Even if I did 10 years worth of Turkish "getups" myself I would still be a 170 lb Twink. 

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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2010, 11:25:07 AM »
I can offer some comments based on my personal observations during the 50's when the Odd Lifts were popular in an attempt to show which dude in the gym was the strongest in doing some type of uncommon lift or feat of strength.

It was something like a, "Yea, but can you do this!?" sort of thing with everyone trying to come up with new ideas, new challenges.

"Odd Lifts" eventually grew into what we call Power Lifting today, but back then odd lifts were any lift that appeared to be somewhat odd, such as the one shown in that first video.

Reg Park and Reeves used to do this stuff during intermissions at small bodybuilding contests in the Oakland area and almost everyone back at that time would see how many olympic plates they could pick up simply by using the fingers of one hand. In fact, I witnessed that just recently.

Way back then there was no organization nor sanctioning body that would promote strength contests unless it was some strong guy standing on a stage challenging someone in the audience. And the usual prize for anyone who beat him would be a turkey or a paper wrapped ham.

Now-a-days you get a plastic trophy. That's progression.


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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2010, 11:30:28 AM »
I can offer some comments based on my personal observations during the 50's when the Odd Lifts were popular in an attempt to show which dude in the gym was the strongest in doing some type of uncommon lift or feat of strength.

It was something like a, "Yea, but can you do this!?" sort of thing with everyone trying to come up with new ideas, new challenges.

"Odd Lifts" eventually grew into what we call Power Lifting today, but back then odd lifts were any lift that appeared to be somewhat odd, such as the one shown in that first video.

Reg Park and Reeves used to do this stuff during intermissions at small bodybuilding contests in the Oakland area and almost everyone back at that time would see how many olympic plates they could pick up simply by using the fingers of one hand. In fact, I witnessed that just recently.

Way back there there was no organization nor sanctioning body that would promote strength contests unless it was some strong guy standing on a stage challenging someone in the audience. And the usual prize for anyone who beat him would be a turkey or a paper wrapped ham.

Now-a-days you get a plastic trophy. That's progression.


I could see that aspect of it, but not for everyday training.  Unless of course you fancy an injury.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2010, 11:32:49 AM »
You have to peddle exercise gimmickry in your line of work else people will figure out that you serve no purpose.  Its quite simple really.
Kind of like the gimmickry that is the Adonis principals........

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2010, 11:34:09 AM »
Does anyone else do this exercise?



Only just started doing them, but they are pretty awesome. I tried them with a sandbag at the end of a sandbag workout Monday and that was quite brutal on the core.


That was retarded lol

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2010, 11:39:11 AM »
Umm, the Turkish get up is an old school exercise. It was popular with strongmen in the late 19th and early twentieth century.

It may be an old school "exhibition feat" but I don't know if they did it as a regular part of their routine.  Lets say 5 sets of 8 reps during a workout.  And if so, I never seen it before in MY life till today.  I have been training since 1973 and easily been to over 200 gyms around the country, Mexico and China and not once have I seen anyone do this exercise and I have trained with and seen some of the best old timers in person.  I am sure their a zillion of these old type of exercises.  It is pretty cool to know even back then they were trying to find ways to increase their strength.

The photo below reminds me of how we used to grab olympics bars and roll them across the floor to see which one was less bent so we could use that one.  Especially for the bench press.   Like when you go to a pool hall to find a straight stick.
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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2010, 11:40:18 AM »
Yea, TA. It was not intended to be a workout, but simply a way to demonstrate one's strength.

And it got 'stranger' whenever someone would say, "Yea! But can you do this!?".

But I do gotta admit that a few guys back then did 'workout' this way on a permanent basis. You'd usually see them in a fog bank at the Marina Greens lifting a heavy rock.

In fact I knew one very strong guy back then who never did belong to the "Y" (the only place to train back then) who would "train" each hour on the hour by walking off the curb and grab any car bumper and start doing "dead lifts".

If he couldn't lift it, he'd call it 'Isometrics' or warm ups and look for a lighter model within the hour.

He was one of the guys who lifted my VW out of the lot when it got impounded.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2010, 11:42:56 AM »
How is that back peddling?  You provided a source and I acknowledged it.  How about you take before and after pictures of your little Turkish training session.  I bet you will look the same as you always have.

I guess if you are trying to look like a doofus in a public gym, you may reach your goal, but I am doubtful to any other outcome or result.

I'm currently training to go back in the military, therefore "how I'll look at the end of x amount of time" is pretty low on my list of reasons for choosing the Turkish Get Up. It is recommended by quite a few different military fitness sites, though.

However, thanks for your concern regarding my choice of exercise.

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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2010, 11:45:24 AM »
Keith, I'm sure you used to grab two olympic plates between your fingers and lift them up.

Right?

I sort of recall that Tommy K was great at doing that and Steve Dussia did it on a daily basis when people were watching.

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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2010, 11:47:45 AM »
OPPS, I did fail to mention that the oly plates back then were smooth on both sides so you had to use lots of finger pressure to squeeze those plates together and lift them both.

And a knee high lift was OK.

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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2010, 11:58:18 AM »
Also back then, there were a variety of strength apparatus based on springs, but the springs that were initially used were somewhat the size and strength of the kind you find in very week bed springs.

Then one day one of the gym members discovered that there were some relatively huge springs under the hoods of automobiles which made it easier to open and close those hoods after checking out the engine for various reasons.

And that's when those gym spring apparatus things got more difficult to use.

And that[s when everyone in the neighborhood wondered how come the hood of their automobile was not working properly.

Sorry! - Off topic!

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2010, 11:59:57 AM »
Keith, I'm sure you used to grab two olympic plates between your fingers and lift them up.

Right?

I sort of recall that Tommy K was great at doing that and Steve Dussia did it on a daily basis when people were watching.

Yes when I was training for armwrsstling I did all sorts grip stuff.  I could pinch two 45 lb plates with the smooth side out and hold them off the ground about an inch or so for about 13 seconds or a little more.  I would hang on a chinup bar for as long as I could.  I had grippers in my car I would hold a penny between them from stop light to stop light or during a red light.  I know some guys who had bike inner tubes connected to the passenger side door and do curls while they were driving.  I always kept a heavy dumbbell by my bed and once in a while do con curls.  I was the guy everyone went to when they found a car up on the sidewalk.  I did it one time in Palm Springs.  Saw a really hot girl go into Las Casuelas with her friends.  My friends and I were walking down Palm Canyon and saw them get out of her little Honda car parked right in front.  I went over and got the front end up on the sidewalk then put the back end end ans was blocking the sidewalk where everyone had to go around.  We waited till the girls came out and she couldn't believe what happened.  I pretended to be walking by and asked her if she needed help.  I was about 240 tan as hell and built pretty good.  I put it back in the street they went gaga over me and we met up later at a party at the Riviera.  Times were good back then.  Sorry to everyone for going back in history again.
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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2010, 12:03:51 PM »
I'm currently training to go back in the military, therefore "how I'll look at the end of x amount of time" is pretty low on my list of reasons for choosing the Turkish Get Up. It is recommended by quite a few different military fitness sites, though.

However, thanks for your concern regarding my choice of exercise.
Military training eh?   Wouldn`t it be a better exercise to sleep deprive yourself, do some target shooting, practice driving, swimming and running and not worry about weights at all if you are training for the military?

I don`t see how a "Turkish" "getup" will help win the war on terror or the war in Afghanistan.   Can you please explain how it may benefit in that respect?

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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2010, 12:07:58 PM »
Yep, those definitely were the best of times.

But today ain't necessarily the worst of times.

How come car lifting is not too popular these days?

I have heard that 'cow tipping' took its place but living in a city doesn't let me verify that statement.

BUT ......  (and this is the honest truth) --- cow "Lifting' was a little bit popular back then. You'd start with the calf and keep on lifting until it grew until whatever it grew into!

Now that's definitely ODD LIFTING!

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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2010, 12:15:08 PM »
Also back then, there were a variety of strength apparatus based on spring but the springs that were initially used were somewhat the size and strength of the kind you find in old bed springs.

Then one day one of the gym members discovered that there were some relatively hugh springs under the hoods of automobiles which made it easier to open and close those hoods after checking out the engine for various reasons.

And that's when those gym spring apparatus things got more difficult to use.

And that[s when everyone in the neighborhood wondered how come the hood of their automobile was not working properly.

Sorry! - Off topic!

I remember Arnold or someone promoting that spring thing you squeezed with your arms between your chest to help make it bigger.  Well with my infinite wisdom and natural ability to invent things.  I got a garage door spring and did the same thing for free.  

A short related story about car hood springs (which I told before on here somewhere but just in case you missed it).  I had a 66 Mustang and was at my friends house working on the motor.  Can't remember what I was doing but I took the hood off to make it easier to work on.  Well my buddies were hanging around (Craig Kukuk was there in case people want to check my story)  As I leaned over one of the springs came popping up and smacked the shit out me putting me on the ground.  But, I can take a punch and was up in no time dizzy as hell but awake ready to fight some more.  That fucking thing whacked the shit out of me.  But, it was then I knew I could have been a MMA fighter. ;D

By the way, my only real strength feat I did regualry was popping a hot water bottle.  I saw Franco do it and thought I could beat his record.  I went out and bought a hot water bottle and did it for the first time while driving in my friends car.  I was like a few seconds off the record set by Franco but I used the thickest bottle made when he used the thinnest.  So I thought I could break that record and also the long distance baseball throw.  At the time I had been in a winter camp and we played and practiced at Blair Field in Long Beach, CA.  Well during an open camp I was playing catch with guys out in center field.  I was a catcher.  The center field fence was I think 420'.  I was throwing popups to the guys in centerfield without really trying hard.  So one of the guys asked me if I could throw it over the fence.  So I got behind home plate a few steps and threw it as hard as a I could.  Everyone stopped to watch, about 100 guys.  And it cleared the centerfield fence.  Several others tried afterwards and no one came close.  So, when I looked up the record of the longest baseball throw I found out it was 453 feet.  So I thought if I practiced enough I could attempt to break that record and the hot water bottle blowup at the same time.  But, I never tried.
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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2010, 12:19:34 PM »
Military guy..... concentrate on running long distances. In the military everything is based on running and endurance.

And you might want to get your pushup count into the 100 range and pull ups ..... hmmmm.. at least 20.

And max out your situps.

All the above are important unless the military fitness tests have changed recently.

I was one of a few Marines who used to run the obsticle course for Dog and Pony Shows when the congressmen used to visit Quantico - so I know this shit!

At least I used to know this shit!

But running alone is definitely good for avoiding bullets and grenades and some explosives. And getting to the chow-line before anyone else.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2010, 12:20:37 PM »
Yep, those definitely were the best of times.

But today ain't necessarily the worst of times.

How come car lifting is not too popular these days?

I have heard that 'cow tipping' took its place but living in a city doesn't let me verify that statement.

BUT ......  (and this is the honest truth) --- cow "Lifting' was a little bit popular back then. You'd start with the calf and keep on lifting until it grew until whatever it grew into!

Now that's definitely ODD LIFTING!

Car lifting isn't popular today because the cars weigh too much.  Even the smaller electric cars are heavier cause of the batteries.  Back then the first year of the Honda car it was so light I could literally get under it from behind and lift the entire back end over my head.
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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2010, 12:22:12 PM »
I remember Arnold or someone promoting that spring thing you squeezed with your arms between your chest to help make it bigger.  Well with my infinite wisdom and natural ability to invent things.  I got a garage door spring and did the same thing for free.  

A short related story about car hood springs (which I told before on here somewhere but just in case you missed it).  I had a 66 Mustang and was at my friends house working on the motor.  Can't remember what I was doing but I took the hood off to make it easier to work on.  Well my buddies were hanging around (Craig Kukuk was there in case people want to check my story)  As I leaned over one of the springs came popping up and smacked the shit out me putting me on the ground.  But, I can take a punch and was up in no time dizzy as hell but awake ready to fight some more.  That fucking thing whacked the shit out of me.  But, it was then I knew I could have been a MMA fighter. ;D

By the way, my only real strength feat I did regualry was popping a hot water bottle.  I saw Franco do it and thought I could beat his record.  I went out and bought a hot water bottle and did it for the first time while driving in my friends car.  I was like a few seconds off the record set by Franco but I used the thickest bottle made when he used the thinnest.  So I thought I could break that record and also the long distance baseball throw.  At the time I had been in a winter camp and we played and practiced at Blair Field in Long Beach, CA.  Well during an open camp I was playing catch with guys out in center field.  I was a catcher.  The center field fence was I think 420'.  I was throwing popups to the guys in centerfield without really trying hard.  So one of the guys asked me if I could throw it over the fence.  So I got behind home plate a few steps and threw it as hard as a I could.  Everyone stopped to watch, about 100 guys.  And it cleared the centerfield fence.  Several others tried afterwards and no one came close.  So, when I looked up the record of the longest baseball throw I found out it was 453 feet.  So I thought if I practiced enough I could attempt to break that record and the hot water bottle blowup at the same time.  But, I never tried.
When doing the hot Water bottle, if you break the seal from your mouth to bottle, do you have to start over?  How do you not get a headache when doing it?

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2010, 12:23:45 PM »
TGUs are a great exercise. I can do 11 minutes with the 16KG.

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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2010, 12:25:57 PM »
Keith, Tommy K was also great at blowing up Hot H20 Bottles. I saw you do it once or twice on base I think.

I got a funny hot water bottle story I think I told on here before involving John Mikl - God of Thunder who I hear is still active in the music business.

Will tell it later cause I am heading out to see if I understand 'Inception' which I think I will not. You know me and complected movies. And if there is a car chase in it, I'm leaving.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2010, 12:26:22 PM »
as a personal trainer, I can tell you that, in my opinion, Turkish get ups are a "show off" move

that is, it is a move that trainers give to retarded clients to "show off".

"OMG- my trainer is like incredible.  He made me do this exercise called a Turkish Get up.  OMG you have to see this exercise"

If you want to work your "core" (God, I hate that term,btw) just do controlled flat ground crunches


btw, "the coach"- I know you are gonna prove me wrong but that is my opinion on Turkish get ups
Furthermore, "Planks" are bullshit as well.  The only reason I use them is so I can check my Text messages while my client is looking down on the floor doing a "plank" for a minute or two

You know nothing of the core. Maybe if you ever develop serious back problems you'll have to expand your knowledge a little.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2010, 12:27:35 PM »
Military training eh?   Wouldn`t it be a better exercise to sleep deprive yourself, do some target shooting, practice driving, swimming and running and not worry about weights at all if you are training for the military?

I don`t see how a "Turkish" "getup" will help win the war on terror or the war in Afghanistan.   Can you please explain how it may benefit in that respect?

Most balanced training regimens include some form of weight training, as well as the usual running, swimming etc. If it is good enough for Navy SEALs to recommend as part of the SEAL fit programme, it's good enough for my needs:



Tbh, I can't remember claiming that a particular exercise would help us win any war. I just mentioned that I was using it as part of my prep for basic training.

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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2010, 12:41:56 PM »
When doing the hot Water bottle, if you break the seal from your mouth to bottle, do you have to start over?  How do you not get a headache when doing it?

Yes but it never happened.  I used to be a spokesperson for the American Lung Society in Hawaii.  They sent me to several places to speak to people about having strong lungs and not smoking and such.  I would always challenge people to blow up the bottle.  no one could.  Even Lee Haney tried one time and he turned all shades of black trying.  I open a huge concert for Henry Kapono at the Waikiki Shell by blowing up a bottle.  That one was great.  The first video below is promoting somethign I did for some charity walk the next day where they used the pop from the hot water bottle to start the race.  Opps I thought I had another one ready at a celebrity softball game I played with the Hungry Lions Celebrity team.  I blew one up before the game.  It shows it from the very beginning to popping.  That was the closet I cam to not doing it on the first try.  A little air was leaking out the side of my mouth but I kept going and did it.



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Re: Turkish get ups.
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2010, 12:49:15 PM »
Yes but it never happened.  I used to be a spokesperson for the American Lung Society in Hawaii.  They sent me to several places to speak to people about having strong lungs and not smoking and such.  I would always challenge people to blow up the bottle.  no one could.  Even Lee Haney tried one time and he turned all shades of black trying.  I open a huge concert for Henry Kapono at the Waikiki Shell by blowing up a bottle.  That one was great.  The first video below is promoting somethign I did for some charity walk the next day where they used the pop from the hot water bottle to start the race.  Opps I thought I had another one ready at a celebrity softball game I played with the Hungry Lions Celebrity team.  I blew one up before the game.  It shows it from the very beginning to popping.  That was the closet I cam to not doing it on the first try.  A little air was leaking out the side of my mouth but I kept going and did it.




That was faster than Franco in Pumping Iron.  :o