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Re: Inception.
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2010, 11:18:55 PM »
Although various friends and family members have been involved with the Planet of the Apes series since it originated, I never was an Apes fan.

But the one scene I'll always remember was the beach scene in which Heston discovers the Statue of Liberty disclosing the fact this was all occuring on planet earth.

Are you aware that Quincy Taylor was one of the featured apes in the movie that starred Mark Wahlberg?

I spent a few hours in the make-up van watching the experts create the apes that looked pretty convincing in real life too. And a couple of those apes strangled me for a photographic memory.

Fun times watching them create that movie.



I wasn't aware that Mr. Taylor was part of the 21 century POTApes. However now that you mention it, the resembles between him and the Apes is uncanny.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2010, 06:38:44 AM »
Stuntmovie, I've known about it for several months but don't remember where I first heard about it.

Looking forward to some stories if you visit the set.

Gorilla's shoulders are nose level high, kind of narrow, and positioned a little forward in real life. They've been giving the gorillas broad human shoulders, longer neck, and shoulders thrown back.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2010, 09:16:25 AM »
Will do, Meg.

I can tell you some past "Apes" stories if you want to hear some.

My best USMC bud was Jack Tyree who was one of the very first apes in the original and he called me from the studio because he had been sitting in  a make up chair for many hours getting made up to look like an ape and they allowed him to make phone calls during that long a boring process. He invited me to take some leave and be an ape in that movie but I was overseas at that time and turned it down.

Jack was very well respected within the Hollywood movie making industry and was often called upon to attend to problems that some of the studio heads wanted 'fixed' quietly.

And I often went along for the ride (so to speak). Back then those 'problems' were usually drug related among working, top billed stars with a current movie in production, or with the son or daughter of some important person, or merely to settle domestic disputes that were causing problems on the set.

Jack  would settle the problem quietly and the studio hot shots were very  grateful, so Jack worked constantly on and out of the studio environment.

And any friend of Jack's was always treated  like a major star himself, so I always had free reign to roam around the studio lots when I visited Jack while was doing crazy stuff making movies. And I myself met some major stars in the process and was invited to partake as an extra in a few movie scenes of movies I never saw.

Dr. Chimps may recall this one - the title of which I have long forgotten. It was a best selling book and an eventual movie about a bear and her cub who were disfigured in a forest fire and were believed to be monsters killing campers (or something like that).

It was filmed in the high Sierras and the script called for a number of long distant shot bear scenes so Jack invited me to be one of those bears for a couple of weeks during the shoot.

At first I thought .... Academy Award nomination on it's way! .... but then reality set in and I declined once again.

Those next few years Jack appeared in many movies along with the likes of Goldie Hawn, Anthony Quinn, Burt Rynolds, Jack Elam, Bill Smith, and many others who knew Jack personally and invited him to participate in their next production.

And on those occasionally rare weekends, Jack and his stunt-guy pals would "barrow" the studio's movie making gear and make motorcycle movies of their own in the Hollywood hills which would eventually be seen on your local drive-in movie screens and throughout the Orient.

I played the part of a dead guy once in one of those. 

Got lots of these kind of movie making stories but I don't want to put you on dreamland's Level #3 where it's sometimes impossible to come back!

Movies teach us the damdest things!                 

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2010, 09:18:39 AM »
stunt, can you please explain how you went from military to hollywood.  I'm missing the connection here.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2010, 10:28:54 AM »
Mon, I never went Hollywood. I liked guns and stuff like that way to much back then.

But when I was a kid I did everything I could to sneak into the studios, but was only successful a few times.

Then while in the Corps, some best buds went into Hollywood (see above) and became very successful as stunt guys and trouble fixers.

I would visit on off-duty weekends and participate in their 'shenanigans' (sonetimes reluctantly)  and meet a lot of the major players in the process.

Had lunch at very private tables at a couple of the major studios commissaries with the studio president and in one case - with the studio owner. All the stars would walk by and sort of bow in passing while we continued talking about what was shooting on the lot that day.

And then following lunch, Jack would head off to do his thing on one of the sound stages while I did my best to visit all the rest.

My only restriction was to never enter while the red light was on.

On some weekends I'd attend movie-planning meetings with the stunt guys who borrowed stuff and made weekend mlovies on their own.

At one such meeting I had the honor of meeting Sean Flynn at his dad's bungalow outside of Universal Studios and saw some very original paintings that are sometimes displayed in the world's finest art galleries.  

Years later my nephews and nieces got into various entertainment fields and have been very successful ever since.

But something strange did happen along the way. You gotta read my original post about Jack calling me from the ape make-up chair getting ready for the original movie ..... "I'm in make up getting made ready to look like an ape  for this new ape-movie with Chaleston Heston!"

And then almost 50 years later, I get a cellphone call from my nephew saying ," I'm in make up getting made ready to look like an ape  for this new ape-movie with Mark Wahlberg!"

Deja-vu, all over again!

So now I do unimportant stuff when called upon ... Stunt-coordibnator, motion capture rope puller, script possibility listener,script reader, and deep thinker.

And I still sneak on sets whenever possible.

And I still keep my pistols clean too.

And I always shake hands and buy a drink or a soda and say, ""Thanks!" to anyone in a US military uniform.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #105 on: July 20, 2010, 11:19:34 AM »
Sorry, Doc! You're probably still sleep'en so I did my own research and found the monster movie that I was invited to 'star' in for a formidable distance from the camera lens.

It was called "The Prophecy"

John Frankenheimer updates the mutant-monster films of the 1950s with a modern environmental twist in this well-meaning but cliché-ridden late-'70s horror film. Robert Foxworth is so earnest it hurts as a rabble-rousing ghetto doctor who packs up his pregnant wife (Talia Shire) and heads out to the Maine woods to investigate claims of environmental pollution. That's the least of his concerns when a gooey mutant grizzly goes on the rampage and he joins forces with Native American activist Armand Assante (wearing his humorless resolve like war paint) to get out of the woods. Frankenheimer is a good director saddled with a bad, blunt script, and like a pro he delivers the requisite gore and even racks up the tension in a terrific opening chase. But even he can't overcome the clumsiest collection of deformed woodland creatures to claw their way through a monster movie. -

I could'a been a conten'da and referred to you all as "the little people". (Inside joke there some place.)

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #106 on: July 20, 2010, 06:25:23 PM »
Just saw it. Good movie, not great. It was worth the money.
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Re: Inception.
« Reply #107 on: July 21, 2010, 09:31:22 AM »
Just saw it and it bored me silly, wasnt remotely complex but they made it out as if it was and dragged it out to 2 and a half hours, before halfway through I could tell exactly how it would end, the only curveball they through was that he ran the inception on his wife.To me it seemed like they wanted this mass complex plot (which wasnt at all complex) so lets spread it out with tons of meaningless action and bulletfiring where nobody but one semi important guy gets hit, wouldnt watch it again if you paid me.



I'm not the biggest fan of movies that "leave you guessing in the end" without a definite conclusion, I know writers like to say "we'll let you decide what really happened - or what this really means" but I prefer to have all questions answered and a solid conclusion.  Other than that, I loved it!

Lol?All questions were answered and it had a definite conclusion.Maybe you walked in to the wrong movie?

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #108 on: July 21, 2010, 10:27:17 AM »
Just saw it and it bored me silly, wasnt remotely complex but they made it out as if it was and dragged it out to 2 and a half hours, before halfway through I could tell exactly how it would end, the only curveball they through was that he ran the inception on his wife.To me it seemed like they wanted this mass complex plot (which wasnt at all complex) so lets spread it out with tons of meaningless action and bulletfiring where nobody but one semi important guy gets hit, wouldnt watch it again if you paid me.

Lol?All questions were answered and it had a definite conclusion.Maybe you walked in to the wrong movie?


No I definitely walked into the right movie....  If you paid close attention, you would notice...


SPOILER ALERT.....


That that spin top (dradle?) looked like it may start to fall over, but the screen then just goes blank, so you never really know if the spin top drops (its reality) or if it keeps spinning (its a dream)

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #109 on: July 21, 2010, 10:44:56 AM »
Just saw it and it bored me silly, wasnt remotely complex but they made it out as if it was and dragged it out to 2 and a half hours, before halfway through I could tell exactly how it would end, the only curveball they through was that he ran the inception on his wife.To me it seemed like they wanted this mass complex plot (which wasnt at all complex) so lets spread it out with tons of meaningless action and bulletfiring where nobody but one semi important guy gets hit, wouldnt watch it again if you paid me.

Lol?All questions were answered and it had a definite conclusion.Maybe you walked in to the wrong movie?

not everyone can be as smrat as you

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #110 on: July 21, 2010, 10:46:37 AM »
not everyone can be as smrat as you


 tru dat

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #111 on: July 21, 2010, 12:44:01 PM »
Arch, Correct me if I'm wrong but it wasn't the 'spinning' of that "dradel" that revealed reality, but the fact it was there at all.

That 'idea' alone (right or wrong) convinced me that this movie was worthless.

P.S. This possible 'stupidity' on my part does not give you the right to call me an asshole or an extremely stupid person or 'un-AMERICAN' with evil intents. That right is only assumable by other individuals who can convince me otherwise and there is nothing of intelligence in this movie that could be used by others to convince me otherwise.

Now to continue my 1st level of dream-land.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #112 on: July 21, 2010, 06:19:00 PM »
LOL, you make a good point.

No seriously, I dunno if I'm a groupie, there a lot movies that I like, and a lot movies that I highly dislike, there are also movies that I just won't watch cause they will scare me - no seriously, I don't own much horror cause I freak out - lame but true.

I've been collecting buying movies for over 10 years, its one of my past times.  In the realm of movies and true movie collections  - 400 is nothing!  Just cause you can't think of 100 movies that you'd like to buy, doesn't mean thats the consumer standard.  Think of it as a hobby of mine!


Some of the movies I own are very mainstream, some are a little more deep, and some are very dumb.  I get what I enjoy, has nothing to do with being a follower, did you miss the part that I rarely read movie reviews and decide on myself.

And yes Bay I do agree many critics actually have the background and experience to judge many aspects on movies that we tend to miss out, but I prefer choosing for myself thats all really.

A totally legitimate choice.  I just had to respond to the idea that a film critic is just some guy with an opinion.  His/Hers is an informed opinion and that is what makes it useful.  A doctor is a just a guy with an opinion too, but I wouldn't substitute my medical judgement for his if I got sick.

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #113 on: July 21, 2010, 08:23:20 PM »
Arch, Correct me if I'm wrong but it wasn't the 'spinning' of that "dradel" that revealed reality, but the fact it was there at all.

That 'idea' alone (right or wrong) convinced me that this movie was worthless.

P.S. This possible 'stupidity' on my part does not give you the right to call me an asshole or an extremely stupid person or 'un-AMERICAN' with evil intents. That right is only assumable by other individuals who can convince me otherwise and there is nothing of intelligence in this movie that could be used by others to convince me otherwise.

Now to continue my 1st level of dream-land.

When did I ever call you un-american or stupid or an asshole?

SPOILER ALERT

I thought Leo specifically said that if it kept spinning he was still in a dream?  Hence the scene where he spun it and had his revolver in hand, and when it toppled over he put his revolver away?

But then again Ellen Page had a Chess piece, how you gonna spin that? So I could very well be wrong!

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Re: Inception.
« Reply #114 on: July 21, 2010, 11:57:15 PM »
You Never did, ARCH! Sorry for the mis-understanding!

That was merely my failed attempt at trying to throw some humor towards a common problem that is often pretty evident on this Board..

An attempt to describe some of us GetBiggers who show some form of discontent towards anyone who thinks differently about various subjects or individuals than they themselves do - which sometimes seem pretty damn evident on this board.

I'm gonna ask for a third opinion regarding our conflicting opinion regarding that 'spinning top/chess piece'. I'll do my best to read the script and let ya know.

Kind of interesting that I disliked that movie  but continue to discuss it a lot here and with friends who have also seen it.


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Re: Inception.
« Reply #115 on: July 22, 2010, 04:13:28 AM »
You Never did, ARCH! Sorry for the mis-understanding!

That was merely my failed attempt at trying to throw some humor towards a common problem that is often pretty evident on this Board..

An attempt to describe some of us GetBiggers who show some form of discontent towards anyone who thinks differently about various subjects or individuals than they themselves do - which sometimes seem pretty damn evident on this board.

I'm gonna ask for a third opinion regarding our conflicting opinion regarding that 'spinning top/chess piece'. I'll do my best to read the script and let ya know.

Kind of interesting that I disliked that movie  but continue to discuss it a lot here and with friends who have also seen it.




Not the best Source but:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception_(film)


Cobb carries a spinning top to test whether he is dreaming or awake, which spins or topples respectively.


Cobb spins the top to test reality, but is distracted by his children. The top begins to wobble, but the scene cuts to black which leaves the question of whether Cobb is still dreaming.