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Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« on: July 17, 2010, 11:17:02 PM »
Pro Bodybuilding is not a legitimate sport. One thing that all legitimate sports have in common is that the athletes are systematically drug tested to keep performance enhancing drugs out of the sport. This is done to even the playing field, prevent cheating and the negative health consequences of drug use. This does not completely remove performance enhancing drugs from sports, athletes who choose to cheat will use low doses to evade detection and many times they are eventually caught and banned.

So for pro bodybuilding to be considered a legitimate sport, there would need to be stringent drug testing of its "athletes". But since bodybuilding as a sport has already well and truly established itself in the minds of it's followers of the past several decades, on the basis that its athletes have use large amounts of drugs in their achievements. It seems to me that bodybuilding as a sport under strict drug testing would lose many of it's followers due to unrealistic expectations conditioned into the minds of the followers not being met.

This would also have a dramatic negative effect on the "supplement industry" built up around drug use condoning bodybuilding. It seems to me that the people who want to legitimise bodybuilding as a sport are stuck in between a rock and a hard place.

This is not about whether bodybuilding is a sport or not, it is about it not being a legitimate sport. Can you think of another legitimate sport that allows unchecked rampant drug use for competition? Maybe the people at the top of the organization of bodybuilding want to maintain the status quo as they are also involved in the supplement industry side and want to keep that aspect profitable. Drug free bodybuilding would bankrupt the pro bodybuilding industry.

Pro bodybuilding as a legitimate sport is built on such a shaky premise.

"Bodybuilding is the drugs."

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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 11:39:12 PM »

"Bodybuilding is the drugs."
No no , "Bodybuilding is the Muscle."  ;D

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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 12:00:20 AM »
That's too much to start off with... That's like a full meal of information and I was looking for a snack.

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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 03:31:30 AM »
Pro Bodybuilding is not a legitimate sport. One thing that all legitimate sports have in common is that the athletes are systematically drug tested to keep performance enhancing drugs out of the sport. This is done to even the playing field, prevent cheating and the negative health consequences of drug use. This does not completely remove performance enhancing drugs from sports, athletes who choose to cheat will use low doses to evade detection and many times they are eventually caught and banned.

So for pro bodybuilding to be considered a legitimate sport, there would need to be stringent drug testing of its "athletes". But since bodybuilding as a sport has already well and truly established itself in the minds of it's followers of the past several decades, on the basis that its athletes have use large amounts of drugs in their achievements. It seems to me that bodybuilding as a sport under strict drug testing would lose many of it's followers due to unrealistic expectations conditioned into the minds of the followers not being met.

This would also have a dramatic negative effect on the "supplement industry" built up around drug use condoning bodybuilding. It seems to me that the people who want to legitimise bodybuilding as a sport are stuck in between a rock and a hard place.

This is not about whether bodybuilding is a sport or not, it is about it not being a legitimate sport. Can you think of another legitimate sport that allows unchecked rampant drug use for competition? Maybe the people at the top of the organization of bodybuilding want to maintain the status quo as they are also involved in the supplement industry side and want to keep that aspect profitable. Drug free bodybuilding would bankrupt the pro bodybuilding industry.

Pro bodybuilding as a legitimate sport is built on such a shaky premise.

"Bodybuilding is the drugs."
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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 09:03:55 AM »
There is drug use in all sports. The cheaters will always be ahead of the testers.

bodybuilding is actually the only ''sport'' that has a level playing field because everyone is taking whatever they want.

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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 09:24:03 AM »
There is drug use in all sports. The cheaters will always be ahead of the testers.

bodybuilding is actually the only ''sport'' that has a level playing field because everyone is taking whatever they want.

No way bro.  Those days are small and numbered.  Technology is growing exponentially for being able to detect ergogenic aids and performance enhancement.  New and improved drugs are not hitting the market least of all the black market as fast as the drug testers technology. 

As far as bodybuilding........peop le that know anything about the endeavor would never call it a "sport".  It's physical culture but it's not a sport.  It's if anything more of an art and science.  It's the judges that have ruined the sport.  As long as you make size the most important aspect of a bodybuilding competition then you'll have the current state of pro bodybuilding or bodybuilding in general.  Whats funny is I know guys that don't even compete that are taking 2-3 grams of steroids a week.  It's pathetic.  Drug use has gotten so out of control and the funny thing is MOST or 99% of the guys don't even need half the shit they take to achieve the size that they do.  They just think that more is always better and if I take this amount then 10x this amount will make me 10x bigger.  MOst bodybuilders are not the sharptest bunch of guys around..........aka the term  meathead.

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Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 10:52:59 AM »
Only drug test for slin and GH.


It will bring BB back to the 70s and 80s, where they had better physiques with no swollen guts, etc.  (i know they had GH back then, but it was not as abused as it is today).
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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better:
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 11:15:23 AM »
They were using HGH in the late 1970's (sth) and 1980's.  Insulin was starting to be used in the late eighties, early ninties. The problem nowadays is the amounts have changed.

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 03:09:24 PM »
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One thing that all legitimate sports have in common is that the athletes are systematically drug tested to keep performance enhancing drugs out of the sport.

Get it into your head - there is drug use in all sports. Whether or not people know when they get tested, or which to use so as to not be detected is a different story.  That has nothing to do with it.

A sport and athletes can be anything.  Anywhere where people get together to compete against each other. From surfing, to video games, to thumb wrestling, to dodgeball. 

Get over it - and go compete in beer pong.

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 03:18:21 PM »
or you could just stop them from having sex with fruit...

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 03:19:07 PM »
Get it into your head - there is drug use in all sports. Whether or not people know when they get tested, or which to use so as to not be detected is a different story.  That has nothing to do with it.

A sport and athletes can be anything.  Anywhere where people get together to compete against each other. From surfing, to video games, to thumb wrestling, to dodgeball. 

Get over it - and go compete in beer pong.
BB is not a sport.....

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 03:56:17 PM »
Get it into your head - there is drug use in all sports. Whether or not people know when they get tested, or which to use so as to not be detected is a different story.  That has nothing to do with it.

A sport and athletes can be anything.  Anywhere where people get together to compete against each other. From surfing, to video games, to thumb wrestling, to dodgeball. 

Get over it - and go compete in beer pong.

Hahaha, you're such an idiot. Sure, every sport has drugs in it. But the difference is the level of abuse. How many track athletes or tennis players are stepping on the court or track field with huge guts, looking like piles of shit? There is a difference between "use" and "abuse" Bodybuilders abuse drugs more than any other athlete. The abuse is way out control. Any person with a brain would realize this. This is not saying much for you.
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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 05:21:18 PM »
Get it into your head - there is drug use in all sports. Whether or not people know when they get tested, or which to use so as to not be detected is a different story.  That has nothing to do with it.

A sport and athletes can be anything.  Anywhere where people get together to compete against each other. From surfing, to video games, to thumb wrestling, to dodgeball. 

Get over it - and go compete in beer pong.

And judging by the looks of you probably have never played a "sport" in your life along with Isaac.  Nothing wrong with that but don't sit here and talk about video games and thumb wrestling as "sports".  You sound foolish.  There is absolutely no natural talen i.e. skill required to be a bodybuilder.  Sure it takes mental and physical conditioning, strength, discipline etc.  But in my opinion and those of others who actually play/have played sports bodybuilding is not one.  I take that back.......compared to bodybuilding.....video games and thumb wrestling could actually be considered sports.  bodybuilding?  Not a chance.  It's a competition but not a "sport". 

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 05:25:01 PM »
And judging by the looks of you probably have never played a "sport" in your life  

He does not appear to be the athletic type. 

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 05:39:18 PM »
Pro Bodybuilding is not a legitimate sport. One thing that all legitimate sports have in common is that the athletes are systematically drug tested to keep performance enhancing drugs out of the sport. This is done to even the playing field, prevent cheating and the negative health consequences of drug use. This does not completely remove performance enhancing drugs from sports, athletes who choose to cheat will use low doses to evade detection and many times they are eventually caught and banned.

So for pro bodybuilding to be considered a legitimate sport, there would need to be stringent drug testing of its "athletes". But since bodybuilding as a sport has already well and truly established itself in the minds of it's followers of the past several decades, on the basis that its athletes have use large amounts of drugs in their achievements. It seems to me that bodybuilding as a sport under strict drug testing would lose many of it's followers due to unrealistic expectations conditioned into the minds of the followers not being met.

This would also have a dramatic negative effect on the "supplement industry" built up around drug use condoning bodybuilding. It seems to me that the people who want to legitimise bodybuilding as a sport are stuck in between a rock and a hard place.

This is not about whether bodybuilding is a sport or not, it is about it not being a legitimate sport. Can you think of another legitimate sport that allows unchecked rampant drug use for competition? Maybe the people at the top of the organization of bodybuilding want to maintain the status quo as they are also involved in the supplement industry side and want to keep that aspect profitable. Drug free bodybuilding would bankrupt the pro bodybuilding industry.

Pro bodybuilding as a legitimate sport is built on such a shaky premise.

"Bodybuilding is the drugs."

Basketball is a legitimate sport and when was the last time you heard of any of those animals testing positive for PED's? Or any drugs for that matter. IT's SHOWWW business

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 05:42:23 PM »
oh no drugs don't do it all, look at cswol or many other juicing getbiggers.

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 06:18:52 PM »
Just mark down the stomach distention and the drug abuse will come down. I mean mark it down hardcore.

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 06:32:31 PM »
And judging by the looks of you probably have never played a "sport" in your life along with Isaac.  Nothing wrong with that but don't sit here and talk about video games and thumb wrestling as "sports".  You sound foolish.  There is absolutely no natural talen i.e. skill required to be a bodybuilder.  Sure it takes mental and physical conditioning, strength, discipline etc.  But in my opinion and those of others who actually play/have played sports bodybuilding is not one.  I take that back.......compared to bodybuilding.....video games and thumb wrestling could actually be considered sports.  bodybuilding?  Not a chance.  It's a competition but not a "sport". 
LOL at bodybuilding taking no natural ability...you think everyone has the genetics to be a bodybuilder?

so what is your definition of a sport MMM? b/c according to websters it is...

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 11:51:32 PM »
How many times. Take the drugs out of the top level and lose fans interest, ticket sales and excitememnt. Just the way it is and always has been. Take it for what it is, drugs and all. If you dont like it. Dont watch it.....

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2010, 02:33:36 PM »
LOL at bodybuilding taking no natural ability...you think everyone has the genetics to be a bodybuilder?

so what is your definition of a sport MMM? b/c according to websters it is...

Genetics and discipline does not get you very far in the NBA, NFL, Olympics, MLB, NHL.......That's my point.  I don't give a fuck what Webster's says.  Sports require some sort of talent, skill set, natural coordination, athletic ability.  You can be a total goofball and still lift weights if your genetics allow you to succeed.  I'll give it to bodybuilders they have a very discipline work ethic...........obviousl y almost borderline obsessive...........but OVERALL you give them a bat, a ball, a stick.....and most are not very athletic.  I know many are FORMER athletes.......but it doesn't take that athletic ability to lift weights, take drugs, get big, and stand on stage in a pair of fag strings. 

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 02:34:42 PM »
Basketball is a legitimate sport and when was the last time you heard of any of those animals testing positive for PED's? Or any drugs for that matter. IT's SHOWWW business

They are all on coke that's why.  BB players don't need steroids.  They are naturally black and naturally muscular.  But they take shit to stay in shape and achieve that edge....just not roids. 

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2010, 02:43:18 PM »
They are all on coke that's why.  BB players don't need steroids.  They are naturally black and naturally muscular.  But they take shit to stay in shape and achieve that edge....just not roids. 

Steroids wouldn't help you one bit basketball.  You need to be strong but light and agile, adding muscle quickly would kill your shot because you have practiced that shot thousands of times over the years and now too muscle behind it would kill it.

Baseball and Egghand both require brute strength for a major aspect of the sport.  It is unnatural for a 6'9" 325 pound man to run a sub 4.4 40.

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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2010, 04:08:47 PM »
Pro Bodybuilding is not a legitimate sport. One thing that all legitimate sports have in common is that the athletes are systematically drug tested to keep performance enhancing drugs out of the sport. This is done to even the playing field, prevent cheating and the negative health consequences of drug use. This does not completely remove performance enhancing drugs from sports, athletes who choose to cheat will use low doses to evade detection and many times they are eventually caught and banned.

WOW!!! Seriously dude if you think that the sports you enjoy watching, football or what not, are drug free then you have no clue what you are talking about!!! College kids who are good athletes know for a fact that once they think about considering getting on a team and being professional football players that drugs is the first thing to put in consideration!!
Explain to me how performance and physique of players magically ehanced over the last decades!!! Those dudes sizes, endurance, shapes, can not be 100% natural!! wake up they do get drug tested but there are so many ways to pass a drug test!! Pro bodybuilders get drug tested too!! how on earth they were never cought!!

PLEASE don't talk about something u have no clue about!!! sitting home and making conclusions and facts pulled out of God knows where is not a fact!!

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Re: Pro Bodybuilding
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Re: Solution to make Pro Bodybuilding better
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 06:04:32 PM »
Can you think of another legitimate sport that allows unchecked rampant drug use for competition?

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