Diet opinions please

[coltrane]

Trying to do the old lose fat while retaining as much muscle as possible thing.

My questions for you guys... should i:

1)  just decrease calories without adding cardio    or
2)  keep calories the same while adding cardio.

thoughts?   I know this is a very general question...

[JimmyJam1974]

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[coltrane]

And please guys, no bs responses.   

[Meso_z]

Trying to do the old lose fat while retaining as much muscle as possible thing.

My questions for you guys... should i:

1)  just decrease calories without adding cardio    or
2)  keep calories the same while adding cardio.

thoughts?   I know this is a very general question...

I prefer the 1st one. with a little cardio here and there..

[coltrane]

I prefer the 1st one. with a little cardio here and there..

Ive been told doing cardio will decrease musculature.

I'm natty too

[ManBearPig...]

Ive been told doing cardio will decrease musculature.

I'm natty too

it won't "decrease musculature" any more than dieting will.  whoever claims that is just a fat shit who did cardio for a week, lost 30 lbs of water weight , and thinks he got "too skinny , fuck that"

[coltrane]

it won't "decrease musculature" any more than dieting will.  whoever claims that is just a fat shit who did cardio for a week, lost 30 lbs of water weight , and thinks he got "too skinny , fuck that"

I see.

I've been told that doing cardio will tap into muscle tissue faster than dieting alone will.   

[Agnostic007]

I like to combine the two. I can run my butt off but if I am not watching my carb intake it's all for naught. When I reduce my simple carbs and do High Intensity Interval Training for about 20 to 25 min a session I get pretty good results and as long as I maintain my protein intake I don't believe I lose much muscle mass.  

[Tapeworm]

Cal reduction by making good food choices instead of eating smaller portions.  Everyone should be doing cardio a couple times a week no matter what.

[lvtolft]

it won't "decrease musculature" any more than dieting will.  whoever claims that is just a fat shit who did cardio for a week, lost 30 lbs of water weight , and thinks he got "too skinny , fuck that"

Agreed.  I have been able to keep more muscle and lower my bodyfat by increasing carding and maintaining my caloric intake.

[wavelength]

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[Master Blaster]

Trying to do the old lose fat while retaining as much muscle as possible thing.

My questions for you guys... should i:

1)  just decrease calories without adding cardio    or
2)  keep calories the same while adding cardio.

thoughts?   I know this is a very general question...

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[JasonH]

I would go with the "do cardio" option.

I tried a cutting program a few years back and did no cardio but just reduced my carb intake whilst keeping protein the same (and sometimes slightly increased) - I lost a lot of muscle mass over an eight week period and looked flat as hell. I ended up calling it quits as it wasn't working for me.

[DK II]

Trying to do the old lose fat while retaining as much muscle as possible thing.

My questions for you guys... should i:

1)  just decrease calories without adding cardio    or
2)  keep calories the same while adding cardio.

thoughts?   I know this is a very general question...

How about decreasing calories AND doing cardio?

Do HIIT-style cardio, like sprint progressions or Tabata, you'll lose the fat in no time.

Fuck this "i starve myself to death with only one junk food meal per day and some protein shakes".

Get a decent diet with healthy fatty acids, lean protein, fibers and moderate carbs around training sessions and then get your lazy ass to do some cardio. There must be a reason why you got fat in the first place.

[tbombz]

cardio wont make you lose muscle. clean up your diet, only eat carb when you need to (different for every person, but probably morning, pre workout, post workout only) , keep fats low, eat 1gram protein per pound lean weight, and lots of vegetables. cardio if you wanna speed things up.

[DK II]

cardio wont make you lose muscle. clean up your diet, only eat carb when you need to (different for every person, but probably morning, pre workout, post workout only) , keep fats low, eat 1gram protein per pound lean weight, and lots of vegetables. cardio if you wanna speed things up.

Cardio won't make you lose muscle??

That's the stupidest thing i have read in a while. Maybe not if you're on 2g of testosterone, but please tell me, how many muscular marathon runners, triathlets and cyclists do you know??

Cardio makes you lose a lot of muscle, that why you're better off with short high intensity intervall cardion sessions than doing 30mins, or hour-long cardio sessions.

[PJim]

You're better off keeping your calories lower, reducing your training frequency, as your recovery will be hindered as calories and nutrients are reduced and start if you haven't already on a creatine supplement.

[CalvinH]

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[wavelength]

Cardio won't make you lose muscle??

That's the stupidest thing i have read in a while. Maybe not if you're on 2g of testosterone, but please tell me, how many muscular marathon runners, triathlets and cyclists do you know??

Cardio makes you lose a lot of muscle, that why you're better off with short high intensity intervall cardion sessions than doing 30mins, or hour-long cardio sessions.

Tbombz is right. Cardio will only make you lose muscle if it inteferes with your strength training or you create a rate of weight loss too high for optimal body composition (same as if you don't eat enough).

Marathon runners are not muscular because they choose not to. It would not be optimal for their performance. If a marathon runner adds enough protein/calories and strength training, he will get muscular.

[The Showstoppa]

Tbombz is right. Cardio will only make you lose muscle if it inteferes with your strength training or you create a rate of weight loss too high for optimal body composition (same as if you don't eat enough).
Marathon runners are not muscular because they choose not to. It would not be optimal for their performance. If a marathon runner adds enough protein/calories and strength training, he will get muscular.

i think this is a huge part of it.  But isn't it also true that when the body goes into a "survival mode" such as serious dieting, it's easier for it to convert muscle to energy than it is to convert bodyfat?  I've always read that.

[dave19]

A bit of both.

[JP_RC]

Trying to do the old lose fat while retaining as much muscle as possible thing.

My questions for you guys... should i:

1)  just decrease calories without adding cardio    or
2)  keep calories the same while adding cardio.

thoughts?   I know this is a very general question...

Whatever you prefer, results will be almost the same, you'll have a caloric deficit.

[tbombz]

Cardio won't make you lose muscle??

That's the stupidest thing i have read in a while. Maybe not if you're on 2g of testosterone, but please tell me, how many muscular marathon runners, triathlets and cyclists do you know??

Cardio makes you lose a lot of muscle, that why you're better off with short high intensity intervall cardion sessions than doing 30mins, or hour-long cardio sessions.

how many marathon runners and cyclist lift heavy weights consistantly and eat 1g protein per lb lean body weight everyday? and do it for years? and even if they did do that, as a natural, they still wouldnt be huge. alot of mrathon runners are actually very fit and muscular, just not very big compared to dedicated bodybuilders.

cardio wont make anyone loose muscle.

[Coach is Back!]

Tbombz is right. Cardio will only make you lose muscle if it inteferes with your strength training or you create a rate of weight loss too high for optimal body composition (same as if you don't eat enough).

Marathon runners are not muscular because they choose not to. It would not be optimal for their performance. If a marathon runner adds enough protein/calories and strength training, he will get muscular.

LOL...no he's not right, lol. marathon runners, especially experienced one's take in probably twice as many calories as we do. I have a tri-athlete I just got done training for a triathlon this weekend up in Sonoma and I've had him on as many as 6500 and he dropped but quick. And yes, we did strength training as well. 

[DK II]

LOL...no he's not right, lol. marathon runners, especially experienced one's take in probably twice as many calories as we do. I have a tri-athlete I just got done training for a triathlon this weekend up in Sonoma and I've had him on as many as 6500 and he dropped but quick. And yes, we did strength training as well. 

Badaboom, Badaboom...

Are you saying that Tbombz and WL are talking out of their asses?

See, i thought so.