Author Topic: Yall think Chad Ochocinco/ Terrel Owens juice? (Read 5672 times)

theworm · « **on:** July 20, 2010, 07:18:37 PM »

watching ochocinco and the TO shows... they are pretty ripped for mid 30s. yall think they juice?

GH15, whats their cycles like?

jtsunami · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2010, 08:25:42 PM »

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2010, 09:19:19 PM »

No more than Romanoski, Jeremy Shockey, Barry Bonds or Jay Cutler.

noworries · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2010, 09:43:03 PM »

Quote from: theworm on July 20, 2010, 07:18:37 PM

watching ochocinco and the TO shows... they are pretty ripped for mid 30s. yall think they juice?

GH15, whats their cycles like?

Gh has to do his personal test first . Her will chime in when done

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:45:50 AM »

Ochocinco is only 32, not mid 30's BTW. T.O. will be 37 this upcoming season.

Both of those guys are professional athletes and represent a very rare physical talent pool. (as to most NFL players). Both are just genetically gifted so I don't think they take steroids. Probably some HgH and that's about it.

Taking steroids does not equal success in the NFL. You either have what it takes athletically, or you don't.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:50:52 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 21, 2010, 07:45:50 AM

Ochocinco is only 32, not mid 30's BTW. T.O. will be 37 this upcoming season.

Both of those guys are professional athletes and represent a very rare physical talent pool. (as to most NFL players). Both are just genetically gifted so I don't think they take steroids. Probably some HgH and that's about it.

Taking steroids does not equal success in the NFL. You either have what it takes athletically, or you don't.

Agree with your points except this part......Shawn Merriman would strongly disagree...

HTexan · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2010, 08:06:21 AM »

Quote from: theworm on July 20, 2010, 07:18:37 PM

watching ochocinco and the TO shows... they are pretty ripped for mid 30s. yall think they juice?

GH15, whats their cycles like?

No. They play a sport for a "job".

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2010, 08:15:36 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on July 21, 2010, 07:50:52 AM

Agree with your points except this part......Shawn Merriman would strongly disagree...

I don't think steroids took him to the next level and allowed him the privilege of playing in the NFL. He's been busted once but he's been tested a few times since then and came back clean. He's still playing on an NFL roster and starting, so that says something.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2010, 08:17:35 AM »

they don't juice

...they're just Black

end of thread

dave19 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2010, 08:40:19 AM »

Who ? Pics ? .. too lazy to google it

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2010, 08:53:15 AM »

No, one is on Plazmosis, the other uses the same fine BSN stuff that Ronnie Coleman.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2010, 11:03:03 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 21, 2010, 08:15:36 AM

I don't think steroids took him to the next level and allowed him the privilege of playing in the NFL. He's been busted once but he's been tested a few times since then and came back clean. He's still playing on an NFL roster and starting, so that says something.

But he was a dominant force when he was juiced up, since he's been off he has been average at best. Course the injuries didn't help either.

jtsunami · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:02:34 PM »

anyone see the charger's got raided for having there own team doc write scripts and have a compounding pharmacy writes scripts just for the team, of course they are on juice, the whole NFL is on juice and hgh and god knows what else, there are millions of dollars on the line.

mazrim · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2010, 05:47:04 AM »

115% chance they are.

HTexan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2010, 07:09:48 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on July 21, 2010, 08:17:35 AM

they don't juice

...they're just Black

end of thread

And get paid $$$ to be in shape.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2010, 07:38:57 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on July 21, 2010, 11:03:03 AM

But he was a dominant force when he was juiced up, since he's been off he has been average at best. Course the injuries didn't help either.

Nobody that plays and STARTS in the NFL is 'average'. Poor choice of a word when it comes to describing any NFL player holding a roster spot, for the matter. These guys are the best of the best and are extremely gifted athletes.

Besides, you don't know why he was taking the PED. Maybe he was trying to heal faster from an injury. Granted, that's still an advantage over opponents but a lot of these PED's these NFL players are getting busted for lately have been for recovery purposes, not speed and strength.

jtsunami · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:27:59 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 22, 2010, 07:38:57 AM

Nobody that plays and STARTS in the NFL is 'average'. Poor choice of a word when it comes to describing any NFL player holding a roster spot, for the matter. These guys are the best of the best and are extremely gifted athletes.

Besides, you don't know why he was taking the PED. Maybe he was trying to heal faster from an injury. Granted, that's still an advantage over opponents but a lot of these PED's these NFL players are getting busted for lately have been for recovery purposes, not speed and strength.

your telling me you don't think they take steroids to get stronger, specially concocted ones like balco that can't be caught? You know how many millions are on the line?

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:32:21 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 22, 2010, 07:38:57 AM

Nobody that plays and STARTS in the NFL is 'average'. Poor choice of a word when it comes to describing any NFL player holding a roster spot, for the matter. These guys are the best of the best and are extremely gifted athletes.

Besides, you don't know why he was taking the PED. Maybe he was trying to heal faster from an injury. Granted, that's still an advantage over opponents but a lot of these PED's these NFL players are getting busted for lately have been for recovery purposes, not speed and strength.

I meant an average NFL player when he was off, still a freak of an athlete......when he was on, he was a beast.....a dominating player. I'm a lifelong Chargers fan and nowhere did I read any legit info that it was for recovery. He lost size, strength, etc... when he came off, so obviously he was taking quite a bit more than a rehab dosage. I really don't care either way, but there is absolutely no question many take it to get a size/strength advantage, otherwise why risk your career?

ThaRealist · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:33:43 AM »

If Owens is "on" he needs to up the dosage, because nobody wants his ass in the NFL

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:35:57 AM »

Quote from: ThaRealist on July 22, 2010, 10:33:43 AM

If Owens is "on" he needs to up the dosage, because nobody wants his ass in the NFL

haha, I think its what goes on from the neck up that causes that....

noworries · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:52:30 AM »

I don't think they are on anything. First off they have looked like they do from High School. Second they eat unreal healthy. Third, they are very active and physical and lift weights and run all the time. Fourth, they are black with great genetics (unlike Goodrum who is no linger considered black because of his lack of genetics).

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2010, 10:53:32 AM »

Quote from: noworries on July 22, 2010, 10:52:30 AM

I don't think they are on anything. First off they have looked like they do from High School. Second they eat unreal healthy. Third, they are very active and physical and lift weights and run all the time. Fourth, they are black with great genetics (unlike Goodrum who is no linger considered black because of his lack of genetics).

I agree, I don't think either one is on anything. Just a couple of freaks.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:03:27 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 10:32:21 AM

I meant an average NFL player when he was off, still a freak of an athlete......when he was on, he was a beast.....a dominating player. I'm a lifelong Chargers fan and nowhere did I read any legit info that it was for recovery. He lost size, strength, etc... when he came off, so obviously he was taking quite a bit more than a rehab dosage. I really don't care either way, but there is absolutely no question many take it to get a size/strength advantage, otherwise why risk your career?

I hear you, bro. Merrimane is a home-grown product from my neck of the woods here in Maryland. (so that makes me a little partial)

But I don't think the drop off in his play had anything to do with him going off the sauce. Remember, he practically blew his knee apart (the year after his 17 sack season) and like a dumbfuck...wanted to try play the entire season on one good leg. He lasted one game before going on IR and going through entensive rehab. It can take up to two full seasons healing from that type of injury before a player like him can regain his explosiveness.

Let's see what he does in 2010.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:09:42 AM »

Quote from: jtsunami on July 22, 2010, 10:27:59 AM

your telling me you don't think they take steroids to get stronger, specially concocted ones like balco that can't be caught? You know how many millions are on the line?

Sure they do/have.

But not all NFL players take PED's. Some of these guys are just tremendously gifted natural athletes that don't take anything illegal. Some more so than others, hence the reason why some players take PED's to get an edge.

There are legal substances that players ingest that may some day be declared illegal. So being 'natural' is a relative term.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:12:45 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 22, 2010, 11:03:27 AM

I hear you, bro. Merrimane is a home-grown product from my neck of the woods here in Maryland. (so that makes me a little partial)

But I don't think the drop off in his play had anything to do with him going off the sauce. Remember, he practically blew his knee apart (the year after his 17 sack season) and like a dumbfuck...wanted to try play the entire season on one good leg. He lasted one game before going on IR and going through entensive rehab. It can take up to two full seasons healing from that type of injury before a player like him can regain his explosiveness.

Let's see what he does in 2010.

He was awesome, he's a shell of his former self, and I agree with you like I said in the first post, injury is as much to blame for his dropoff as going off the sauce. I hope he comes back at 75% of what he was and he will be fine.