Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes

[Captain Equipoise]

I always thought that the FLASH was a great series as well....told some good stories..but some heroes don't translate well to real life and Flash was kinda like that...the suit was great though

That was probably one of the best shows ever produced!

[noworries]

Robin was a great character.  I worked with both Adam West and Burt Ward (more with Burt).  We did an event for the National Association of Little League (something like that).  Burt and Adam were charging the kids $20 for an autograph (might have been $10).  Everything was money to them.  At the time they were both pretty wealthy.  Adam was a real estate developer in Utah and Burt had a business in LA.  I remember Burt telling me they nothing making Batman (les than $1000 a week).  It was the appearances and other sponsorships they got.  He told me Goodyear was hiss biggest endorsement he ever had.  On a side ntoe: I lived in Kona, Hawaii from 2003 to 2007.  There is a Safeway market there I went to alot.  One fo the cashier girls was not bad looking but kinda weird.  We started talking more and more.  One day she asked me where I grew up.  And then he said he grew up in Malibu.  She started telling me some of the people she knew.  It ended up she was Adam West's daughter.  Long story short, I gave her a photo of me and Adam and Burt to give to her dad to sign.  Well it ended up she quit working at Safeway and I never saw her again. My only Batman tie-in beside Robin.   Okay, that was my "thread relation story"

[NarcissisticDeity]

They wanted an actor to play Batman more than an athlete specifically , Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Keaton wasn't his ideal for the role because he was so lean and only 5'10" , Batman is in the comics was 6'2" athletic , Kane would have been happy with Bale and the produces would have been too because he's a real actor as well

Stallone sorta has a point , I think that and the combo of making woman the lead in action movies sorta put a damper on the male dominated role , a lot of movies post 80s action is very female hero action orientated but a few guys have tried like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Daniel Craig as Bond

[andreisdaman]

They wanted an actor to play Batman more than an athlete specifically , Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Keaton wasn't his ideal for the role because he was so lean and only 5'10" , Batman is in the comics was 6'2" athletic , Kane would have been happy with Bale and the produces would have been too because he's a real actor as well

Stallone sorta has a point , I think that and the combo of making woman the lead in action movies sorta put a damper on the male dominated role , a lot of movies post 80s action is very female hero action orientated but a few guys have tried like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Daniel Craig as Bond

Actually you are right-on about Bob Kane..He wanted Robert Wagner (when he was younger)...in the role of Batman...he felt that Wagner was more suave and would be good as Bruce Wayne

[brooklynbruiser]

Shuddup, Sly, and make movies.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

  

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[Jaime]

I think the decline was based on the fact that more often than not the films were awful. If Hollywood actually casted the right guy for the job instead of famous names, then 5,7 roided to the eyeballs 150 lb stallone isn't going to beat out a 210lb 6'2 athletic young actor is he. Seems like sour grapes that the industry moved on. I respect what he did with Rocky, writing it himself and pushing through getting funding and starring, but the guy is hardly laurence Olivier is he. He should be thankfull that someone of his talents ever found a market in the first place, the same can be said of 90% of action stars.

[Heywood]

Stallone should blame his own very limited acting skills.  That's why he needs a travelbag full of HGH to play a role.

Keaton is a comedian, but can still out-act Sly by far.

[Montague]

Comic nerds were pissed & protested the decision to cast comedian Keaton.
They thought it was going to be another campy parody like the 60’s series.

WB was forced to release an extended trailer to test audiences, which got a standing ovation in some theaters.

[Camel Jockey]

Christian Bale is a real actor with talent.

Stallone is mad is because he is too old and doesn't have the level of talent to play a real character with depth. He never has, that's why he's always played a sauced up hero. Nothing wrong with that either, as movies like the Rocky series are timeless classics.

[Parker]

The flash was absolutely fantastic!

They could totally reboot it today and it would do well.

It's initial problem was that each episode cost 1 Million dollars to produce because of the cost of the speed special effects at the time... Now it wouldn't be jack to do.

Damn 1 mil a episode, back then? Damn, no wonder it was cancelled, or were there other reasons. I remember the episode of him vibrating thru a wall. And I like how they had him eating everything in sight, because his metabolism was so fast.

[tu_holmes]

Damn 1 mil a episode, back then? Damn, no wonder it was cancelled, or were there other reasons. I remember the episode of him vibrating thru a wall. And I like how they had him eating everything in sight, because his metabolism was so fast.

Nope... a million bucks.

I remember reading it in TVguide or something.

For it to stay viable it would have had to win the timeslot every week by a ridiculous amount to warrant the advertising dollars to pay for it, but it just didn't make it.

Like I said, you could do it today for nothing... Hell, they use the same shit almost every week on Smallville on the WB.

[Parker]

Nope... a million bucks.

I remember reading it in TVguide or something.

For it to stay viable it would have had to win the timeslot every week by a ridiculous amount to warrant the advertising dollars to pay for it, but it just didn't make it.

Like I said, you could do it today for nothing... Hell, they use the same shit almost every week on Smallville on the WB.

They should have moved it to a diff timeslot or day.

[Nails]

Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros






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[Lundgren]

Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros






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[NarcissisticDeity]

Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros

Oh boy I forgot about those gems , the Punisher without a skull shirt at bare minimum  I actually enjoyed that Punisher movie more than the subsequent ones for some odd reason , although I think the one with Ray Stevenson looked like the comic book character the most

Dolph talked about the He-man movie and how they threw a bunch of money his way and he thought it would be foolish to turn it down , I mean how much artistic integrity is he going to have? it's not like he was a legitimate actor and to refuse that kinda money is dumb.

[BIG ACH]

Shuddup, Sly, and make movies.

I didn't break the law.... I AM THE LAW!

[Parker]

Oh boy I forgot about those gems , the Punisher without a skull shirt at bare minimum  I actually enjoyed that Punisher movie more than the subsequent ones for some odd reason , although I think the one with Ray Stevenson looked like the comic book character the most

Dolph talked about the He-man movie and how they threw a bunch of money his way and he thought it would be foolish to turn it down , I mean how much artistic integrity is he going to have? it's not like he was a legitimate actor and to refuse that kinda money is dumb.

THey should have just made the He-Man movie a cartoon movie, like Transformers and Gi Joe, and called it a day.

[NarcissisticDeity]

THey should have just made the He-Man movie a cartoon movie, like Transformers and Gi Joe, and called it a day.

How about Street Fighter with Van Damme     

[clued-up]

[DK II]

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A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


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[ThaRealist]

Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


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[Heywood]

Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


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My belief is that Stallone didn't come clean about his drug use until after that little episode in the Australian airport 3 years ago.  I believe the only thing he admitted to was "protein pudding," until he was busted.

If I'm incorrect, please let me know.  

[DK II]

My belief is that Stallone didn't come clean about his drug use until after that little episode in the Australian airport 3 years ago.  I believe the only thing he admitted to was "protein pudding," until he was busted.

If I'm incorrect, please let me know.  

You're correct on this one, but he still hasn't admitted to earlier steroid use. He only admits that he's taking it now.

But hey come on, he's been training with Franco Columbu in the 80s, there's no way he could have been natural. And i don't blame him as well, Stallone has really always worked his ass off, and if you think about it, he always brought a better body than Arnold to his top movies.

Arnold was bigger and all, but in the movies he had always lost some weight and was always smooth, compared to his BB days.

Stallone on the other hand was ripped in some movies, and i would believe that staying in this shape during the filming of a whole movie, doing action scenes and all kind of stuff is actually a lot harder than just keeping the body for a weekend for a BB show.

[Heywood]

You're correct on this one, but he still hasn't admitted to earlier steroid use. He only admits that he's taking it now.

But hey come on, he's been training with Franco Columbu in the 80s, there's no way he could have been natural. And i don't blame him as well, Stallone has really always worked his ass off, and if you think about it, he always brought a better body than Arnold to his top movies.

Arnold was bigger and all, but in the movies he had always lost some weight and was always smooth, compared to his BB days.

Stallone on the other hand was ripped in some movies, and i would believe that staying in this shape during the filming of a whole movie, doing action scenes and all kind of stuff is actually a lot harder than just keeping the body for a weekend for a BB show.

That's not the point.  The guy has been on juice, probably since Rock 2.

Yeah, he trains hard and diets hard.  BFD.....he's still been on juice.  And that makes a big difference.  And if it didn't make any difference, then why lie about it?