Author Topic: Someone's lying: Barack Obama or Barack Obama. - WHICH ONE DO YOU BELIEVE?  (Read 1412 times)

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EDITORIAL: Health care lies
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Now the mandate is a tax Under ObamaCare, most Americans will have to maintain "minimum essential" health care coverage starting in 2014.

But while Congress was working on the health care legislation, Mr. Obama refused to accept the argument that a mandate to buy insurance, enforced by financial penalties, was equivalent to a tax. "I absolutely reject that notion," he said emphatically.

 
    
 



 
Why? Because Mr. Obama was loathe to admit he'd massively violated his campaign pledge not to raise taxes on anyone but the rich, presumably.

In keeping with that approach, even though Congress anticipated a constitutional challenge to the bill and listed in the legislation 10 detailed arguments seeking to show a delegated power to extend the individual mandate, at no point did the drafters cite the taxing power as a source of authority for what they were doing.

Yet The New York Times reported July 16 that, "The Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government's 'power to lay and collect taxes.' Administration officials say the tax argument is a linchpin of their legal case in defense of the health care overhaul and its individual mandate, now being challenged in court by more than 20 states and several private organizations."

In a brief defending the law, the Justice Department says the requirement for people to carry insurance or pay the penalty is "a valid exercise" of Congress's power "to impose taxes." For more than a century, it adds, the Supreme Court has held Congress can tax even activities that it could not reach by using its power to regulate commerce.

Jack M. Balkin, a professor at Yale Law School who supports the new law, told The Times, "The tax argument is the strongest argument for upholding" the individual-coverage requirement. Mr. Obama "has not been honest with the American people about the nature of this bill," Mr. Balkin said last month at a meeting of the American Constitution Society, a left-wing legal organization. "This bill is a tax. Because it's a tax, it's completely constitutional."

In any logical argument, the first step is to acknowledge that "A cannot equal not-A." Without that premise, we enter a realm with no rules, where further discussion becomes pointless.

One of two things is true, here.

Either the mandate is a tax, as the Obama Justice Department now asserts in court, and President Barack Obama lied to the American people -- loudly, firmly, repeatedly, as he worked to get this massive federal power grab enacted -- or else Barack Obama was telling the truth last year, the penalty is not a tax, and the Justice Department (directly answerable to the president) is lying in court today when it asserts no one can challenge the mandate because it falls under the wide-ranging "taxing authority" ... that it's a tax.

Someone's lying: either Barack Obama or Barack Obama.


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LOL would love to hear from straw, lurker, 240 et al on this...

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LOL would love to hear from straw, lurker, 240 et al on this...

Don't hold your breath.

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Bump.

Waiting for the spin.

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Bump.

Waiting for the spin.

So far, no one, not Benny, blacken, mons, 240, KC, Andre, Al Doggity, anyone has been able to spin this lie.

We called it from day 1 and the dolts were so eager to get anything labeled "health care" they ignored the reality of the disaster they were cheering on.   

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So far, no one, not Benny, blacken, mons, 240, KC, Andre, Al Doggity, anyone has been able to spin this lie.

We called it from day 1 and the dolts were so eager to get anything labeled "health care" they ignored the reality of the disaster they were cheering on.   

No need for a spin...I have said many times that only fools believe in or trust politicians. Doesn't matter what country, continent, government type, religious belief yadda yadda... ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS!!!!!!
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No need for a spin...I have said many times that only fools believe in or trust politicians. Doesn't matter what country, continent, government type, religious belief yadda yadda... ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS!!!!!!

Whats worse is they not only dont care about the people they serve,I think many couldnt give a shit if the country fell to an enemy as long as they were promised some power in it.

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Whats worse is they not only dont care about the people they serve,I think many couldnt give a shit if the country fell to an enemy as long as they were promised some power in it.

Along with about 52.7 percent of the population. 

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Almost always, yes.

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/what does that mean?  Are you proud of this asshole in the WH pulling off scams like this?