Author Topic: Dorian said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know"  (Read 136376 times)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #200 on: July 25, 2010, 11:51:48 AM »
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total destruction.

countdown to the excuses!!!


5...4...3...2.....
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #201 on: July 25, 2010, 11:53:19 AM »
it sure isn't a calf contest.

its the only bodypart or physical attribute (along with abs) that dorian actually has an advantage in.

its a total massacre of dorian by ronnie time after time:



Hahahahaha the old lets reduced Dorian down to back and calves ploy  ::)

and still trying to collect parts and you have the nerve to type none of us know how it works? tsk tsk dummy

Dorian KILLS Ronnie in poses NOT parts and he meets ALL of the criteria better in POSES than Ronnie does , which is why you only post most muscular shots and shots of Dorian unflexed and low quality ,  and photoshopped  :-X

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #202 on: July 25, 2010, 11:56:26 AM »
you wish that was all that was judged:

hehehehehe no you dummies judge it by fantasy comparisons where Ronnie's calves are twice the size of Dorian despite being much lighter LMFAO

' total destruction ' what a tool  ;D

see above for Dorian crushing your hero is POSES not parts  ;)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #203 on: July 25, 2010, 12:32:47 PM »
Hahaha youre saying that because in the last 2 pages it has been clearly shown that you dont know shit,
The only thing you know is "ronnie-building".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

QFT even in his go-to pose the judges still look for balanced development , density & dryness , muscular bulk etc the whole criteria and Dorian has this pose covered as well and yes they look for calves too


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #204 on: July 25, 2010, 12:51:13 PM »
Hahah have you ever noticed Hulkster that the pose you continually hid behind, the MM, is also known as the "hides weakness'" pose? hahahahah
You dont know shit, youve never known shit, all you know is that you like Ronnie the best so you try and come up with an argument why hes better, and when posted with the cold hard facts of how BB contests are judged, youre left out cold.

Ronnie never beat Dorian, Ronnie was never as conditioned, dry, and hard as Dorian, and no matter what you try and say, it doesnt change that fact.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #205 on: July 25, 2010, 01:41:38 PM »
QFT even in his go-to pose the judges still look for balanced development , density & dryness , muscular bulk etc the whole criteria and Dorian has this pose covered as well and yes they look for calves too



The thing is ND for  every "good" pic of Dorian there is a better one of Ronnie.

there are plenty of bad pics of both of them

and you'll notice in ALL of the pics...good or bad, Ronnie's quads look like quads, not deformed Chernobyl carrots like Dorians  :)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #206 on: July 25, 2010, 01:44:22 PM »
The thing is ND for  every "good" pic of Dorian there is a better one of Ronnie.

there are plenty of bad pics of both of them
Ronnie had the best MM of all time.
You wont hear any argument from me.
Its because it highlighted his arms and delt separation, but it also hides all of his flaws.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #207 on: July 25, 2010, 01:45:21 PM »
The thing is ND for  every "good" pic of Dorian there is a better one of Ronnie.

there are plenty of bad pics of both of them

NOT better than that pic I posted , sorry sport Dorian's bigger 269lbs in that pic ( Ronnie is 264lbs ) and there is a vast difference between being 269lbs hard and dry than 264 and soft , harder & drier , and still has better balance & proportion , especially not 2000

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #208 on: July 25, 2010, 01:47:01 PM »
Ronnie had the best MM of all time.
You wont hear any argument from me.
Its because it highlighted his arms and delt separation, but it also hides all of his flaws.

He doesn't hide his shit calves and his clear lack of density & dryness or his leg imbalance although it does hide that horrid midsection

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #209 on: July 25, 2010, 01:50:21 PM »
Look at the way Ronnie's chest sinks in and Dorian is punching out and in some shots Ronnie is all arms in this pose goes back to his balance issues

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #210 on: July 25, 2010, 01:51:47 PM »
NOT better than that pic I posted , sorry sport Dorian's bigger 269lbs in that pic ( Ronnie is 264lbs ) and there is a vast difference between being 269lbs hard and dry than 264 and soft , harder & drier , and still has better balance & proportion , especially not 2000

If you think Dorian looks harder and more separated than Ronnie in those two pics you must be drunk or blind....seriously

Weight is irrelevant, BBers are notorious for lying about it, I don't believe a single claim. Do you KNOW how much Dorian weighed or did you read it in a BBing comicbook i mean magazine ?

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #211 on: July 25, 2010, 01:54:01 PM »
He doesn't hide his shit calves and his clear lack of density & dryness or his leg imbalance although it does hide that horrid midsection

Dorian had leg a imbalance too..... small, weird looking quads and calves too big, certainly not "balanced"  :)


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #212 on: July 25, 2010, 01:58:06 PM »
If you think Dorian looks harder and more separated than Ronnie in those two pics you must be drunk or blind....seriously

Weight is irrelevant, BBers are notorious for lying about it, I don't believe a single claim. Do you KNOW how much Dorian weighed or did you read it in a BBing comicbook i mean magazine ?
I wont argue Ronnie wins the MM.
This is how I see it.

1/4 turns- Dorian
FDB - Ronnie
FLS - Dorian
MM - Ronnie hands down
Side Chest - Dorian due to Ronnie looking like a total mismatch of bodyparts.
Side Tri- Dorian no question.
RDB - Ronnie - Debatable. For the sake of argument Ill say Ronnie by muscle separation and biceps.
RLS - Dorian due to thickness, hardness, etc.

Thats 4 to 3 Dorian. IMO, thats how it would go. Not a landslide by any stretch of the imagination, but I think thats a pretty unbiased assessment.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #213 on: July 25, 2010, 01:59:35 PM »
If you think Dorian looks harder and more separated than Ronnie in those two pics you must be drunk or blind....seriously

Weight is irrelevant, BBers are notorious for lying about it, I don't believe a single claim. Do you KNOW how much Dorian weighed or did you read it in a BBing comicbook i mean magazine ?

It's crystal clear who is harder comparing Dorian at 269lbs compared to Ronnie 2000 it's blatant it's not open for discussion , Ronnie's no where near as hard & dry as he was in 98 and 2001 ASC and he's lucky if he's just as hard and dry as Dorian at those contests

weight is irrelevant huh? this is true to an extent because if that were the case Art Atwood would be placing higher , however conditioned muscular bulk is not irrelevant it's in fact evident when two competitors are standing side-by-side the judges who can see for themselves who is carrying more muscular bulk while being hard as nails and dry as hell , there is a vast difference between being 264lbs and soft & holding some water and the same whilst being in razor sharp condition and Dorian was weighed right before that photoshoot and plenty of people were there to verify if you don't believe his claim that's on you

please learn the difference

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #214 on: July 25, 2010, 02:00:13 PM »
Dorian had leg a imbalance too..... small, weird looking quads and calves too big, certainly not "balanced"  :)


? You cant be serious. Dorian had monster legs. One quad head was grossly overdeveloped and hid another head, but they were huge, and perfectly balanced with his calves.
Clearly you are another one of those guys that thinks the quads are supposed to be 6 times the size of the calves lol.

Remember when Haney was going up against Dorian?
They said, wow hes like a Haney with legs!

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #215 on: July 25, 2010, 02:01:31 PM »
Dorian had leg a imbalance too..... small, weird looking quads and calves too big, certainly not "balanced"  :)



says you and you're also the guy who claims Ronnie 2000 is harder than Dorian , it's right in line with what you know or what you don't know

Are Dorian's legs perfect? NOPE are they in much better balance & proportion than Ronnie's YUP

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #216 on: July 25, 2010, 02:04:03 PM »
says you and you're also the guy who claims Ronnie 2000 is harder than Dorian , it's right in line with what you know or what you don't know

Are Dorian's legs perfect? NOPE are they in much better balance & proportion than Ronnie's YUP

That's not even a good shot of Ronnies legs and they are killing Chernobyl quads

Out of scale too....you made Dorian taller than ronnie there  ;)


PPS...you are doing the same thing you call hulkster out for...using a high quality pic of Yates Vs a shitty screen cap of Coleman....and Coleman still wins HaHahaHaha

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #217 on: July 25, 2010, 02:10:17 PM »
That's not even a good shot of Ronnies legs and they are killing Chernobyl quads

Out of scale too....you made Dorian taller than ronnie there  ;)

And that's Dorian at one of his worse years 1994  ;) Ronnie's LEGS quads AND calves are most certainly not ' killing ' Dorians you're fond of overstatements like the rest of the Coleman fanboys

and how the hell did I make Dorian taller?  ???

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #218 on: July 25, 2010, 02:13:50 PM »
That's not even a good shot of Ronnies legs and they are killing Chernobyl quads

Out of scale too....you made Dorian taller than ronnie there  ;)


PPS...you are doing the same thing you call hulkster out for...using a high quality pic of Yates Vs a shitty screen cap of Coleman....and Coleman still wins HaHahaHaha

That's a magazine scan from the Mr Olympia coverage in Flex magazine and it's not high quality and nothing wrong with that Coleman pic , it's not a video screencap of Dorian compared to a compressed youtube video big difference and I was actually bitching at Hulkster for posting flexed pics of Ronnie and relaxed ones of Yates , so you're wrong on all accounts and yes wrong that Ronnie's LEGS quads and CALVES are ' killing ' Dorians  ;)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #219 on: July 25, 2010, 02:20:03 PM »
? You cant be serious. Dorian had monster legs. One quad head was grossly overdeveloped and hid another head, but they were huge, and perfectly balanced with his calves.
Clearly you are another one of those guys that thinks the quads are supposed to be 6 times the size of the calves lol.

Remember when Haney was going up against Dorian?
They said, wow hes like a Haney with legs!

No the fans boy like HUGE quads and if Dorian's quads don't look like Ronnies they're weak and because Ronnie's quads are HUGE his LEGS are better lol wonderful logic these guys employ

Ronnie's quads may very well be better than Dorians , his calves aren't and the proportion between them most certainly is not and Ronnie's grossly oversized glutes with can actually be seen from the front aren't in proportion with his physique and look at Ronnie's hams in profile it's a 90/10 split in favor of the quads this isn't proportion I mean these guys only care about HUGE quads lol

Ronnie has better quads how is that abdominal and thigh compared to Dorian?  ;D

when will they learn it's pose NOT parts that count

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #220 on: July 25, 2010, 02:32:12 PM »
If you think Dorian looks harder and more separated than Ronnie in those two pics you must be drunk or blind....seriously

Weight is irrelevant, BBers are notorious for lying about it, I don't believe a single claim. Do you KNOW how much Dorian weighed or did you read it in a BBing comicbook i mean magazine ?

LOL! love it

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #221 on: July 25, 2010, 02:43:04 PM »
Groink here's a lesson for you this is Ronnie hard as nails and dry as hell ( 2001 ) and Ronnie not ( 2000 ) if you can't ascertain the difference let me know and I'll teach you   ;)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #222 on: July 25, 2010, 03:20:40 PM »
2000 English Grand Prix - High Quality Video

Ronnie looked better here than at the Mr. Olympia that year.

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Someone embed this damn thing.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #223 on: July 25, 2010, 03:26:40 PM »
2000 English Grand Prix - High Quality Video

Ronnie looked better here than at the Mr. Olympia that year.

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Someone embed this damn thing.


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #224 on: July 25, 2010, 03:30:20 PM »
2000 English Grand Prix - High Quality Video

Ronnie looked better here than at the Mr. Olympia that year.

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Looked better, but still not up to par. Holding water, gut was large, but he was full.
I seriously think he was the start of that whole posing style where they just play a song and walk around hitting poses, there isnt even a routine there. Not to mention he cant pose for shit.
Good thing for him he was rediculously big and cut compared to competition. lol. Cause he fucking sucked as a poser. (Note - I really do like Ronnie Coleman, but you gotta be honest the guy couldnt pose for shit, and had some serious flaws)