Dorian said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know"

[NarcissisticDeity]

I thought it was widely known and accepted that coleman was/is the greatest/stronget bodybuilder of all time.

It's also known Ronnie faced Dorian eight times and failed every time , Ronnie was the greatest compared to the guys he beat he never beat Dorian and said he couldn't 

[Hulkster]

ND is so clueless he fails to realize that EVERYONE beat ronnie back when ronnie was losing to dorian .

he was an infant compared to later years:


again, even basic things about the sport these morons can't grasp.

they should really take up playing cards instead.

this is just too intellectually tough for them..

[Nirvana]

they also don't realize that ronnie was a humble dude

"I'm no different than anyone else, just a little bigger"

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND is so clueless he fails to realize that EVERYONE beat ronnie back when ronnie was losing to dorian .

he was an infant compared to later years:


again, even basic things about the sport these morons can't grasp.

they should really take up playing cards instead.

this is just too intellectually tough for them..

Hulkster what you fail to realize moron was Dorian was beating EVERYONE ELSE TOO

When you come up with gems like Ronnie has more detailed calves that Dorian then it's time you pick-up " bodybuilding for dummies "

[NarcissisticDeity]

they also don't realize that ronnie was a humble dude

"I'm no different than anyone else, just a little bigger"

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system


real ' humble '

For Jay to get what I have [the Mr. Olympia title], I think he needs to be reborn and pray for better genetics."

being white sure helped Jay win the Olympia ( 2006 )

yeah real fucking ' humble '

Ronnie was being honest , don't presume to speak for Ronnie

[Palpatine Q]

I just think it's funny that Ronnie went from finishing no better than 6th to winning it the year after Dorian retired.

He went from an also-ran to unbeatable in one year....but there's no politics in the placings 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I just think it's funny that Ronnie went from finishing no better than 6th to winning it the year after Dorian retired.

He went from an also-ran to unbeatable in one year....but there's no politics in the placings 

So what are you saying Ronnie didn't win on the merits of his physique? 

and Ronnie was 9th in 1997 and 1st a year later , but if as you claim there is politics Flex Wheeler would have beat him in 1998 and they did the right thing.

[Palpatine Q]

So what are you saying Ronnie didn't win on the merits of his physique? 

and Ronnie was 9th in 1997 and 1st a year later , but if as you claim there is politics Flex Wheeler would have beat him in 1998 and they did the right thing.

what i'm saying is that he was a lot better than his placings showed early in his career, but he wasn't a name guy so he got fucked.

98 he won fair and square....I was there in a primo seat dead center, he killed everyone by a mile. The politics lie in the fact that Flex was actually ahead at some point in the contest.

[GroinkTropin]

it is, and the pics and vids verify this time after time.

but you have two retards in this thread that do not agree beacause they don't undertand the sport or how physiques are judged. they post the criteria but then don't know how to apply it.

hence why they insist dorian is better but no one else agrees.

its that simple.

You are such a fucking idiot. Let me make this plain and simple for you- there are years in which a prime dorian would have beaten ronnie for the olympia. Does that make sense? You have a habit of saying WELL NOBODY COULD BEAT THIS 1998 RONNIE COLEMAN! Of course not, but he would have beaten a 2000 2001 2004 2005 ronnie for sure. Make sense?

[NarcissisticDeity]

what i'm saying is that he was a lot better than his placings showed early in his career, but he wasn't a name guy so he got fucked.

98 he won fair and square....I was there in a primo seat dead center, he killed everyone by a mile. The politics lie in the fact that Flex was actually ahead at some point in the contest.

Ronnie was a ' name ' he beat Flex in 1996 this was a massive feat , he was placing second in a couple of shows this year , he won his first pro show in 95 by 97 he beat Levrone & Nasser another huge step , his main problem was his conditioning , he competed a lot in these years and his conditioning was hit-or-miss

again if politics were employed Ronnie would have placed second behind Flex and he would have to ' earn ' his turn but he was the better man , I think he was marked down in 98 because of his gyno.

[Hulkster]

98 he won fair and square....I was there in a primo seat dead center, he killed everyone by a mile. The politics lie in the fact that Flex was actually ahead at some point in the contest.

thank you for verifying yet again what everyone knows and the pics and videos verify.

but ND claims the contest was super close and that ronnie barely beat flex because thats what the final number on the scorecard says.

 

are you reading this ND?

care to comment?

can't wait to here the excuses for this one...

[Hulkster]

I just think it's funny that Ronnie went from finishing no better than 6th to winning it the year after Dorian retired

not really funny when you look at the drastic improvement he made:

went from garbage to gold:

[NarcissisticDeity]

thank you for verifying yet again what everyone knows and the pics and videos verify.

but ND claims the contest was super close and that ronnie barely beat flex because thats what the final number on the scorecard says.

 

are you reading this ND?

care to comment?

can't wait to here the excuses for this one...

He has his opinion on the matter and even he admits there is NO right or wrong when it comes to opinions 

1998 was a VERY CLOSE contest pics and videos confirm this as does the final judging tally , THREE points kids that's insanely close you can't argue this.

[NarcissisticDeity]

not really funny when you look at the drastic improvement he made:

went from garbage to gold:

Oh yeah real ' drastic ' more strawmen from you , a single pic and a lot of overstatements

this is 1997 compared to 1999 doesn't look very ' drastic ' does it?  

you can't argue these pictures all you can do is harp on his bigger quads as if this alone constitutes a drastic change , when in fact his waist line grew dramatically   and the striations in his delts dried up ( bigger softer delts i.e. less density )

Ronnie did improve but not to the degree you claim these pics speak volumes and you can't argue to the contrary

[NarcissisticDeity]

I love posting these pics from 1997 they just destroy any argument you can muster about him being ' no where near he was at his prime '

enjoy 

[Hulkster]

1998 was a VERY CLOSE contest pics and videos confirm this as does the final judging tally , THREE points kids that's insanely close you can't argue this.

see what I mean Groink? this guy is completely delusional.

he thinks it was an insanely close contest just because of what the scorecard read.. LMAO..

 

if this is a three point difference, well, I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell LOL

classic ND stupidity.

never gets old.

[Hulkster]

I love posting these pics from 1997 they just destroy any argument you can muster about him being ' no where near he was at his prime '

enjoy  

keep posting them

fact is, he looked good backstage in those shots but never looked that good onstage that year.

you don't seem to understand this?

sort of like dorian. looked way better back stage precontest than he EVER did onstage..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look a LOT like 1999 255lbs same small waist & hips , same awesome taper , same awesome back , same pecs , same gigantic arms and 9th place 

[Hulkster]

not really.

1999 non contest pics blow that out of the water:

[NarcissisticDeity]

keep posting them

fact is, he looked good backstage in those shots but never looked that good onstage that year.

you don't seem to understand this?

sort of like dorian. looked way better back stage precontest than he EVER did onstage..

retard these are ON-STAGE get it? on-stage moron

these are 1997 ON-STAGE compared to 1999 ON-STAGE

fuck me you're stupid

[NarcissisticDeity]

see what I mean Groink? this guy is completely delusional.

he thinks it was an insanely close contest just because of what the scorecard read.. LMAO..

 

if this is a three point difference, well, I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell LOL

classic ND stupidity.

never gets old.

' see someone agree with me ' lmfao how pathetic

oh and the old one pic ' see ' ploy hahahahahaha

I have 1998 on video and it was VERY CLOSE pics and video confirm this as does the scorecard 

keep contradicting history 

[Hulkster]

funny how ND accuses people of posting strawmen arguments and what is he doing now.

fact is, compare these two videos

after you view them, you will shut up about ronnie 99 vs 97 thats for sure.

not even close. like night and day..

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1eyvt_ronnie-coleman-1997-olympia_sport

oh wait, I already posted these and you had to backpeddle because I embarrassed you yet again.

only a fool cannot see the drastic improvements in these videos.

probably why ND can't..

[NarcissisticDeity]

not really.

1999 non contest pics blow that out of the water:

And these trample those  these pics are legendary and no one even cares about those , these pics sent shockwaves through the entire bodybuilding community and ate iconic still today , Ronnie's never had that impact

[Hulkster]

I have 1998 on video and it was VERY CLOSE pics and video confirm this as does the scorecard  

so you are honestly saying that pics confirm it?

LOL which pics are you looking at?

this just keeps getting better and better.

please keeping posting ND. this is the fucking funniest delusional shit I have ever seen.

and thats really saying something given your past history.

[Hulkster]

And these trample those  these pics are legendary and no one even cares about those , these pics sent shockwaves through the entire bodybuilding community and ate iconic still today , Ronnie's never had that impact

nope sorry: dorian owned at his own game: