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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #325 on: July 26, 2010, 06:28:25 PM »
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go look up argument ad populum and then come to your senses.

you should do the same.

because there much validity in appealing to the masses when the masses are made up of experts in the feild. this is a valid case of the ad populum argument that applies quite literally to ronnie vs dorian.

you have been taught this several times, but like everything else in your life, you never pick up anything.

its just the same misinformation over and over again.

you don't learn or correct yourself ever.

its sad. not surprising. but sad.
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #326 on: July 26, 2010, 07:10:42 PM »
Oh boy lol at least your honest in your faulty logic , go look up argument ad populum and then come to your senses.

and who are the millions?  ???  ??? and who appointed you their spokesmen ?  ???

this isn't American Idol , the audience doesn't get to choose who is the winner.
something about an audience chanting "RONNIE RONNIE!" convinces me that the masses love big ron, ask groink I'm sure heard them loud and clear

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #327 on: July 26, 2010, 07:38:36 PM »
something about an audience chanting "RONNIE RONNIE!" convinces me that the masses love big ron, ask groink I'm sure heard them loud and clear
they chanted ronnie in 07 too and look what he got.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #328 on: July 26, 2010, 08:23:44 PM »
Could Dorian beat that?  Hell, if Gunter did, of course!  ;D


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #329 on: July 27, 2010, 01:38:35 AM »
and he has also stated several times that he would win.

but you choose to sweep these quotes under the carpet just like you do with all the pics and videos that show how much better Ronnie was at his peak..

 ::)

no he didn't liar making shit up again huh? so me where he said he would beat Dorian ' several times ' liar

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #330 on: July 27, 2010, 01:51:51 AM »
you should do the same.

because there much validity in appealing to the masses when the masses are made up of experts in the feild. this is a valid case of the ad populum argument that applies quite literally to ronnie vs dorian.

you have been taught this several times, but like everything else in your life, you never pick up anything.

its just the same misinformation over and over again.

you don't learn or correct yourself ever.

its sad. not surprising. but sad.

the masses are most certainly NOT experts they're ignorant morons such as yourself , a POPULAR OPINION doesn't prove a fact it proves it's popular stupid , still having problems grasping the fundamentals aren't you.

the MASSES do NOT judge contests moron the minority does so according to your warped logic any judgement they render is void if the masses 'POPULAR OPINION ' is greater  ::)

there is NO way in fucking hell you went to ' university ' none , you lie about quotes I'm sure you're lying about that too , because you are hands down one of the dumbest people on the internet

and to further showcase just how fucking retarded you are the MASSES all agree 2001 Arnold Classic is Ronnie's best showing , so by your retard logic they're all right , yet YOU being the moron you are still continue to dismiss the real experts ( not fanboys from the interwebs ) and claim all of them are wrong , Ronnie 1999 Mr Olympia is his best  ;) when in fact Ronnie himself has stated 1998 was and more specifically because his conditioning was better

summary - a bunch of fanboys are ' experts ' popular opinion is truth only when it serves YOUR purpose and real experts are all wrong when they contradict your bullshit , like I said there is no way you went to university if by some act of God they needed to fill a mandatory for people with mentally disabilities I tale that back because you certainly fit this category  ;)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #331 on: July 27, 2010, 11:16:21 AM »
Could Dorian beat that?  Hell, if Gunter did, of course!  ;D



Coleman being totally owned by a third-rate bodybuilder. Yates annihilated Gunter in the 90s and Gunter owned Coleman in 2002. Need we say more?

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #332 on: July 27, 2010, 11:47:09 AM »
How many f'n threads you clowns need?

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #333 on: July 27, 2010, 11:52:47 AM »
How many f'n threads you clowns need?

As many as it takes to settle this argument once and for all!  ;D


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #334 on: July 27, 2010, 01:52:53 PM »
As many as it takes to settle this argument once and for all!  ;D



Ronnie settled this , angry fan boys just can't accept his decision  ;D

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #335 on: July 27, 2010, 02:00:09 PM »
Ronnie settled this , angry fan boys just can't accept his decision  ;D

Ronnie never said Dorian was better than him.

What he said was "he would have kept on winning"...those of us with an objective point of view and a brain read between the lines  ;)

he won in 97 which was a joke...so I can see where Ronnie would say that. If he can win with a torn bi and tri, apparently the physique you bring on stage isn't the only factor


BTW when asked if Ronnie would beat him, Dorian said "yeah, i guess he would".....but that doesn't count in ND-land  :P

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #336 on: July 27, 2010, 02:22:26 PM »
Ronnie never said Dorian was better than him.

What he said was "he would have kept on winning"...those of us with an objective point of view and a brain read between the lines  ;)

he won in 97 which was a joke...so I can see where Ronnie would say that. If he can win with a torn bi and tri, apparently the physique you bring on stage isn't the only factor


BTW when asked if Ronnie would beat him, Dorian said "yeah, i guess he would".....but that doesn't count in ND-land  :P

The old semantics game huh? Ronnie never said Dorian wasn't better than him , he didn't say a lot of things but like I said angry fan boys hates that Ronnie conceded to Dorian multiple times , when he said he was robbed by the system when Gunther beat him and Jay Cutler would need to be re-born with better genetics to beat him , yet never uttered anything close to that concerning Dorian ever wonder why?

And you never elaborated on how it's a fact Dorian lost the 1997 Mr Olympia and how your opinion somehow becomes fact when you chastised others for claiming the same , I'm still waiting for your answer Mr Hypocrite  ;)

And the Dorian quote isn't accurate , you omitted the part we he said I guess , I don't know that's indecisive this isn't learn the difference  ;)

Special Ed : Ronnie if Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


no indecision concise and right to the point ( let me preface this by saying just because he says so doesn't mean it's true , however his opinion on the subject sure as fuck trumps any fanboys )

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.





This is even more definitive , Jim: You think so? Ronnie: I know so. and he elaborates on why , Dorian has a big physique ( muscular bulk ) hard ( density ) and he was the man everyone tried to beat , again he references his muscular bulk and he has a lot going for him , not one mention of politics like the 2002 Show of Strength , not one mention of him not being in his league like Jay Cutler

It absolutely kills ANYTHING any fanboy can type and it absolutely kills them to see their hero admit that he feels Dorian would beat him  ;D  after all Dorian is a guy who routinely beat him for years on end and Dorian was the most dominate bodybuilder , Ronnie is very smart for seeing who is the better of the two  ;)


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #337 on: July 27, 2010, 02:31:30 PM »
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Coleman being totally owned by a third-rate bodybuilder

funny, it happened to dorian all the time.

people that placed out of the top 10 owned his ass:

milos placed 13th and he crushes dorian in the relaxed round. LOL

explain this one moron... ::)
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #338 on: July 27, 2010, 02:35:21 PM »
no he didn't liar making shit up again huh? so me where he said he would beat Dorian ' several times ' liar

1. he said it on bodybuilding live posted here a few years ago.

2. he said it on a bb.com interview when asked who would win if he, arnold and dorian stood onstage and competed at their very best. He said he would. the link has been posted many times before.

now, who is making shit up? ::)

new people take note: this is what ND does. lies and hopes that new people who don't know any better will belive him.. ::)
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #339 on: July 27, 2010, 02:44:09 PM »
funny, it happened to dorian all the time.

people that placed out of the top 10 owned his ass:

milos placed 13th and he crushes dorian in the relaxed round. LOL

explain this one moron... ::)

Milos didn't beat Dorian dumb ass , lets entertain for the sake of argument Milos is beating Dorian in the standing relaxed , Gunther beat Ronnie is ALL of his poses and won the contest , so Hulkster fail again  ;)

And please recall stupid , all rounds are physique rounds , meaning is Milos beating Dorian in that pose in muscular bulk? NO is he beating him in balance & proportion? NO is he beating Dorian in density & dryness? NO , he's beating Dorian from an aesthetic point of view but he's not beating Dorian anywhere in the criteria so Hulkster fail yet again  ;)

go learn how contests are judged before you comment or run the risk of being made to look like a complete fool by me  ;D

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #340 on: July 27, 2010, 02:47:42 PM »
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there is NO way in fucking hell you went to ' university ' none

I love how you are so intimidated by educated people like me because you know you are not as smart as we are and it drives you crazy.

its great.
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #341 on: July 27, 2010, 02:50:45 PM »
The old semantics game huh? Ronnie never said Dorian wasn't better than him , he didn't say a lot of things but like I said angry fan boys hates that Ronnie conceded to Dorian multiple times , when he said he was robbed by the system when Gunther beat him and Jay Cutler would need to be re-born with better genetics to beat him , yet never uttered anything close to that concerning Dorian ever wonder why?

And you never elaborated on how it's a fact Dorian lost the 1997 Mr Olympia and how your opinion somehow becomes fact when you chastised others for claiming the same , I'm still waiting for your answer Mr Hypocrite  ;)

And the Dorian quote isn't accurate , you omitted the part we he said I guess , I don't know that's indecisive this isn't learn the difference  ;)

Special Ed : Ronnie if Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


no indecision concise and right to the point ( let me preface this by saying just because he says so doesn't mean it's true , however his opinion on the subject sure as fuck trumps any fanboys )

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.





This is even more definitive , Jim: You think so? Ronnie: I know so. and he elaborates on why , Dorian has a big physique ( muscular bulk ) hard ( density ) and he was the man everyone tried to beat , again he references his muscular bulk and he has a lot going for him , not one mention of politics like the 2002 Show of Strength , not one mention of him not being in his league like Jay Cutler

It absolutely kills ANYTHING any fanboy can type and it absolutely kills them to see their hero admit that he feels Dorian would beat him  ;D  after all Dorian is a guy who routinely beat him for years on end and Dorian was the most dominate bodybuilder , Ronnie is very smart for seeing who is the better of the two  ;)



Well that's because Ronnie gives an honest answer to the question, whereas Dorian is a douche with a VERY high opinion of himself.

That's why he's always getting his eyes blackened  :D

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #342 on: July 27, 2010, 02:55:22 PM »
1. he said it on bodybuilding live posted here a few years ago.

2. he said it on a bb.com interview when asked who would win if he, arnold and dorian stood onstage and competed at their very best. He said he would. the link has been posted many times before.

now, who is making shit up? ::)

new people take note: this is what ND does. lies and hopes that new people who don't know any better will belive him.. ::)

BULLSHIT notice as usual you can't back up a single fucking claim  ;)

the bb.com interview he NEVER once says he would beat them , you have comprehension issues well documented on this site , when posed the question he NEVER once said he would win liar
it's very simple to own you dummy  ;)

Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?

R.C. Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.



NO WHERE does he say he would beat Dorian liar then admits he couldn't beat them in their hay-day , when was Dorian's hey-day? the same as Ronnies so in essence he's stating yet again he couldn't beat him  ;D

how pathetic can you get? ' new people please side with me I'm begging , please ' Mr made-up quotes , Mr Photoshopped pics , Mr Ronnie said way back that he would beat Dorian yet you can provide any source and this is the absolute first time you EVER claimed that and if it were true you would have been using that all along liar  ;)

new people please side with me Ronnie doesn't lmfao

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #343 on: July 27, 2010, 02:59:38 PM »
Well that's because Ronnie gives an honest answer to the question, whereas Dorian is a douche with a VERY high opinion of himself.

That's why he's always getting his eyes blackened  :D

When you're the best it's not arrogance it's confidence  ;) Dorian has great respect for Ronnie 0 and Haney )  and vice-a-versa

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #344 on: July 27, 2010, 03:04:09 PM »
BULLSHIT notice as usual you can't back up a single fucking claim  ;)

the bb.com interview he NEVER once says he would beat them , you have comprehension issues well documented on this site , when posed the question he NEVER once said he would win liar
it's very simple to own you dummy  ;)

Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?

R.C. Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.



NO WHERE does he say he would beat Dorian liar then admits he couldn't beat them in their hay-day , when was Dorian's hey-day? the same as Ronnies so in essence he's stating yet again he couldn't beat him  ;D

how pathetic can you get? ' new people please side with me I'm begging , please ' Mr made-up quotes , Mr Photoshopped pics , Mr Ronnie said way back that he would beat Dorian yet you can provide any source and this is the absolute first time you EVER claimed that and if it were true you would have been using that all along liar  ;)

new people please side with me Ronnie doesn't lmfao

He was being respectful you douche...you seriously think a prime Ronnie Coleman wouldn't beat Arnold and Haney?

it's funny how myopic you are when it comes to this stuff.....it's obvious what he was doing there, and you know damn well, but god forbid you actually say it on getbig  ::)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #345 on: July 27, 2010, 03:07:44 PM »
I can not believe you nut sakcs are still arguing over whos better  ::)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #346 on: July 27, 2010, 03:10:14 PM »
I love how you are so intimidated by educated people like me because you know you are not as smart as we are and it drives you crazy.

its great.

Educated? not in terms of debate or how to form a cognizant informed opinion on the subject of competitive bodybuilding. Your use of the most basic and faulty logic proves your ignorance, you use almost every faulty argument and you compliment them with enhanced photos and outright made up quotes and there always the tinge of bitterness from your ad hominem attacks

the difference between you and I Hulkster is , you've already conceded I'm smart and you will never hear me say that about you , because you're not  ;)








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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #347 on: July 27, 2010, 03:10:37 PM »
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it's funny how myopic you are when it comes to this stuff.....it's obvious what he was doing there, and you know damn well, but god forbid you actually say it on getbig  

yup. ND fears educated people and he fears admitting what we all know to be true.
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #348 on: July 27, 2010, 03:15:35 PM »
Calves, decent midsection, conditioning?

His calves are actually okay here. Not Yates level, but not too small, and he doesn't need better calves than Yates to be better than Yates. Conditioning isn't a body part, and I wouldn't say he's "missing" a midsection, although no it's not the greatest here. Although pretty good in a number of shots. Interesting this thread creates such a stir even though 2000 is considered Ronnie's 4th best year? 5th best year?









Recall Nasser used to dwarf Dorian from the front.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #349 on: July 27, 2010, 03:16:35 PM »
He was being respectful you douche...you seriously think a prime Ronnie Coleman wouldn't beat Arnold and Haney?

it's funny how myopic you are when it comes to this stuff.....it's obvious what he was doing there, and you know damn well, but god forbid you actually say it on getbig  ::)

Where did I ever claim he wasn't being respectful? I'm proving my point where Hulkster claimed he would beat Dorian and that's an outright lie and once again Mr poor comprehension skills please find me where I ever once claimed he couldn't beat Haney or Arnold , you my friend are drawing your own conclusions

he was in fact being diplomatic however he did NOT say he would beat Dorian , that's a lie.