Dorian said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know"

[Palpatine Q]

Someone who is fit to judge BTW 

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .



QFT

Ha Ha Ha...yeah, Bev isn't biased at all...Dorian is only buddies with her husband and trained at their gym in Syosset, NY( where i saw him in person) to get ready for the O. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I said he received a gift..you idiot. IMO he did, in fact, that's pretty much the universal consensus

I didn't say he "lost" moron. you are funny when you try and prove a point even though you are 100% wrong....it's like the fact that you are just making shit up doesn't even cross your mind

the point still stands hypocrite when did your opinion and the ' universal consensus ' become a fact? when? and who are you to speak for the masses?

when you say he received a gift you're implying he should have lost.

again you're a hypocrite for claiming it's a fact when you were just bitching about peoples opinions are not facts.

[Hulkster]

the point still stands hypocrite when did your opinion and the ' universal consensus ' become a fact?

as soon as dorian stepped onstage.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ha Ha Ha...yeah, Bev isn't biased at all...Dorian is only buddies with her husband and trained at their gym in Syosset, NY( where i saw him in person) to get ready for the O. 

So she can't separate her personal feelings from the judging criteria? I think that's how they choose judges based on a history of being impartial and Steve FYI judged Dorian in one contest in his career and placed him BEHIND Momo for second , so I guess he can't be impartial either 

you're not revealing anything new there sport , this is old info.

[NeoSeminole]

Boom!

[NarcissisticDeity]

as soon as dorian stepped onstage.

It was all over 

Dorian was so far ahead of the competition that even at his worse he still beat everyone , unlike Ronnie who nearly lost at his best and did lose to Gunther and Jay lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Boom!

    

[Palpatine Q]

the point still stands hypocrite when did your opinion and the ' universal consensus ' become a fact? when? and who are you to speak for the masses?

when you say he received a gift you're implying he should have lost.

again you're a hypocrite for claiming it's a fact when you were just bitching about peoples opinions are not facts.

you said he shouldn't have won yourself...what point are you trying to make, you nitwit ?

If he SHOULDN'T have won...but he DID, a logical person can only conclude that he didn't win it with his physique, and was "given" the title.

oh wait...that's right...he "gutted out' the victory with his "iron will"  

 HaHaHaHaHahaHaaa....did he "will' the judges to ignore the fact that his left arm was completely mangled and hanging on by a thread

I can't "prove' that politics exist in the sport but i would think anyone with a brain knows they do, are you really that naive ??


I never knew there was a "willpower round"  

[NarcissisticDeity]

you said he shouldn't have won yourself...what point are you trying to make, you nitwit ?

If he SHOULDN'T have won...but he DID, a logical person can only conclude that he didn't win it with his physique, and was "given" the title.

oh wait...that's right...he "gutted out' the victory with his "iron will"  

 HaHaHaHaHahaHaaa....did he "will' the judges to ignore the fact that his left arm was completely mangled and hanging on by a thread

I can't "prove' that politics exist in the sport but i would think anyone with a brain knows they do, are you really that naive ??


I never knew there was a "willpower round"  

I'll ask again when did your opinion become fact? stop avoiding the question. you're a hypocrite for complaining about something you just did

[NeoSeminole]

 

look at the color trunks Ronnie is wearing in your pic, then look at what he's wearing in mine. Now quick, look down then back at me. I'm on a horse

[Palpatine Q]

I'll ask again when did your opinion become fact? stop avoiding the question. you're a hypocrite for complaining about something you just did

I just answered it.

IMO it is a fact that politics exist, like i said, it can't be "proven" but ask anyone who is involved with the sport and see what they say...except Bob Chick.  he's just as much of a thick headed buffoon as you.

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian never encountered anything like this

[NarcissisticDeity]

look at the color trunks Ronnie is wearing in your pic, then look at what he's wearing in mine. Now quick, look down then back at me. I'm on a horse

It's the same contest 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I just answered it.

IMO it is a fact that politics exist, like i said, it can't be "proven" but ask anyone who is involved with the sport and see what they say...except Bob Chick.  he's just as much of a thick headed buffoon as you.

There you go again in your ' opinion ' even according to you opinions are not fact but yet here you are trying to pass it off as one , after bitching at others for doing the same , it's valid when you want it to be hypocrite 

your opinion is NOT a fact and don't bitch at people for wrongly assuming they were doing the same

[NeoSeminole]

It's the same contest

for someone who professes to be knowledgeable about bodybuilding and and holds himself above other posters, I'm surprised you don't know how a physique can change on the day of the contest from prejudging to finals

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian never encountered anything like this

A guy who weighed 285lbs with inferior conditioning? yes he did Nasser many times  and Fux and Ian Harrison 

[NarcissisticDeity]

for someone who professes to be knowledgeable about bodybuilding and and holds himself above other posters, I'm surprised you don't know how a physique can change on the day of the contest from prejudging to finals

Did I claim anything to the contrary? I don't recall that post. all I said it was the same contest. and that's a fact

[Palpatine Q]

There you go again in your ' opinion ' even according to you opinions are not fact but yet here you are trying to pass it off as one , after bitching at others for doing the same , it's valid when you want it to be hypocrite  

your opinion is NOT a fact and don't bitch at people for wrongly assuming they were doing the same

Stop whining over the minutiae of what I'm saying and ignoring the point.

Okay...I should have put an "IMO" in that sentence like I normally do, don't have a cow.


Cue  ND crowing for six pages that he "got me" while ignoring what I'm saying. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Stop whining over the minutiae of what I'm saying and ignoring the point.

Okay...I should have put an "IMO" in that sentence like I normally do, don't have a cow.

I'm not having a cow just showing how you're being a hypocrite. You can't in good conscious call people out ( wrongly ) on things you're guilty of

[NeoSeminole]

same 'contest'

[NarcissisticDeity]

same 'contest'

Dorian's conditioning is slaughtering Ronnie's , his density & dryness are on another level , Ronnie would need to be 247lbs to compare in this department.

and it's insane how far off he was from 1998/2001 in terms of crisp muscularity

[NeoSeminole]

A guy who weighed 285lbs with inferior conditioning? yes he did Nasser many times and Fux and Ian Harrison

eh? all you did was mention the names of guys with inferior conditioning than 03 Ronnie and worse backs to boot

[Palpatine Q]

Dorian's conditioning is slaughtering Ronnie's , his density & dryness are on another level , Ronnie would need to be 247lbs to compare in this department.

and it's insane how far off he was from 1998/2001 in terms of crisp muscularity

not in my book...Ronnie's sheer mass, muscularity and vastly superior shape more than make up the slight difference in conditioning.  he's not human.

his arms fucking destroy Dorians there, it's embarrassing

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian's conditioning is slaughtering Ronnie's , his density & dryness are on another level , Ronnie would need to be 247lbs to compare in this department.

folds of skin on the lower back, asymmetrical traps and lat attachments, torn muscles, wider midsection, less muscular bulk, and inferior conditioning in the glutes - you're going to have to try harder if you want to impress anyone besides say "his conditioning is slaughtering so and so's..."

[Palpatine Q]

folds of skin on the lower back, asymmetrical traps and lat attachments, torn muscles, wider midsection, less muscular bulk, and inferior conditioning in the glutes - you're going to have to try harder if you want to impress anyone besides say "his conditioning is slaughtering so and so's..."

ND  needs to get his eyes checked if he thinks the pic of Dorian is better than the pic of Ronnie...Coleman looks unreal there