Author Topic: Dorian said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know"  (Read 136730 times)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #450 on: July 27, 2010, 07:52:12 PM »
You just outed yourself lmfao who said anything about sex? I said you dreamed about touching it lol how you came to the conclusion it was sex related is beyond me  :-X  :-X
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #451 on: July 27, 2010, 08:02:25 PM »
yup. and the visuals prove it time and time again.

you act like the extra pounds dorian had in 97 were muscle.

have you seen his midsection? thats where most of the poundage is.

ronnie is still thicker even at 247:

ND is now on suicide watch:


Ok Mr Proof, explain this paper thin Bodybuilder.  ???
But wait, I thought Ronnie was supposed to be super thick front to rear. Oh wait, he wasnt, he just had super round muscles and separations making him appear thick when viewed head on from the back. Epic Hulkster fail.
ND there is another pic of Ronnie and Jay in 03 from the side and up in the air  that shows how thin Ronnie was in 03 as well. Its crazy, he just disappears.
Hulkster on suicide watch. ::)
ZOMG, I thought ronnie was supposed to be thick?!

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #452 on: July 27, 2010, 08:29:39 PM »
You like him missed the point completely , please show me where I said he's winning the pose? I posted the pic to show the night & day difference in conditioning of Dorian at his worse and Ronnie what some people consider his best

and my point stands

So you said "Dorian is slaughtering Ronnie" because you think Ronnie was better in that pose....ok  ;)  ::)

You suffer from "I'm always right-itis" in a very bad way

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #453 on: July 27, 2010, 08:51:22 PM »
So you said "Dorian is slaughtering Ronnie" because you think Ronnie was better in that pose....ok  ;)  ::)

You suffer from "I'm always right-itis" in a very bad way
I think he was saying Dorian is slaughtering him in Conditioning and balance or whatever he said.
Probably was trying to highlight how much better conditioning Dorian had at his very worst.
Which, regardless of weather you think he should have won in 97 (I dont), you have to admit his conditioning was still spot on.
It was just the biceps, tricep, leg tear, gut, etc. lol.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #454 on: July 27, 2010, 10:01:57 PM »
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But wait, I thought Ronnie was supposed to be super thick front to rear. Oh wait, he wasnt, he just had super round muscles and separations making him appear thick when viewed head on from the back. Epic Hulkster fail.

LOL listen to this new guy speak ::).

no genious. he had super round muscles that caused him to be thick from front to rear, not made him appear that way when he was actually thin:

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you morons have so much to learn..you are veterans with a novice's knowledge.


thats depressing.
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #455 on: July 27, 2010, 10:33:19 PM »
Ronnie is still the GOAT with 8 victorys.
However, greatest Olympia physique evar IMHO (and many reputable others including judges, competitors, experts and fans) belongs to this man.




I will admit Dorians MM is underwhelming from the front... but from the side....
Roonie is not the GOAT, he tied Haney with 8. until someone gets 9.....

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #456 on: July 27, 2010, 10:35:42 PM »
I still can't believe it every time one of these topics comes up. Does this happen on any other forums? maybe the stormfront bodybuilding sub-board?  ::)
Christ, yates has a thick, impressive physique but coleman literally makes him look like hes from a completely different era

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #457 on: July 28, 2010, 01:27:48 AM »
yup. and the visuals prove it time and time again.

you act like the extra pounds dorian had in 97 were muscle.

have you seen his midsection? thats where most of the poundage is.

ronnie is still thicker even at 247:

ND is now on suicide watch:



Once again you're trying to ascertain who is thicker via 2D pictures it shows how stupid you are.

but you're always good for a laugh  ;D Ronnie's back is thicker despite being 23 pounds lighter  ;D lmao

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #458 on: July 28, 2010, 01:30:40 AM »
So you said "Dorian is slaughtering Ronnie" because you think Ronnie was better in that pose....ok  ;)  ::)

You suffer from "I'm always right-itis" in a very bad way

in conditioning , you like to draw your own conclusions and argue a point no one made.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #459 on: July 28, 2010, 01:38:01 AM »
LOL listen to this new guy speak ::).

no genious. he had super round muscles that caused him to be thick from front to rear, not made him appear that way when he was actually thin:

 ::)

you morons have so much to learn..you are veterans with a novice's knowledge.


thats depressing.

round muscles that cause him to be thick? WTF  ??? thick muscle causes muscle to be thick the shape is irrelevant to the thickness dumbass , but what can I expect from a guy who thinks he can tell who is thicker via a 2d picture  ;D


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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #460 on: July 28, 2010, 01:50:32 AM »
Hulkster makes a claim Ronnie crushes it we all laugh at how retarded Hulkster looks  ;D

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.



Hulkster owned once again by Ronnie and FYI this quote was from 2003  ;)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #461 on: July 28, 2010, 03:49:50 AM »
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Christ, yates has a thick, impressive physique but coleman literally makes him look like hes from a completely different era
 

 

yup. its not even close. ronnie raised the bar far above dorian.

are you reading this nuthuggers? ::)
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #462 on: July 28, 2010, 07:23:02 AM »
Hulkster makes a claim Ronnie crushes it we all laugh at how retarded Hulkster looks  ;D

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.



Hulkster owned once again by Ronnie and FYI this quote was from 2003  ;)

That's because he can't see his own back  :D

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2010, 07:23:35 AM »
I still can't believe it every time one of these topics comes up. Does this happen on any other forums? maybe the stormfront bodybuilding sub-board?  ::)
Christ, yates has a thick, impressive physique but coleman literally makes him look like hes from a completely different era
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #464 on: July 28, 2010, 08:12:30 AM »
LOL listen to this new guy speak ::).

no genious.


Nice self ownage.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #465 on: July 28, 2010, 08:37:28 AM »
1998 Ronnie Coleman > any version of Dorian Yates.

On the other hand, I know conditioning is very important and that judges value dry & hard muscle mass a lot, but here is the thing: why is this dryness a lot more important over other aspects of the criteria? Why would Dorian's dryness be enough to beat a 1999 or a 2003 version of Ronnie?

Did Rich Gaspari ever beat Lee Haney despite having better conditioning? NO.

Same idea could apply here.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #466 on: July 28, 2010, 08:39:43 AM »
1998 Ronnie Coleman > any version of Dorian Yates.

On the other hand, I know conditioning is very important and that judges value dry & hard muscle mass a lot, but here is the thing: why is this dryness a lot more important over other aspects of the criteria? Why would Dorian's dryness be enough to beat a 1999 or a 2003 version of Ronnie?

Did Rich Gaspari ever beat Lee Haney despite having better conditioning? NO.

Same idea could apply here.
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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #467 on: July 28, 2010, 08:46:03 AM »
1998 Ronnie Coleman > any version of Dorian Yates.

On the other hand, I know conditioning is very important and that judges value dry & hard muscle mass a lot, but here is the thing: why is this dryness a lot more important over other aspects of the criteria? Why would Dorian's dryness be enough to beat a 1999 or a 2003 version of Ronnie?

Did Rich Gaspari ever beat Lee Haney despite having better conditioning? NO.

Same idea could apply here.

Most likely as his 2001 AC would. '99 O maybe but not sure against '93 Dorian or '95 (perfect conditioning but first tears were already noticeable though he covered it up nicely).
2003 Ronnie: overated though impressive. But Ronnie's fans will say that Dorian also had poor showings ('94 and '97).
Somehow, Ronnie really hit his apex on a couple of occasions. Before the tears, Dorian was more complete but he didn't nail his conditioning as great as he did in his post tear years. The wow factor is Ronnie's though and I don't think anyone matched his '98 O.  

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #468 on: July 28, 2010, 08:53:05 AM »
Most likely as his 2001 AC would. '99 O maybe but not sure against '93 Dorian or '95 (perfect conditioning but first tears were already noticeable though he covered it up nicely).
2003 Ronnie: overated though impressive. But Ronnie's fans will say that Dorian also had poor showings ('94 and '97).
Somehow, Ronnie really hit his apex on a couple of occasions. Before the tears, Dorian was more complete but he didn't nail his conditioning as great as he did in his post tear years. The wow factor is Ronnie's though and I don't think anyone matched his '98 O. 

Agreed.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #469 on: July 28, 2010, 10:01:49 AM »
1998 Ronnie Coleman > any version of Dorian Yates.

On the other hand, I know conditioning is very important and that judges value dry & hard muscle mass a lot, but here is the thing: why is this dryness a lot more important over other aspects of the criteria? Why would Dorian's dryness be enough to beat a 1999 or a 2003 version of Ronnie?

Did Rich Gaspari ever beat Lee Haney despite having better conditioning? NO.

Same idea could apply here.

Who said conditioning was more important? I've been stressing the point that NONE of the criteria alone trumps any other part , it's the whole package that determines the winner. however with all things being ' equal ' the determining factor is who is the better conditioned athlete

Gaspari had the conditioning he didn't have the structure of size to compete with Haney , Dorian had all that and beat Haney in the muscularity round in his third pro show ever and his first Olympia despite being 10lbs lighter

fast forward to Ronnie and Dorian , Dorian has the size , structure and conditioning in his favor as well as balance and posing

1998 wouldn't be nearly enough to topple Yates it really wouldn't especially not with bitch-tits

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #470 on: July 28, 2010, 10:04:20 AM »
Nice self ownage.



lmfao typical Hulkster this is the guy claiming to be ' educated '

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #471 on: July 28, 2010, 10:15:25 AM »
yup. its not even close. ronnie raised the bar far above dorian.

are you reading this nuthuggers? ::)

Another one of your empty claims , seeing you posted 1999 how did he ' raised the bar far above dorian ' ? how another just flat-out blanket statement with no elaboration

did Ronnie 1999 raise the bar in terms of muscular bulk compared to what Dorian exhibited? NO 1999 he was 257lbs , Dorian was 257lbs in 93 and 260lbs in 1995 so when you typed he raised the bar far above Dorian it's a lie

Did he raise the bar as far as conditioning goes? short answer hell NO especially NOT in 1999 which was a step behind 1998 and 2001 , so again another lie on your behalf , did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of density & dryness while carrying more muscular bulk? NO

Did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of muscle balance & proportion? Ummmmmm NO again  his flaws in this area became more pronounced the heavier he became , so when you type he raised the bar above Dorian it's another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar in terms of posing & presentation compared to Dorian? NO his posing was pathetic , so when you say he raised the bar it's yet another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar above Dorian in terms of competition he faced? NO all guys that Dorian dominated who when past their primes gave Ronnie a handful of trouble

So when you type that he raised the bar beyond what Dorian did and raised it FAR beyond it's a blatant lie and nothing more than a gross overstatement.

Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 while being hard as nails and dry as hell with better balance & proportion and he was a better poser who faced stiffer competition closer to their primes , SO Ronnie raised nothing , Ronnie played follow Dorian's leader

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #472 on: July 28, 2010, 10:16:31 AM »
That's because he can't see his own back  :D

yawn never heard that one before  ::)

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #473 on: July 28, 2010, 10:30:46 AM »
Another one of your empty claims , seeing you posted 1999 how did he ' raised the bar far above dorian ' ? how another just flat-out blanket statement with no elaboration

did Ronnie 1999 raise the bar in terms of muscular bulk compared to what Dorian exhibited? NO 1999 he was 257lbs , Dorian was 257lbs in 93 and 260lbs in 1995 so when you typed he raised the bar far above Dorian it's a lie

Did he raise the bar as far as conditioning goes? short answer hell NO especially NOT in 1999 which was a step behind 1998 and 2001 , so again another lie on your behalf , did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of density & dryness while carrying more muscular bulk? NO

Did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of muscle balance & proportion? Ummmmmm NO again  his flaws in this area became more pronounced the heavier he became , so when you type he raised the bar above Dorian it's another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar in terms of posing & presentation compared to Dorian? NO his posing was pathetic , so when you say he raised the bar it's yet another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar above Dorian in terms of competition he faced? NO all guys that Dorian dominated who when past their primes gave Ronnie a handful of trouble

So when you type that he raised the bar beyond what Dorian did and raised it FAR beyond it's a blatant lie and nothing more than a gross overstatement.

Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 while being hard as nails and dry as hell with better balance & proportion and he was a better poser who faced stiffer competition closer to their primes , SO Ronnie raised nothing , Ronnie played follow Dorian's leader

I generally agree with you even though I think that Ronnie at his best would have beaten Dorian at his best, considering that I think Ronnie did hit his best possible and somehow Dorian only came close to the best he could have been.

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Re: Could Dorian beat this?
« Reply #474 on: July 28, 2010, 10:45:49 AM »
Another one of your empty claims , seeing you posted 1999 how did he ' raised the bar far above dorian ' ? how another just flat-out blanket statement with no elaboration

did Ronnie 1999 raise the bar in terms of muscular bulk compared to what Dorian exhibited? NO 1999 he was 257lbs , Dorian was 257lbs in 93 and 260lbs in 1995 so when you typed he raised the bar far above Dorian it's a lie

Did he raise the bar as far as conditioning goes? short answer hell NO especially NOT in 1999 which was a step behind 1998 and 2001 , so again another lie on your behalf , did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of density & dryness while carrying more muscular bulk? NO

Did Ronnie surpass Dorian in terms of muscle balance & proportion? Ummmmmm NO again  his flaws in this area became more pronounced the heavier he became , so when you type he raised the bar above Dorian it's another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar in terms of posing & presentation compared to Dorian? NO his posing was pathetic , so when you say he raised the bar it's yet another lie

Did Ronnie raise the bar above Dorian in terms of competition he faced? NO all guys that Dorian dominated who when past their primes gave Ronnie a handful of trouble

So when you type that he raised the bar beyond what Dorian did and raised it FAR beyond it's a blatant lie and nothing more than a gross overstatement.

Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 while being hard as nails and dry as hell with better balance & proportion and he was a better poser who faced stiffer competition closer to their primes , SO Ronnie raised nothing , Ronnie played follow Dorian's leader


Meltdown of biblical proportions.


weight, smeight....it's all about what they look like. Ronnie looks like he's from another planet because of the way he is put together, far superior to the keg.

And also a pro BBers weight claim is utter bullshit 99.9999999% of the time.....but you keep pulling your facts and quotes from your favorite BBing comicbooks mags....we'll keep laughing at you  ;) ;D :) ;)