Dorian said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know"

[NarcissisticDeity]

they both had guts when they let them hang, and the both had tight midsections when flexed...please stfu already.

Dorian had better abdominals as far as the abs themselves, Ronnie had a naturally smaller waist and better taper.  kind of a draw IMO

I know they both had guts when they let them hang , you'll get no argument from me on that subject.

Dorian had a better ab-thigh pose IMO

[NarcissisticDeity]

how is Ronnie's gut at 301 lbs...



any worse than Dorian's at 257 lbs?

247lbs 

[Hulkster]

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every time ND posts the massive gut at the AC it verifies that Ronnie was in better shape at the 99 O. with more fullness and much less of a gut.

[Hulkster]

don't know why this is an argument.

when both ronnie and dorian weighed 257 and at their respective bests, (99 olympia and 93 olympia) Ronnie's gut was much smaller than dorian's.

way smaller. in fact, it was so small it was never even mentioned in ND's precious Flex magazine until the 2000 Olympia when it ballooned up and Kevin kept pointing at it..

[Hulkster]

^
no contest there.

top is a classical physique.

bottom is a blocky powerlifter fridge type ugly mess

 

[Hulkster]

alright nuthuggers, I am off on a fishing trip.

I will continue to own your sorry asses in a week.

[Shockwave]

how is Ronnie's gut at 301 lbs...



any worse than Dorian's at 257 lbs?

Because Ronnies about 30 lbs off from actually being in contest shape. He could get away with that shit cause everyone else sucked then, but he looked like shit from a conditioning standpoint, plain and simple.
Hell, his trademark striated glutes are almost nonexistant in your photos, and he HAS to be way the fuck off in his conditioning for those to become blurred. He has those fucking things 20 lbs from contest weight, so that should tell you something. And Neo, youre just being stupid trying to provoke ND and to get him to crack and you know it, posting unflexed shots vs flexed shots, and claiming the random shit you claim. Look, we get it, you think size trumps everything else, and it doesnt, not when you come to the show looking like a guest poser should.  

[Nirvana]

alright nuthuggers, I am off on a fishing trip.

I will continue to own your sorry asses in a week.

in other words thread over

[johnny1]

Dorian would look like an amateur next to King Ronnie

Yes very impressive size wise, massive muscle bellys etc... the Conditioning aspect would be the Telling factor that could work against Ronnie V Yates, its all speculation @ best.

[NarcissisticDeity]

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every time ND posts the massive gut at the AC it verifies that Ronnie was in better shape at the 99 O. with more fullness and much less of a gut.

no if you could get ANYONE to agree with you and by anyone I mean that matters not like-minded ( i.e. feeble minded ) people who mistakenly believe that ' extra ' fullness is dense muscle and the gut? oppppssssss forgot about his gut in 99 huh? well let me remind you 

[NarcissisticDeity]

in other words thread over

in other words trolling over

for now

[NarcissisticDeity]

Because Ronnies about 30 lbs off from actually being in contest shape. He could get away with that shit cause everyone else sucked then, but he looked like shit from a conditioning standpoint, plain and simple.
Hell, his trademark striated glutes are almost nonexistant in your photos, and he HAS to be way the fuck off in his conditioning for those to become blurred. He has those fucking things 20 lbs from contest weight, so that should tell you something. And Neo, youre just being stupid trying to provoke ND and to get him to crack and you know it, posting unflexed shots vs flexed shots, and claiming the random shit you claim. Look, we get it, you think size trumps everything else, and it doesnt, not when you come to the show looking like a guest poser should.  

He cracked if anyone , he's back in another Yates thread begging for my attention posting unflexed pics of Dorian to ones of a flexed Ronnie and I cracked  by pointing it out , great logic 

[NeoSeminole]

Because Ronnies about 30 lbs off from actually being in contest shape. He could get away with that shit cause everyone else sucked then, but he looked like shit from a conditioning standpoint, plain and simple. Hell, his trademark striated glutes are almost nonexistant in your photos, and he HAS to be way the fuck off in his conditioning for those to become blurred. He has those fucking things 20 lbs from contest weight, so that should tell you something.

then Dorian in 95 was 20 lbs off from actually being in contest shape b/c his separated quads were nonexistant. He has to be way the fuck off in his conditioning for those to become blurred.





as for Ronnie, while I agree he didn't have the same conditioning as the 01 ASC, he was nowhere near out of shape as you say. No matter how hard you or ND try to exaggerate his conditioning, it's easily refuted by pics showing Ronnie's feathered lats and shredded lower body

[Hulkster]

no if you could get ANYONE to agree with you and by anyone I mean that matters not like-minded ( i.e. feeble minded ) people who mistakenly believe that ' extra ' fullness is dense muscle and the gut? oppppssssss forgot about his gut in 99 huh? well let me remind you  

STILL SMALL COMPARED TO THE AC!

 

what are you going to say now?

[NarcissisticDeity]

then Dorian in 95 was 20 lbs off from actually being in contest shape b/c his separated quads were nonexistant. He has to be way the fuck off in his conditioning for those to become blurred.


as for Ronnie, while I agree he didn't have the same conditioning as the 01 ASC, he was nowhere near out of shape as you say. No matter how hard you or ND try to exaggerate his conditioning, it's easily refuted by pics showing Ronnie's feathered lats and shredded lower body

oppps someone forgot that Dorian TORE his quad in 94 and this would explained that and the best part is you are actually saying that Dorian in what is considered one of his best contest showings is out of shape by 20lbs which again contradicts reality

and there is NO exaggerated claims about his conditioning , it sucks compared to 01 and to Dorian wow feather lats LMFAO Dorian had a x-mass tree at 300lbs that's not proof he was in great shape all over ,  he's huge and soft if you remove all the sq fat and water from Ronnie you have a 250lb bodybuilder with REAL conditioning , density & dryness

which is why 2001/1998 are considered his best showings and NOT 2003 or this contest

[NarcissisticDeity]

STILL SMALL COMPARED TO THE AC!

 

what are you going to say now?

I say you're really grasping at straws ( nothing new ) his gut was there , huge and ever present , to bad he didn't have the conditioning in 99 to back it up 

 

[NeoSeminole]

oppps someone forgot that Dorian TORE his quad in 94 and this would explained that and the best part is you are actually saying that Dorian in what is considered one of his best contest showings is out of shape by 20lbs which again contradicts reality

which quad? b/c I honestly can't tell, lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

which quad? b/c I honestly can't tell, lol

There's a LOT of things about competitive bodybuilder you can't tell  try reading a book or two on the subject 

[NeoSeminole]

There's a LOT of things about competitive bodybuilder you can't tell try reading a book or two on the subject

trying to guess which quad is the torn one when both look like shit is not one of them

now are you going to tell us or are you going to keep pretending a torn muscle is the reason both his quads have non-existent striations?

[NarcissisticDeity]

trying to guess which quad is the torn one when both look like shit is not one of them

now are you going to tell us or are you going to keep pretending a torn muscle is the reason both his quads have non-existent striations?

he never had striated quads , striated quads don't mean his quads aren't free of sq fat and water , striations are genetic and obviously need great conditioning to be seen

Why is it I can NOT find a single picture of Ronnie with the same striations in his quads after he started winning the Olympia? we know he has the genetics for striations but where are they?  

same with his delts compared from 97 to 99 gone , gone , gone baby , where are they? I kno what would explain that do you?

[NeoSeminole]

he never had striated quads , striated quads don't mean his quads are free of sq fat and water , striations are genetic and obviously need great conditioning to be seen

I meant separated quads. Which one is the torn one, and how does that explain both of his quads sucking?

Why is it I can NOT find a single picture of Ronnie with the same striations in his quads after he started winning the Olympia? we know he has the genetics for striations but where are they?

same with his delts compared from 97 to 99 gone , gone , gone baby , where are they? I kno what would explain that do you?

ah, good. So you concede that conditioning is irrelevant since Ronnie had better conditioning at the 01 ASC and less definition in his quads compared to 97

gotcha

[NarcissisticDeity]

I meant separated quads. Which one is the torn one, and how does that explain both of his quads sucking?

ah, good. So you concede that conditioning is irrelevant since Ronnie had better conditioning at the 01 ASC and less definition in his quads compared to 97

gotcha

I meant separated quads. Which one is the torn one, and how does that explain both of his quads sucking?

you said striated , I can only go by what you type , and his quads suck compared to who?

ah, good. So you concede that conditioning is irrelevant since Ronnie had better conditioning at the 01 ASC and less definition in his quads compared to 97

still avoiding questions huh? oh yeah conditioning is totally irrelevant it doesn't matter in the least and if that were the case why then is 01 considered his best and not 2003?     

still waiting for you to answer the questions

[NarcissisticDeity]

Why does Dorian have striated traps yet Ronnie doesn't? sure not because Ronnie's traps aren't well defined and free of sq fat and water

[Royal Lion]

don't know why this is an argument.

when both ronnie and dorian weighed 257 and at their respective bests, (99 olympia and 93 olympia) Ronnie's gut was much smaller than dorian's.

way smaller. in fact, it was so small it was never even mentioned in ND's precious Flex magazine until the 2000 Olympia when it ballooned up and Kevin kept pointing at it..

Why don't you post pics of Dorian actually hitting the pose for your comparisons??  

[Royal Lion]

Can you not see the difference??