When Flex wrote that Ronnie won the ab and thigh because he has 3 times more thigh than Dexter they were simply backing up what the judges decreed. So I wasn't using Flex as a judge I was using the judges as a judge. You are using Dorian as a judge of himself 
The guy knows his onions but then he said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know", so he clearly thinks it'd be close. He must realise thighs are important in the ab and thigh and that Ronnie's 2003/2004 thighs were quite insane next to Dorian's of 93.
You keep calling 2003 R0nnie "unconditioned". Whilst I'll happily concede it's not Dorian level he's pretty dialled in.
In 2002 one judge had Ernie Taylor in 5th, another in 14th. He had himself 5th, as did the guy photographing him a couple of weeks before the show. Oldest scenario in bodybuilding that everything looks better a few weeks before the show, that what's so hard about competing!
If you watch the Ronnie one first Dorian almost has a Labrada-esque look of smallness when you watch the 93 vid.
When Flex wrote that Ronnie won the ab and thigh because he has 3 times more thigh than Dexter they were simply backing up what the judges decreed. So I wasn't using Flex as a judge I was using the judges as a judge. You are using Dorian as a judge of himself The guy knows his onions but then he said "Ronnie would probably win, I don't know", so he clearly thinks it'd be close. He must realise thighs are important in the ab and thigh and that Ronnie's 2003/2004 thighs were quite insane next to Dorian's of 93.
No he wasn't backing up the judges decree , the judges decree isn't to have the biggest parts while neglecting proportion & balance so he's wrong and your interpretation on what he was ' backing up ' is wrong and NO you weren't using the judges as a judge you haven't and still only harp on one part of the criteria as an advantage over the rest ( muscular size ) and yes I'm using Dorian as a judge and he does know his opinions especially when he said outright he is better conditioned than Ronnie and has better balance , he also said it was a very hard question for him to answer he said a lot but you see what you liked
NOT one thing is more important in a pose than everything , the judges look for balance throughout the entire physique , proportion , they look for quads CALVES how well they compliment each other , they look for abs , serattus , intercostals , obliques , pecs , lats , they look for who is carrying more muscular bulk , if that muscular bulk is dense hard muscle , who is the driest they look at EVERYTHING at once and determine who meets it better , this is how it works commit this to memory and stop harping on the importance of bigger parts
You keep calling 2003 R0nnie "unconditioned". Whilst I'll happily concede it's not Dorian level he's pretty dialled in.
I didn't say ' unconditioned ' I said his conditioning pales in comparison to Dorian and it sucks even compared to 1998/2001 that pic proves my point
In 2002 one judge had Ernie Taylor in 5th, another in 14th. He had himself 5th, as did the guy photographing him a couple of weeks before the show. Oldest scenario in bodybuilding that everything looks better a few weeks before the show, that what's so hard about competing!
This proves what? judges are inconsistent ? just to let you know both the high & low scores are tossed out so a guy could lose poses and still finish with straight firsts this doesn't prove judges are inconsistent , and you keep trying to work in other examples and apply them to Dorian , Dorian isn't Ernie , Dennis James , or Kamali , the difference is while all these guys look ' good ' six weeks out NONE of the tied it all together the day of the show , Dorian did , he looked outstanding precontest 1993 and he looked just as outstanding the day of the contest albeit lighter
If you watch the Ronnie one first Dorian almost has a Labrada-esque look of smallness when you watch the 93 vid.
LMFAO Labraesque look , oh boy ...these guys create these fantasy comparisons where Ronnie is like Paul Bunyan where Dorian's hips & waist and joints are all smaller than Ronnie ( which would never be the case ) where Ronnie's calves are bigger than Dorian ( which would never be the case ) and believe them like mindless children , you stand Dorian 1993 next to Ronnie 2003 side-by-side a lot of fan-boys would be disappointed that Ronnie isn't making him look like a featherweight
Ronnie 2003 would be noticeably bigger but NOT fantasy big like you guys wish where Dorian looks like Labrada next to him LMFAO lots of things would be obvious , like Ronnie 2003 pales in comparison in density & dryness and balance & proportion and despite being down on ' size ' he would beat Ronnie 03 the same way Shawn Ray beat a 285 pound Nasser , better conditioning , better posing , and better
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