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Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« on: July 25, 2010, 04:28:28 PM »
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041

Jason Allardyce and Tony Allen-Mills From: The Australian July 26, 2010


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THE US government secretly advised Scottish ministers it would be "far preferable" to free the Lockerbie bomber than jail him in Libya.

Correspondence obtained by The Sunday Times reveals the Obama administration considered compassionate release more palatable than locking up Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in a Libyan prison.


The intervention, which has angered US relatives of those who died in the attack, was made by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, a week before Megrahi was freed in August last year on grounds that he had terminal cancer.

The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were "surprised, disappointed and angry" to learn of Megrahi's release.

Scottish ministers viewed the level of US resistance to compassionate release as "half-hearted" and a sign it would be accepted.

The US has tried to keep the letter secret, refusing to give permission to the Scottish authorities to publish it on the grounds it would prevent future "frank and open communications" with other governments.

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and justice officials, Mr LeBaron wrote that the US wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

Mr LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland "would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi's release".

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home, under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments, in a deal now known to have been linked to a pound stg. 550 million oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement between Britain and the US that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison. Megrahi was released by Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill on the grounds that he had three months to live, making his sentence effectively spent.

The US Senate foreign relations committee launched a probe after The Sunday Times revealed this month that Megrahi's doctors thought he could live for another decade.

A source close to the Senate inquiry said: "The (LeBaron) letter is embarrassing for the US because it shows they were much less opposed to compassionate release than prisoner transfer."

Last week, a succession of British politicians - including Mr MacAskill, Mr Salmond and former justice secretary Jack Straw - delivered a diplomatic snub to the senators by refusing to fly across the Atlantic to answer questions at the Senate's hearing on Thursday (US time) about their role in Megrahi's release.

Despite the controversy over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and Megrahi's release, it emerged over the weekend that BP is planning deep-water drilling off Libya.

And BP boss Tony Hayward is poised to quit this week when the company announces its half-year results, London's Sunday Telegraph reported.

The Sunday Times, AFP


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US 'preferred' compassionate release of Lockerbie bomber, says Alex Salmond

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/7909248/US-preferred-compassionate-release-of-Lockerbie-bomber-says-Alex-Salmond.html

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The US Government told Scottish officials that the Lockerbie bomber's release on compassionate grounds was ''far preferable'' to his transfer back to a Libyan jail, it was revealed today.
 
Published: 4:17PM BST 25 Jul 2010

 
Speaking to Sky News today, Mr Salmond said: ''I think a fair description of the American Government's position is that they didn't want al-Megrahi to be released. Photo: EPA Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond said today that while America ''didn't want'' Abdelbaset al-Megrahi to be released, they would rather see him freed on account of his terminal cancer, than under the prisoner transfer agreement between the UK and Libya.

Megrahi is the only person convicted of the 1988 bombing in which 270 people were killed.

Libyan oil tycoons made £100,000 gift to Tories He was released in August last year after doctors said he was dying of prostate cancer and had three months to live - prompting fury in the US.

Last week, President Barack Obama told a White House press conference that the US had been ''surprised, disappointed and angry'' about Megrahi being released.

Speaking to Sky News today, Mr Salmond said: ''I think a fair description of the American Government's position is that they didn't want al-Megrahi to be released.

''However, if he was to be released, they thought it was far preferable for compassionate release as opposed to the prisoner transfer agreement.''

He also said this opposition was probably because the so-called ''deal in the desert'', signed by ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair, which paved the way for the prisoner transfer agreement, was signed at the same time as an oil deal with Libya.

But the American Ambassador to the UK Louis Susman said the US had ''strongly objected'' to any type of release.

He said the US was examining whether its correspondence over the issue could be released but refused to be drawn on the reported memo.

''What you saw in the (Sunday) Times was supposedly a leaked memo or letter which did not state the facts of the letter and we don't comment on correspondence between two governments until both governments agree to release it,'' he told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend.

He added: ''It is quite clear that the US government was strongly against the release of Megrahi. We had a mutual understanding with the British Government that if he was tried and convicted he would serve his entire sentence in Scotland.

''The fact that the justice minister made a decision on compassionate grounds to release him was something we were not in favour of.

''We obviously had conversations with them in which we strongly objected to any type of release.''

Calls for the decision to release Megrahi to be re-examined grew in volume in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico Oil spill, and reports that BP had lobbied for the bomber to be freed.

The US Senate Foreign Relations Committee announced plans for an inquiry into the bomber's release, but Scottish justice secretary Kenny MacAskill and former foreign secretary Jack Straw have both rejected calls to give evidence in person.

And Mr Salmond today repeated that the Scottish Government had no contact with BP in the build up to Megrahi's release on compassionate grounds.

Megrahi's release on compassionate grounds was on the basis of a medical report which indicated he had three months to live - but next month will mark a year since he was freed.

Mr Salmond today insisted that estimating life expectancy for terminal cancer sufferers is not an ''exact science''.

He said the report compiled by Scottish Prison Service director of health Andrew Fraser was done in consultation with experts from the NHS in Scotland.

Ministers have published the report which concluded a three-month prognosis was reasonable.

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Man, this guy lies about EVERYTHING. What a fucking dirt bag. 

Did al-Megrahi show compassion towards the 270 people he blew out of the sky? Disgusting. ::)

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 04:56:48 PM »
I have said it from day 1, and more people are waking up daily, Obama is a communist traitorous sleeper cell manchurian pofs who duped 52.3 percent of people to vote for him. 


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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 04:28:35 AM »
The silence on this thread is very telling from the obama cult.

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 04:30:00 AM »
they are waiting for the next palin breaking story to happen.
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 04:32:27 AM »
they are waiting for the next palin breaking story to happen.

I'm going to post a thread later how all the little communist fag reporters on JournoList conspired to destry her and the emails to prove it.

 

 

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 04:36:36 AM »
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I'm going to post a thread later how all the little communist fag reporters on JournoList conspired to destry her and the emails to prove it.

you know the lib goof troop on here will just spin it, then call you names after you present more facts to them
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 04:39:53 AM »
you know the lib goof troop on here will just spin it, then call you names after you present more facts to them

I just posted it.  This whole story of JournoList, the more that comes out, is going to be like a Silver stake in the heart of Dracula. 


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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2010, 08:36:18 AM »
Bump for mons, Danny, and blacken. 

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 08:57:25 AM »
You've skewed the words here a bit 333.  "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

It doesn't say they wanted him released at all.  Just that the US position was that a compassionate release was better than a prison transfer.  In the end Scotland made the decision to release him. 

Please read properly what it actually says.  You are entitled to your own opinion, not to your own facts.
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 09:00:09 AM »
You've skewed the words here a bit 333.  "Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose."

It doesn't say they wanted him released at all.  Just that the US position was that a compassionate release was better than a prison transfer.  In the end Scotland made the decision to release him. 

Please read properly what it actually says.  You are entitled to your own opinion, not to your own facts.

Facts....opinions...who cares. They KNOW they are always right. Down with the communist traitor!  ;D
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2010, 09:00:22 AM »
 ::)  ::)

And everyone with a freaking clue knew that the doctors report of this murderer dying within 3 months was bogus, unless of course you are a useful idiot of the left.  

This guy needs a bullet in the back of the head, not a release.  

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2010, 09:01:17 AM »
Facts....opinions...who cares. They KNOW they are always right. Down with the communist traitor!  ;D

Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2010, 09:08:38 AM »
Fact - Obama did not protest the release and do whatever he possibly could to stop this. 

Case closed. 

 ::) Scotland is it's own country it can make it's own decisions.  You're clutching at straws here because you've been called on the lies and opinion rather than facts of the matter. 
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2010, 09:12:18 AM »
::) Scotland is it's own country it can make it's own decisions.  You're clutching at straws here because you've been called on the lies and opinion rather than facts of the matter. 

What is opinion? 

Obama could have used the bully pulpit like he did for health care and for UE extension to stop this and did nothing.  Maybe this is why? 




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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2010, 09:18:07 AM »
Why would he interfere with a sovereign nations decision?  He, through the US embassy, expressed they didn't want him to be released.  You want him to go to war with an ally over this? 
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2010, 09:20:01 AM »
Face it you've lied on this.  You say they backed the release when it says they didn't support his release at all.  But viewed his release as better than a transfer.  Way to skew the facts of the matter. 
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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2010, 09:21:38 AM »
Why would he interfere with a sovereign nations decision?  He, through the US embassy, expressed they didn't want him to be released.  You want him to go to war with an ally over this? 

Maybe becaused they killed at least 30 of our citizens?


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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2010, 09:26:34 AM »
Maybe becaused they killed at least 30 of our citizens?



I'm not defending the bombing or the release here 333.  But you are trying to act as if Obama asked them to release them and supported it whole-heartedly.  Yet the quotes from the letter you say is evidence of Obama backing it say nothing of the sort.  They do say he did not want him released.  Then it says that our of two scenarios, both of which are not in favor of in the first place, they believe compassionate release to be the better option.  That doesn't mean the admin supported his release and in fact Obama went on to condemn the release shortly after it happened. 

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2010, 09:29:30 AM »
I'm not defending the bombing or the release here 333.  But you are trying to act as if Obama asked them to release them and supported it whole-heartedly.  Yet the quotes from the letter you say is evidence of Obama backing it say nothing of the sort.  They do say he did not want him released.  Then it says that our of two scenarios, both of which are not in favor of in the first place, they believe compassionate release to be the better option.  That doesn't mean the admin supported his release and in fact Obama went on to condemn the release shortly after it happened. 



Fact of the matter is that Obama did not do everything he could to stop this.  Then, he opted for the pussy choice, buying into the lies of the arabs, as he is one himself, that this murderer only had three months to live. 

Fuck obama, piss, shit, and pigs blood be upon him.   


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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2010, 09:37:47 AM »
Excerpt from what Robert Spencer had to say about this and which pretty much sums up this shameful act:

"And so the key question that should be posed to Barack Obama today is why he believed that "compassionate" release was preferable for this remorseless mass murderer than time in a Libyan jail. And if his administration approved of al-Megrahi's "compassionate" release, or at least had green-lighted it as a possibility before it occurred, why were U.S. officials "surprised, disappointed and angry" when it actually happened? Were any quid pro quos involved, either from Libya, whose strongman Muammar Gaddafi has lavishly praised Obama, or from Great Britain?"

An even better question is, "Why did they knowingly let Libya shop around for a doctor that would diagnose him with the magical 3 months to live tag?"

What a sad affair and a slap in the face to the hundreds of innocent civilians that were blown out of the sky on that day. While they're dead this guy gets to live out the rest of his life in peace.

If the US or Britain had any scruples they'd send a team to take care of this guy.

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2010, 09:40:27 AM »
This is another example, amongst the literally thousands of others, that to believe and support Obama, you have to support terrorists, marxists, communists, far left radicals, and other anti-American forces.

   

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2010, 09:40:57 AM »
333386 spreading more lies as facts :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your posts are getting so bogus that only the morans are believing them :D :D :D yes moran with an a ;D

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Re: Obama backed release of Lockerbie bomber
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2010, 09:45:15 AM »
Blacken the retard, incapable of posting a coherent sentence without using a smattering of emoticons to drive home his idiotic points.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D