is anadrol kind of worthless?

[theworm]

true it may "bulk" you up in a matter of weeks, but most of that is fuild.

and most profiles of it says "gains quickly fade upon stopping the drug."


so if you add all that with the fact that it has plenty of sides, why even use it (other than the strength aspect)?

any ideas?

[Arnold jr]

There is a lot of crappy drol floating around on the street, a lot. The only drol that is worth getting IMO is what you can get from a Dr.

As far as what it's good for, it can be great for contest prep, a lot of guys use it the last few wks before a show to help fill them out. If you're diet is solid you shouldn't have any problems with carrying too much water because of the drol. Yes, some people will bloat or spill over too much because of drol in a contest diet but they are few and far between.

As for other times it can be good, say in a bulking phase, it's a nice jump start but IMO that's really not worth all that much, as you know. A jump start really doesn't matter nor does it do anything for you in the long run and the long run is really the only important thing. The only thing it's really good for in a bulking phase is if you cycle it through your cycle. Something like 4wks on, 2wks off, 4wks on, etc. That can cost a lot especially if you're getting drol that's legit and as I said above that's the only drol really worth anything.

[theworm]

very temporary gains... worst of any steroid i would say.


very permanent and severe sides (acne, hair loss, possible liver issues, etc)...

[Overload]

very temporary gains... worst of any steroid i would say.

Same can be said for all AAS.

Drol is great for strength and filling out for shows.

It always made me feel like shit, but damn it makes you strong as an ox.

[theworm]

Same can be said for all AAS.

Drol is great for strength and filling out for shows.

It always made me feel like shit, but damn it makes you strong as an ox.

i can keep most of my gains from a test cycle for months (as opposed to a few weeks in the case of drol)

[Arnold jr]

very temporary gains... worst of any steroid i would say.


very permanent and severe sides (acne, hair loss, possible liver issues, etc)...

Acne and hair loss can happen with any AAS, however its been proven time and again that AAS doesn't cause hair loss, it only speeds up the process, meaning you were going to lose the hair any way. Acne, again, it can happen to anyone but in most cases if your gear is clean, meaning not dirty UG crap, you should be fine. Now some people can be predisposed to acne problems, even with clean gear but as with many of the sides, they are a minority.

i can keep most of my gains from a test cycle for months (as opposed to a few weeks in the case of drol)

Well, if you were to run a drol only cycle than I would agree.

[SgtSpar]

It always made me feel like shit, ....

Me too.

[okucougar_6]

Drol actually does the reverse on me, it leans me out for some reason. This drol I get is dr prescribed so its for real. I have no clue why it leans me out cuz Dbol bulks me up. If anyone has any input to why this might happen please explain. My diet is the same when taking either Dbol or drol, High Protein, and healthy fats 6-8 meals a day. My stats are 5'8 230 with BF 7.89% age 28.

[SgtSpar]

Drol actually does the reverse on me, it leans me out for some reason. This drol I get is dr prescribed so its for real. I have no clue why it leans me out cuz Dbol bulks me up. If anyone has any input to why this might happen please explain. My diet is the same when taking either Dbol or drol, High Protein, and healthy fats 6-8 meals a day. My stats are 5'8 230 with BF 7.89% age 28.

After the bullshit you made up when you posted the source on the other thread, you don't get an opinion.  The story you made up about someone using your computer to post a source was so ridiculous, it could only have been written by a kid or someone that is severely socially retarded.  This one is just as bad.  If you were 5'8", 230, and under 8% bodyfat, you would be a pro.  We already talked about this on the other thread.  If you're gonna lie, someone will have to wash your mouth out with cum again.

[Schmoe Buster]

Drol actually does the reverse on me, it leans me out for some reason. This drol I get is dr prescribed so its for real. I have no clue why it leans me out cuz Dbol bulks me up. If anyone has any input to why this might happen please explain. My diet is the same when taking either Dbol or drol, High Protein, and healthy fats 6-8 meals a day. My stats are 5'8 230 with BF 7.89% age 28.

Bet you got most of your protein and healthy fats straight from the tap, polesmoker

[jerseymuscles113]

if the guy wants to suck Dick let him suck Dick him filling the board with bullshit is for mods to worry about....as far as droll goes i don't have any opinion/experience but i'm plannin on addin some on my next cycle, i'm lookin forward to using It...anyone wanna share personal experiences?

[jon cole]

a friend of mine is on week 2 of anadrol he's using 50 mg daily of "oxymetholone IH" from iran,(with 500 mg of test E e.w) the box and packaging are crappy, the notice is made of paper toilet.

but it's HG gear, he gain 6 kilos in two week, no headache, no stomach ache, no ache anyway, his strenght start to go through the roof, and he's hard as a rock, the pump is insane only after few set.

he stopped bench press because of shoulder pain, last week he bench press 300 for 3 reps after several week without bench, this week he bench press 300 for 7 reps, as he told me last the week my third rep with 300 was hell, he gained 4 reps in one week, not too bad (he used to bench press 300 for 10)...

his eye are red after each heavy set, but no water retention, he told me he's leaner than at the beginning, his diet is serious.  

it's the first time for him on drol, he managed several cycle in the past and he seems really happy about drol, he was afraid because of side but at the end he's satisfied.

[SgtSpar]

if the guy wants to suck Dick let him suck Dick him filling the board with bullshit is for mods to worry about....as far as droll goes i don't have any opinion/experience but i'm plannin on addin some on my next cycle, i'm lookin forward to using It...anyone wanna share personal experiences?

The reason people get tired of answering theworm's questions is because he asks them and no matter what the answer, he tells you why he already has his mind made up and disregards what is said anyway.  Look at the first three posts in this thread.  Does it look like he gave any weight at all to ArnoldJr's reply?  He did the same thing when Overload answered him, and on all his other threads too.  Why come on a message board and ask for advice if you think you have all the answers already anyway?

[tbombz]

worm, youve never tried it, you quote "steroid profiles" in order to make comments about it..


you have no idea if its worthless, if its gains are temporary, if it gives bloat or muscle or pumps or whatever


personally, i dont like anadrol, but i only tried it once. i was using androlic from british dispensary, came inside the bottles with the plastic wrap still on it and unbroken, with the seal and medical pamphlet inside. it was legit. for me personally, anadrol made me lethargic, gave me headaches, and killed my appetite. i didnt notice too much in the way of strength or muscle gains.

but theres a huge following of bodybuilders/powerlifters out therewho absolutely love anadrol, and say its the bets steroid they have ever tried.


the thing is, youve got to try everything out on your own, and find out what works best for you.

those "steroid profiles" are, for the most part, completely useless. and alot of times inaccurate on pharmacological info too. 

[SgtSpar]

anadrol made me lethargic, gave me headaches, and killed my appetite. i didnt notice too much in the way of strength or muscle gains.

Me too.

[theworm]

worm, youve never tried it, you quote "steroid profiles" in order to make comments about it..


you have no idea if its worthless, if its gains are temporary, if it gives bloat or muscle or pumps or whatever


personally, i dont like anadrol, but i only tried it once. i was using androlic from british dispensary, came inside the bottles with the plastic wrap still on it and unbroken, with the seal and medical pamphlet inside. it was legit. for me personally, anadrol made me lethargic, gave me headaches, and killed my appetite. i didnt notice too much in the way of strength or muscle gains.

but theres a huge following of bodybuilders/powerlifters out therewho absolutely love anadrol, and say its the bets steroid they have ever tried.


the thing is, youve got to try everything out on your own, and find out what works best for you.

those "steroid profiles" are, for the most part, completely useless. and alot of times inaccurate on pharmacological info too.  

I tried it, been on it for two weeks now.  I do look much different, much fuller and harder. not much fluid (maybe cause i am using letro).  Really like it, but from all the profiles written on it, it says the "gains fade just as quick as they come."    




So I just posted the question on whether its useless, cause the gains are super temporary as opposed to almost any other steroid.  True it may be regarded as the best.  But if it puts 20 pounds on me, then those 20 pounds fade in a matter of weeks, then whats the point is my arguement.    I used other steroids, test, deca, etc, and most of my gains lasted for almost half a year and I was very happy.  I asked to question, to see if I was missing something about drol.

[theworm]

The reason people get tired of answering theworm's questions is because he asks them and no matter what the answer, he tells you why he already has his mind made up and disregards what is said anyway.  Look at the first three posts in this thread.  Does it look like he gave any weight at all to ArnoldJr's reply?  He did the same thing when Overload answered him, and on all his other threads too.  Why come on a message board and ask for advice if you think you have all the answers already anyway?

Thats the point of a discussion dumbass.   I pose the question, people respond, then I make arguements for one side of the story.  If people have valid points, or examples based on experience, then yeah, it makes me change my story/opinion.

But I have to remember, that I am dealing with a bunch of jackasses sometimes.  For instance, I ask the question of if anadrol is pointless as the gains rapidly fade.  then I get responses like "anadrol is a very powerful drug,"  and "people love anadrol."  No shit.  thats besides the point.

Like in every other one of my threads on anavar, all people know is the dogma "you need test" and never explain fully why that is in regards to a compound like anavar as your natural test levels are slightly depressed, not zero.  Then every now and then, someone actually responds with real world evidence stating they used anavar and had great gains and no sides. and they did not use test.  so sorry if my questions are annoying, but every now and then my question is answered, or it makes me change my mind, etc.

[SgtSpar]

Thats the point of a discussion dumbass.   

Yeah, I'm the dumbass.  You ask the same stupid shit over and over and then when someone answers you, you tell them why they are wrong. 

[jerseymuscles113]

dam what happened to GB this is supposed to be a gathering of like minded brothers who share their knowledge based on research AND experience...not a Pissing contest of who knows more then the Next guy ..if a noob is asking questions GREAT because he's trying to better himself instead of aimlessly taking serious compounds....the members here have lost sight of the idea that was Once getbig, a good place filled with knowledgeable people eager to help expand someones knowledge and help them make educated decisions regarding their AAS usage..we should all try to turn this board back to what It use to be

[theworm]

Yeah, I'm the dumbass.  You ask the same stupid shit over and over and then when someone answers you, you tell them why they are wrong. 

what can I say?   I try to learn something from you people, but just end up teaching you ass clowns.  (this is only to the jackasses, not to people who really know whats going on and actually help).

[theworm]

dam what happened to GB this is supposed to be a gathering of like minded brothers who share their knowledge based on research AND experience...not a Pissing contest of who knows more then the Next guy ..if a noob is asking questions GREAT because he's trying to better himself instead of aimlessly taking serious compounds....the members here have lost sight of the idea that was Once getbig, a good place filled with knowledgeable people eager to help expand someones knowledge and help them make educated decisions regarding their AAS usage..we should all try to turn this board back to what It use to be

completely agree!   you ask a legit question about a drug, and you get bashed from these people from out of no-where.

[thelamefalsehood]

Greecian Oxybalone, if you can get it, best stuff I ever had, hands down, not even close

[theworm]

those who have used it, did u find it benefitial to jumpstart your cycle with it?


like gain 20 pounds in the first few weeks, then when the test kicks in, you keep most of those gains through the cycle?

[Arnold jr]

I tried it, been on it for two weeks now.  I do look much different, much fuller and harder. not much fluid (maybe cause i am using letro).  Really like it, but from all the profiles written on it, it says the "gains fade just as quick as they come."    




So I just posted the question on whether its useless, cause the gains are super temporary as opposed to almost any other steroid.  True it may be regarded as the best.  But if it puts 20 pounds on me, then those 20 pounds fade in a matter of weeks, then whats the point is my arguement.    I used other steroids, test, deca, etc, and most of my gains lasted for almost half a year and I was very happy.  I asked to question, to see if I was missing something about drol.

Not holding much water? That's due to diet more than anything else.

If you use drol and whatever gains you made fade away as soon as you stop using it, something is seriously wrong. It just simply does not work that way.

Also, and this is an important note, a lot of people equate gains with overall weight gain, when in reality that is very misleading. Lets say you do run a cycle that causes you to hold some water, once the cycle is over the water weight goes away; that doesn't mean the muscle tissue gained also vanished. Further, you can't discount body composition changes that occurred, such as metabolic, or perhaps now that the cycle is over and been over for a month or so, you weigh close to the same as before but you carry more lean tissue and less body fat...there are countless scenarios and conditions to consider.

[theworm]

thanks Arnold, that helped.


very constructive and you did not have to call anyone an idiot, etc.  appreciate it.