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Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« on: July 29, 2010, 09:27:30 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/29/sherrod.lawsuit.breitbart/

(CNN) -- Former Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod said Thursday that she will pursue a lawsuit against conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart, the man responsible for posting an edited video clip of Sherrod appearing to say she discriminated against a white farmer looking for assistance.

"I will definitely do it," she said when asked whether she was considering legal action. Sherrod made her remarks during an appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention in San Diego, California.

Breitbart "had to know that he was targeting me," Sherrod said. "At this point, he hasn't apologized. I don't want it at this point, and he'll definitely hear from me."

The controversy surrounding the clip led to a rush to judgment and Sherrod's forced resignation. However, it was later determined that her speech, unedited, focused on how the incident changed her outlook and made her realize people should move beyond race. The incident occurred 24 years ago, before Sherrod began working for the USDA.

She received an official apology from the USDA and a phone call from President Obama once the full text of her remarks came to light.

Sherrod has since been offered another position at the Agriculture Department.

Obama said earlier Thursday that Sherrod "deserves better than what happened last week." Speaking at a National Urban League conference in Washington, Obama called the claim of racism against her "bogus."

"Many are to blame" for the reaction that followed, he said, "including my own administration."

Her whole story, Obama said he told Sherrod, "is exactly the kind of story we need to hear in America [because] we all have our biases."
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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 09:48:42 AM »
The issue is that in the video excerpt that Breibart published she makes a racist comment to cheers from the black audience. Even if it is only an excerpt the major concern is that the audience is cheering this racist behavior of Sherrod against whites and the white house is not condemning it.

I don't see how she comes off smelling like roses. Please post an excerpt where she redeems herself in that speech. I would rather not watch the full 45 minutes.

Thanks.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 10:10:48 AM »
Another waste of the judicial system.  Hasnt this greedy pig gotten enough $ $ $ $ of the other law suit she filed? 

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 10:28:43 AM »
I hope she sues the balls off that assclown.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 10:40:32 AM »
I hope she sues the balls off that assclown.

She has no case at all. 

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 10:41:07 AM »
What is she going to sue him for and under what cause of action?

She has zero case against Brietbart under practically every concievable cause of action I can think of.

She has a minimal cause of action against the blogger ( from a damages standpoint anyway considering she was offered her job back less than 24 hours later). False light isn't even a cause of action in most states. Defamation maybe-- but as I said earlier, what kind of damages does she expect to recieve? Also-- the video is of her own words and she is a public figure, so it is going to be very hard to win the case imo.  


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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 10:41:40 AM »
HAHA

333 beat me to the punch.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 10:49:43 AM »
What is she going to sue him for and under what cause of action?

She has zero case against Brietbart under practically every concievable cause of action I can think of.

She has a minimal cause of action against the blogger ( from a damages standpoint anyway considering she was offered her job back less than 24 hours later). False light isn't even a cause of action in most states. Defamation maybe-- but as I said earlier, what kind of damages does she expect to recieve? Also-- the video is of her own words and she is a public figure, so it is going to be very hard to win the case imo.  



Exactly!!! Breitbart didn't fire her. The USDA did, without giving her a chance to defend herself. And the NAACP dragged her through the mud, even though they had the whole speech. Yet, they want to play dumb and claim they got "snookered".

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 11:27:13 AM »
She has no case at all. 
With the corrupt system fully in place now anything is possible. I wouldn't be surprised if she wins. There is no more justice in this country. Look at the Arizona Judge. Look at OJ walking away!

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 11:29:00 AM »
What is she going to sue him for and under what cause of action?

She has zero case against Brietbart under practically every concievable cause of action I can think of.

She has a minimal cause of action against the blogger ( from a damages standpoint anyway considering she was offered her job back less than 24 hours later). False light isn't even a cause of action in most states. Defamation maybe-- but as I said earlier, what kind of damages does she expect to recieve? Also-- the video is of her own words and she is a public figure, so it is going to be very hard to win the case imo.  



Someone willing to use blogs in that manner should accept responsibility. True, it's not his fault they're idiots and reacted before getting the whole story but it doesn't excuse putting stuff like that up in the first place.

Republicans are always going on about personal responsibility, boot straps, and so on until those ideas cease to suit them. Let a court decide if libel has been committed. It's so hypocritical a way of viewing the world that only politicians and their followers could stomach it.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 11:36:11 AM »
Someone willing to use blogs in that manner should accept responsibility. True, it's not his fault they're idiots and reacted before getting the whole story but it doesn't excuse putting stuff like that up in the first place.

Republicans are always going on about personal responsibility, boot straps, and so on until those ideas cease to suit them. Let a court decide if libel has been committed. It's so hypocritical a way of viewing the world that only politicians and their followers could stomach it.

What did Breitbart accuse her of? 

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 11:36:32 AM »
Someone willing to use blogs in that manner should accept responsibility. True, it's not his fault they're idiots and reacted before getting the whole story but it doesn't excuse putting stuff like that up in the first place.

Republicans are always going on about personal responsibility, boot straps, and so on until those ideas cease to suit them. Let a court decide if libel has been committed. It's so hypocritical a way of viewing the world that only politicians and their followers could stomach it.
No excuse for putting what stuff up? He showed a video of her talking about her racist behavior towards whites and the black crowd cheered her on. Those were her own words. Please post a video where she redeems herself in the rest of the speech. Don't post a 45 minute video. She is racist in less than 2 minutes and can also redeem herself in 2 minutes.

Did he use slur words against her? NO. He posted a video of her being racist. What is he guilty of? Nothing. You are guilty of being against freedom of speech for supporting this charade. You are guilty of not obeying the Constitution!

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2010, 11:49:59 AM »
No excuse for putting what stuff up? He showed a video of her talking about her racist behavior towards whites and the black crowd cheered her on. Those were her own words. Please post a video where she redeems herself in the rest of the speech. Don't post a 45 minute video. She is racist in less than 2 minutes and can also redeem herself in 2 minutes.

Did he use slur words against her? NO. He posted a video of her being racist. What is he guilty of? Nothing. You are guilty of being against freedom of speech for supporting this charade. You are guilty of not obeying the Constitution!

There is a limit to free speech. Every time someone acts like an ass or modifies another's words to alter the context "Free speech" isn't an unassailable defense. You're essentially saying any bullshit someone puts on the internet (which included child porn) is covered by free speech unless they yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater. And that's silly.

I'd argue his posting the clip in that manner was tantamount to playing a recording of someone else's voice yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. He just used the tape to yell racist knowing it would cause her harm in any political climate.

It doesn't actually matter which one of is right but a court should decide what the boundaries of internet douchbaggery are for society's protection. There's only a matter of time before more and more of this stuff happens to real people considering how connected we all stay to the internet.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 12:05:35 PM »
There is a limit to free speech. Every time someone acts like an ass or modifies another's words to alter the context "Free speech" isn't an unassailable defense. You're essentially saying any bullshit someone puts on the internet (which included child porn) is covered by free speech unless they yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater. And that's silly.

I'd argue his posting the clip in that manner was tantamount to playing a recording of someone else's voice yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. He just used the tape to yell racist knowing it would cause her harm in any political climate.

It doesn't actually matter which one of is right but a court should decide what the boundaries of internet douchbaggery are for society's protection. There's only a matter of time before more and more of this stuff happens to real people considering how connected we all stay to the internet.

Never going to fly. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 12:17:45 PM »
There is a limit to free speech. Every time someone acts like an ass or modifies another's words to alter the context "Free speech" isn't an unassailable defense. You're essentially saying any bullshit someone puts on the internet (which included child porn) is covered by free speech unless they yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater. And that's silly.

I'd argue his posting the clip in that manner was tantamount to playing a recording of someone else's voice yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. He just used the tape to yell racist knowing it would cause her harm in any political climate.

It doesn't actually matter which one of is right but a court should decide what the boundaries of internet douchbaggery are for society's protection. There's only a matter of time before more and more of this stuff happens to real people considering how connected we all stay to the internet.

You may be right. However, until tort law is changed in this country what you or I may think doesn't mean squat. Not being political here, it's just the truth.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2010, 12:19:06 PM »
Nothing wrong with posting an excerpt from a video clip. Blame the govt. for blowing it out of proportion.

Hell, how many excerpts are posted on this forum?  ::)

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2010, 12:22:08 PM »
yeah, even if she was talking about 'how she learned a lesson'... she abused her govt position because she didn't like somebody's skin color, correct?

Maybe it was 20 years ago, maybe it was 20 minutes ago.  IF it was at this job (and I dunno, I sure as hell didn't follow this lame distraction story)... and she abused her govt job, then she does deserve to get fired.   

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 12:25:49 PM »
Brightbart has other stuff on her and her husband.Let her sue,by the time its over she will be viewed like Farakhan.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2010, 12:26:51 PM »
There is a limit to free speech. Every time someone acts like an ass or modifies another's words to alter the context "Free speech" isn't an unassailable defense. You're essentially saying any bullshit someone puts on the internet (which included child porn) is covered by free speech unless they yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater. And that's silly.

I'd argue his posting the clip in that manner was tantamount to playing a recording of someone else's voice yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. He just used the tape to yell racist knowing it would cause her harm in any political climate.

It doesn't actually matter which one of is right but a court should decide what the boundaries of internet douchbaggery are for society's protection. There's only a matter of time before more and more of this stuff happens to real people considering how connected we all stay to the internet.

How did he modify her words? Those were her words. There was no dubbing of audio. It was an excerpt of her speech. Your analogy about the recording of someone else's voice is irrelevant and not applicable because it was her own voice. This is a racist attitude that she admittted to and vocalized herself!

However that being said I just did watch the full video and right after her racist comments about not wanting to help a white man she did explain the problems the white farmer had with his white lawyer and that she realized it is not about black or white but between haves and have nots (18.00 - 21:00 of full video +/-). And the crowd actually nodded in agreement to this. And it does look like she tried to save this white farmers land and did so. So I do change my opinion on her.

But to my knowledge Breitbart was just posting an excerpt which the NAACP had released. If anything they are the ones that should be sued.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2010, 12:27:32 PM »
How about the NAACP condeming her all while they had the damn tape?

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2010, 01:20:57 PM »
yeah, even if she was talking about 'how she learned a lesson'... she abused her govt position because she didn't like somebody's skin color, correct?

Maybe it was 20 years ago, maybe it was 20 minutes ago.  IF it was at this job (and I dunno, I sure as hell didn't follow this lame distraction story)... and she abused her govt job, then she does deserve to get fired.   

There's the problem, 240. She helped the person. Regardless of whatever racial feelings she had going on the people were helped so the real story will never reach the same number of people the hack job did.

NAACP was too worried people might realize blacks can be racist too for using common sense. Providing they have any common sense.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2010, 01:34:04 PM »
Silly.  She's a political appointee.  She's been offered another job.  If anything, she should be going after the people who fired her. 

But what she really needs to do is shut up and get on with her life. 

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 10:19:12 PM »
Wow. I blew my top off. SUe him for what? I have heard the full tape actually makes her look WORSE. Not better. She and the rest of her family are race baters.
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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 10:25:42 PM »
I have heard the full tape actually makes her look WORSE

I agree.

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Re: Sherrod plans to sue blogger Breitbart
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 03:54:51 AM »
The issue is that in the video excerpt that Breibart published she makes a racist comment to cheers from the black audience. Even if it is only an excerpt the major concern is that the audience is cheering this racist behavior of Sherrod against whites and the white house is not condemning it.

I don't see how she comes off smelling like roses. Please post an excerpt where she redeems herself in that speech. I would rather not watch the full 45 minutes.

Thanks.
are you freaking serious?  You said the "major concern" is how the audience reacted?  Really?  You're going to fault her for audience reaction when the moral of the story in the end was against racism even from blacks?  The whole issue is that a portion of the story was used to make her look like the bad guy when in the end we can all see now that wasn't the case.  She did a good thing, an honest thing and it was turned into something it was not.  And you're going sit here and say the major thing was how the audience reacted?.  Yea you can make a point of that but it's a different point entirely.  Get your shit together buddy.

And I have to LOL at some of you saying you listened to the full 43 minutes... yea right, it's a freaking miracle when some of you make it 5 minutes into a video.


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She's giving us an valuable look into how she sees and deals with things today and why.  She's being honest about the events that set this thinking into motion for her.  Good god, honesty, I find it fucking refreshing.  How many here have talked about racism and the natural tendencies for it and now we're going to dog this woman for her honesty?  and after it has a positive outcome?  Are you fucking kidding me?