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911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« on: August 01, 2010, 07:11:56 PM »
Do yourself a favor and watch the video below - around the 68 minute mark - 74 minute mark they interview the cab driver on the bridge that was "struck" by a pole. With a hidden camera he admits that he was driven to the bridge in a van and that the operation is bigger than him and he contradicts himself on camera but off camera is candid and truthful. They have police officers and Pentagon workers who were all witnesses giving interviews that contradict the official account of the flight path per data recorders and flight control. Their observed path of the airliner makes it impossible for the plane to have hit the lamp posts as stated. The theory is that the airliner was shadowed by a smaller plane and that the airliner flew over the Pentagon and the smaller plane actually crashed into the building.

This video busts a hole right through the lie.



http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 07:26:57 AM »
Watch video from 1:11 on....^^^^

A real eye opener!!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o 




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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 08:53:58 AM »
ROTFLMAO

My God, You CT'ers are desperate.  You take the word of some ignorant cab driver who is probably on Rev. Wrights emailing list and spin what he said, which was edited.

I'm sure there are better vids than this. 

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 09:39:16 AM »
ROTFLMAO

My God, You CT'ers are desperate.  You take the word of some ignorant cab driver who is probably on Rev. Wrights emailing list and spin what he said, which was edited.

I'm sure there are better vids than this. 
He is one of many witnesses interviewed including cops and workers at the Pentagon. You have to watch the whole video in it's context. Do you even know what the premise of the video is? Did you watch the entire video?

The critical issue is the cab driver was on the bridge, his car was struck by the pole which places him at the scene at the time of the impact. He still has the taxi stored under a tarp with the broken windshield. He is a WITNESS.

See here is a perfect example we have actual witnesses that contradict the official explanation of what happened and yet you are still unmoved and call the WITNESS ignorant. He made his statement with a hidden camera because he thought he was not being taped.

Ozmo, you have claimed before that you don't believe all aspects of the governments account of 911. What don't you agree with? Sounds to me like you believe everything.

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 12:19:43 PM »
He is one of many witnesses interviewed including cops and workers at the Pentagon. You have to watch the whole video in it's context. Do you even know what the premise of the video is? Did you watch the entire video?

The critical issue is the cab driver was on the bridge, his car was struck by the pole which places him at the scene at the time of the impact. He still has the taxi stored under a tarp with the broken windshield. He is a WITNESS.

See here is a perfect example we have actual witnesses that contradict the official explanation of what happened and yet you are still unmoved and call the WITNESS ignorant. He made his statement with a hidden camera because he thought he was not being taped.

Ozmo, you have claimed before that you don't believe all aspects of the governments account of 911. What don't you agree with? Sounds to me like you believe everything.

You can ALWAYS tell a NeoScum....their post usually starts with 'ROTFLMAO'....LOL....or some other form of 'laughter' when confronting a serious issue. Deep down they know the truth... but 'ROTFLMAO' appears to sooth their internal pain.

Watch them....it's like clockwork.

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 12:31:28 PM »
He is one of many witnesses interviewed including cops and workers at the Pentagon. You have to watch the whole video in it's context. Do you even know what the premise of the video is? Did you watch the entire video?

The critical issue is the cab driver was on the bridge, his car was struck by the pole which places him at the scene at the time of the impact. He still has the taxi stored under a tarp with the broken windshield. He is a WITNESS.

See here is a perfect example we have actual witnesses that contradict the official explanation of what happened and yet you are still unmoved and call the WITNESS ignorant. He made his statement with a hidden camera because he thought he was not being taped.

Ozmo, you have claimed before that you don't believe all aspects of the governments account of 911. What don't you agree with? Sounds to me like you believe everything.

I am not going to spend an hour and 20 minutes watching some over edited contrived video of an ignorant cab driver being led to say stuff and that stuff being spun out of context.

What you said about witnesses is what happens with witnesses.  They often contradict them selves when dealing with large groups of them.  Take the JFK assassination for example:  (And this for example purposes only, not a red herring)  

According to the HSCA there were 172 witnesses to the shooting.

-  136 thought they heard 3 shots
-  6 thought they heard 4

According to the "London Weekend Television" they examined 189 witness statements

-  144 said 3 shots
-  8 said 4

So, while witnesses provide supportive evidence, they can be unreliable.  Combined that with much of the implied statements and conjecture on the filmmakers part and all you have here is a slanted un-objective blurb of a video.

On 9/11 there were massive far reaching break downs in national security much of which would jeopardize, embarrass and ultimately cause many in power positions to lose their jobs.  that's the root of possible cover ups.

A Jet Plane hit the pentagon.  The people who were on that plane died as a result of the crash.  Saying a missile hit it is pure fantasy.  

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 12:37:30 PM »
You can ALWAYS tell a NeoScum....their post usually starts with 'ROTFLMAO'....LOL....or some other form of 'laughter' when confronting a serious issue. Deep down they know the truth... but 'ROTFLMAO' appears to sooth their internal pain.

Watch them....it's like clockwork.

Yeah whatever dude, or should i say Mr Pilot, of war vet, or Mr. obsessed with HH6 dude.

the video was funny in the sense i explained. 

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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 12:45:12 PM »
ROTFLMAO

My God, You CT'ers are desperate.  You take the word of some ignorant cab driver who is probably on Rev. Wrights emailing list and spin what he said, which was edited.

I'm sure there are better vids than this. 

A raw nerve maybe?  ;)

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 01:16:39 PM »
A raw nerve maybe?  ;)

Interesting you'd conclude base on my post that a "raw nerve" was hit.  It explains why you fall for everything CT.  You have no reasoning skills beyond a hyperactive school boy. 

Keep running around believing anything, no matter how far out, illogical and or remote, you get from your crack pot nut job CT sites. 

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 05:57:03 PM »
lol! A CT will never be proven to some people until the parties that were involved in it come clean and tell the truth - hint: * Gulf of Tonkin *

The video posted in this thread is the best evidence yet to discredit the Pentagon attack. They do this by looking at the official flightpath of the airliner as presented by the government and then interviewing and questioning more than 6 witnesses that saw the airliner fly over their heads at various points along the flightpath all the way to the heli pad at the Pentagon moments before the explosion. The witnesses include two cops that were at the Citgo Gas Station.

All the witnesses have one thing in common: The plane is on the same but different flightpath from the official flightpath reported. This means the plane that they witnessed could not have hit the Pentagon because the damage would have been on a different side of the building! Are they all lying? Are they all in on it?? These guys had no reason to lie. They have jobs and their names are made public what could they possibly gain by lying?

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 06:25:25 PM »
lol! A CT will never be proven to some people until the parties that were involved in it come clean and tell the truth - hint: * Gulf of Tonkin *

The video posted in this thread is the best evidence yet to discredit the Pentagon attack. They do this by looking at the official flightpath of the airliner as presented by the government and then interviewing and questioning more than 6 witnesses that saw the airliner fly over their heads at various points along the flightpath all the way to the heli pad at the Pentagon moments before the explosion. The witnesses include two cops that were at the Citgo Gas Station.

All the witnesses have one thing in common: The plane is on the same but different flightpath from the official flightpath reported. This means the plane that they witnessed could not have hit the Pentagon because the damage would have been on a different side of the building! Are they all lying? Are they all in on it?? These guys had no reason to lie. They have jobs and their names are made public what could they possibly gain by lying?

Or was there another plane flying around, or they are mistaken as traumatic events tend to skew people's memories which i believe has been well documented and or what of the other witnesses who saw the plane where it was supposed to be?

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 06:50:56 PM »
Or was there another plane flying around, or they are mistaken as traumatic events tend to skew people's memories which i believe has been well documented and or what of the other witnesses who saw the plane where it was supposed to be?
The witnesses that were closer to the Pentagon claimed that when they saw the airliner everyone was running in the opposite direction and ducking because of the noise and proximity. Also the topography and trees made a clear view of the Pentagon not possible. So they claim they did not see the actual impact but they did see the airliner bank to the right and then moments later a fireball. But based on their observation of the flightpath it could not have been the airliner because the impact would have been in a different spot of the Pentagon. And the banking plane would not have taken out the 5 lamp posts because that required a level approach.

The witness in the heli pad was the closest and he thought it was the airliner that crashed into the Pentagon but admitted that he fell to the floor as it was flying by and then felt the explosion.

If a smaller plane shadowed the airliner at a very low altitude could it be heard over the roar of the jet engines? I guess there would have to be a witness to confirm a second smaller airplane. And maybe it was a missile? Who knows? Are these bogus witnesses?

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 07:31:11 PM »
The witnesses that were closer to the Pentagon claimed that when they saw the airliner everyone was running in the opposite direction and ducking because of the noise and proximity. Also the topography and trees made a clear view of the Pentagon not possible. So they claim they did not see the actual impact but they did see the airliner bank to the right and then moments later a fireball. But based on their observation of the flightpath it could not have been the airliner because the impact would have been in a different spot of the Pentagon. And the banking plane would not have taken out the 5 lamp posts because that required a level approach.

The witness in the heli pad was the closest and he thought it was the airliner that crashed into the Pentagon but admitted that he fell to the floor as it was flying by and then felt the explosion.

If a smaller plane shadowed the airliner at a very low altitude could it be heard over the roar of the jet engines? I guess there would have to be a witness to confirm a second smaller airplane. And maybe it was a missile? Who knows? Are these bogus witnesses?

Mike Walter

USA Today's Mike Walter was driving near the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet fly directly into the country's military nerve center. [544kB WAV download]

Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA TODAY
A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.

It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.

Deb Anlauf
Anlauf was watching TV coverage of the Trade Center burning shortly before 9:30 a.m. when she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on.

"Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook."

David Battle
Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."

Omar Campo
Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Gary Bauer, former Presidential candidate
“I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine.

“I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.

Mickey Bell
Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. He wandered around Arlington in his truck and tried to make wireless phone calls. He ended up back at Singleton´s headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much.

The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn´t realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell´s work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal, but Bell had no idea what had happened.

Mark Bright, Defense Protective Service officer
Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building.

"I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon.

He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area.

James R. Cissell
''Out of my peripheral vision,'' Cissell said, ''I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower.

''If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car.''

In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind.

''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said.

He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that ''I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it.''

Dan Creed
He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off.

"It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said.

"I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.

Don Fortunato
“Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think.”

Afework Hagos

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

Tom Hovis
Being a former transport type (60's era) I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did giving the direction the aircraft was taking at the time.

As most know, the Pentagon lies at the bottom of two hills from the west with the east side being next to the river at 14th street bridge. One hill is at the Navy Annex and the other is Arlington Cemetery. The plane came up I-395 also known as Shirley Hwy. (most likely used as a reference point.) The plane had been seen making a lazy pattern in the no fly zone over the White House and US Cap. Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me. Strangely, no one at the Reagan Tower noticed the aircraft. Andrews AFB radar should have also picked up the aircraft I would think. Nevertheless, the aircarft went southwest near Springfield and then veered left over Arlington and then put the nose down coming over Ft Myer picking off trees and light poles near the helicopter pad next to building. It was as if he leveled out at the last minute and put it square into the building. The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft. The entry point was so clean that the roof (shown in news photo) fell in on the wreckage.

Terrance Kean
Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window.

"I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. "It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal."

Charles H. Krohn
One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility, said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.

Maj. Lincoln Leibner
Maj. Leibner drove in and made it as far as the south parking lot, where he got out on foot. "I heard the plane first," he said. "I thought it was a flyover Arlington cemetery."

From his vantage point, Maj. Leibner looked up and saw the plane come in. "I was about 100 yards away," he said. "You could see through the windows of the aircraft. I saw it hit."

The plane came in hard and level and was flown full throttle into the building, dead center mass, Maj. Leibner said. "The plane completely entered the building," he said. "I got a little repercussion, from the sound, the blast. I've heard artillery, and that was louder than the loudest has to offer.

Elaine McCusker
Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I don’t know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just ‘No, no, no, no,’ because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash.

William Middleton Sr.
William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a commercial jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft.

Middleton said the plane was no higher than the tops of telephone poles as it lurched toward the Pentagon. The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building.

Mare Ann Owens
Looking up didn't tell me what type of plane it was because it was so close I could only see the bottom. Realising the Pentagon was its target, I didn't think the careering, full-throttled craft would get that far. Its downward angle was too sharp, its elevation of maybe 50 feet, too low. Street lights toppled as the plane barely cleared the Interstate 395 overpass.

The thought that I was about to die was immediate and certain. This plane was going to hit me along with all the other commuters trapped on Washington Boulevard.

Gripping the steering wheel of my vibrating car, I involuntarily ducked as the wobbling plane thundered over my head. Once it passed, I raised slightly and grimaced as the left wing dipped and scraped the helicopter area just before the nose crashed into the southwest wall of the Pentagon.

Christine Peterson

I was at a complete stop on the road in front of the helipad at the Pentagon; what I had thought would be a shortcut was as slow as the other routes I had taken that morning. I looked idly out my window to the left -- and saw a plane flying so low I said, “holy cow, that plane is going to hit my car” (not my actual words). The car shook as the plane flew over. It was so close that I could read the numbers under the wing.

And then the plane crashed. My mind could not comprehend what had happened. Where did the plane go? For some reason I expected it to bounce off the Pentagon wall in pieces. But there was no plane visible, only huge billows of smoke and torrents of fire.

Frank Probst
American Airlines Flight 77 approached from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill overlooking the Pentagon.

"He has lights off, wheels up, nose down," Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be accelerating directly toward him. He froze.

"I knew I was dead," he said later. "The only thing I thought was, 'Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and I'm not going to see my two boys again.'."

He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away.

The plane's right wing went through a generator trailer "like butter," Probst said. The starboard engine hit a low cement wall and blew apart.

Clyde Ragland
Ragland described billowing black smoke and "what looked like white confetti raining down everywhere." He said it soon became apparent "that the 'confetti' was little bits of airplane, falling down after being flung high into the bright, blue sky."

Tim Timmerman
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

Thomas D. Trapasso
Thomas D. Trapasso, a political appointee in the Clinton Administration who is now looking for work, was making telephone calls from his deck in Arlington Village, about 1 mi. south of the Pentagon and just west of the Interstate 395 (I-395) highway. He was startled by the large American Airlines aircraft flying about 300 ft. overhead. "The engines were just screaming, and the wheels were up," Trapasso said. "It disappeared over the trees, and I heard a boom. I knew something awful had happened--that an airplane had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C.

Alan Wallace
About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast.

"Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around. A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable.

The sun was still low in the sky, obscured by the Pentagon and the enormous billowing clouds of acrid smoke, making it hauntingly dark. The ground was on fire. Trees were on fire. Hot slices of aluminum were everywhere.

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 07:33:21 PM »
or these?

Some Eyewitness Accounts
Flight 77 Crash at the Pentagon, Sept. 11, 2001


"On a Metro train to National Airport, Allen Cleveland looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon. 'I thought, "There's no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks,"' he said. Before he could process that thought, he saw 'a huge mushroom cloud. The lady next to me was in absolute hysterics.'"
- "Our Plane Is Being Hijacked." Washington Post, 12 Sep 2001


"I was supposed to have been going to the Pentagon Tuesday morning at about 11:00am (EDT) and was getting ready, and thank goodness I wasn't going to be going until later. It was so shocking, I was listening to the news on what had happened in New York, and just happened to look out the window because I heard a low flying plane and then I saw it hit the Pentagon. It happened so fast... it was in the air one moment and in the building the next..."
- "U.S. Under Attack: Your Eyewitness Accounts." BBC News, 14 Sep 2001


"As I approached the Pentagon, which was still not quite in view, listening on the radio to the first reports about the World Trade Center disaster in New York, a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead. ... Seconds before the Pentagon came into view a huge black cloud of smoke rose above the road ahead. I came around the bend and there was the Pentagon billowing smoke, flames and debris, blackened on one side and with a gaping hole where the airplane had hit it."
- "Eyewitness at the Pentagon." Human Events, 17 Sep 2001


"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002


"USAToday.com Editor Joel Sucherman saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away. 'My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction,' Sucherman said. 'It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at a steep angle—almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its target and staying dead on course.'"
- "Journalist Witnesses Pentagon Crash." eWeek.com, 13 Sep 2001


"'I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,' eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex. 'Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,' he said."
- "Witnesses and Leaders on Terrorist Attacks." CNN, 11 Sep 2001


"'(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target,' said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA Today near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. 'It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"'I saw the tail of a large airliner. ... It plowed right into the Pentagon," said an Associated Press Radio reporter who witnessed the crash. 'There is billowing black smoke.'"
- "America's Morning of Terror." ChannelOne.com, 2001


"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. ... He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. 'You could almost see the people in the windows,' he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit."
- "Sept. 11, the Day America Changed." The Baxter Bulletin, 2001


"Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I don’t know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash."
- "September 11 Remembered." University Week, 4 Oct 2001


"Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at Arlington National Cemetery the morning of Sept. 11, when he mistakenly took the Pentagon exit onto Washington Boulevard, putting him in a position to witness American Airlines Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. 'I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars.' McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. 'The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. I saw it crash into the building,' he said. 'My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression,' he said. 'There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows.'"
- "Pentagon Crash Eyewitness Comforted Victims." MDW News Service, 28 Sep 2001


"'I glanced up just at the point where the plane was going into the building,' said Carla Thompson, who works in an Arlington, Va., office building about 1,000 yards from the crash. 'I saw an indentation in the building and then it was just blown-up up—red, everything red,' she said. 'Everybody was just starting to go crazy. I was petrified.'"
- "Terrorists Attack New York, Pentagon." Los Angeles Times, 12 Sep 2001


"I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11. From my office on the 19th floor of the USA TODAY building in Arlington, Va., I have a view of Arlington Cemetery, Crystal City, the Pentagon, National Airport and the Potomac River. ... Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."
- Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA Today


"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 2002


"Northern Virginia resident John O'Keefe was one of the commuters who witnessed the attack on the Pentagon. 'I was going up 395, up Washington Blvd., listening to the the news, to WTOP, and from my left side-I don't know whether I saw or heard it first- I saw a silver plane I immediately recognized it as an American Airlines jet,' said the 25-year-old O'Keefe, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying. 'It came swooping in over the highway, over my left shoulder, straight across where my car was heading. I'd just heard them saying on the radio that National Airport was closing, and I thought, "That's not going to make it to National Airport." And then I realized where I was, and that it was going to hit the Pentagon. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass. Then it was just black. Just black, thick smoke.'"
- "Terrorist 'Situation'." American Lawyer Media, 11 Sep 2001

I know some are doubled but still  i bet i could dig up more

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 07:36:55 PM »
Sorry dude, looking at the credentials of some of these people...they far out weigh some loony uneducated cab driver.

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2010, 07:42:11 PM »
This should put the Cabby to rest....

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/witnesses.html


Pentagon Eyewitnesses

Analysis of the Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Accounts

Given the geography of the Pentagon's surroundings, and the traffic jam that brought thousands of cars to a near-standstill on the highways on its west side on the morning of September 11, 2001, hundreds if not thousands of people must have witnessed some aspect of the attack. Accounts of scores of these witnesses were recorded in the form of press interviews and reports on websites.

On this page, we first look at the picture created by the body of eyewitnesses as a whole, and then scrutinize the evidence more critically to address questions of bias and fraud:

    * Trends in witness data
    * Questions of witness fraud
    * Questions of witness contamination

Trends in Witness Data

Anyone who reads the collections of Pentagon witness accounts such as Eric Bart's is likely to be impressed by the broad agreement among witnesses on aspects of the event -- the low-angle approach of a large jetliner followed by a huge explosion and billowing smoke. Some proponents of theories excluding a jetliner have amplified inconsistencies and bizarre details in the accounts, while ignoring their agreement.

Joël v.d. Reijden created the following summary of the frequencies of specific observations in the eyewitness reports described in the compilations by Eric Bart and SomeGuyYouDontKnow33.
about 89    The amount of eye witnesses I gathered who stated they saw an object crash into the Pentagon. The vast majority of the still available ones.
at least 45    The amount of eye witnesses who reported seeing a plane and described it with words like: 'airliner', 'big', 'silver', 'roaring', etc.
at least 23    The amount of eye witnesses who specifically said they saw an American Airlines jet. In all cases a large jet.
at least 22    The amount of witnesses who reported the noise of the plane was very loud to deafening.
at least 17    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a plane running down light poles when crossing the highways.
at least 12    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw and heard the plane increase its throttle at the last seconds.
at least 11    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a C-130H flying 30 seconds behind a jetliner.
at least 5    The amount of eye witnesses who specifically stated they saw the plane had its gear up.
   
at least 2    The amount of eye witnesses who stated that they saw a small corporate jet, without doing any creative interpretating [sic] of the witness accounts.
at least 0    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a missile. What the person thought he heard isn't relevant!
at least 0    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a military jet fighter at the time of the crash.
at least 0    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a Global Hawk at the time of the crash.

at least 3    The amount of witnesses who reported the sound of the plane was quite noiseless. (One of them acknowledged it was the shock)
at least 1    The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw the plane had it's gear down. (Indirect, said a wheel hit a pole)
at least 25    The amount of witnesses who have said something that might point to the use of explosives or incendiaries. (White flash, powerful blast waves which blew people through the air, molten glass, burning aluminium, [sic] spreading debris over hundreds of yards back to where the plane came from, including 2 engines, the missing plane itself, etc.)
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A quick look at this summary indicates overwhelming support by the eyewitnesses that a large jetliner crashed into the Pentagon.
Questions of Witness Fraud

One of the most frequent arguments used to dismiss the body of eyewitness evidence in order to deny that a jetliner attacked the Pentagon is that the majority of witnesses have connections to the military or the press, and therefore their accounts are suspect. However, given the proximity of most of the witnesses to the Pentagon and nearby military-related facilities, it's only natural that most of the witnesses would be involved with the military in some capacity. Several reporters for USA TODAY witnessed the event because offices in the USA TODAY building in Arlington, VA had a view of the Pentagon's west side.

Regardless of the number of witnesses with connections to the military or press, there are a substantial number of witnesses with no apparent connections, and the accounts of both groups are substantially in agreement. If one studies the breakdown of witnesses by observation detail, there is no obvious correlation between observation and witness type.

Even if one assumes that scores of witnesses were coached to lie or for some other reason lied to support the official story, one would have to assume the absurdity that all the other people who happened to glimpse the aircraft due to their being slow-moving traffic on the highways west of the Pentagon -- at least hundreds of people -- saw fit to remain silent about having seen something other than a jetliner.[/b][/size]
Questions of Witness Contamination

A more compelling question raised in regard to the veracity of witness reports of a jetliner is the observation that witnesses could have either adjusted their accounts to fit later reports regarding the Pentagon attack, or that their first perceptions were biased by prior reports of a jetliner crashing into the South Tower. However, there is a limit to the degree to which perceptions can be biased by context. With the exception of the two accounts of a commuter jet -- both by witnesses distant from the event, every account that mentions the attack plane is either consistent with or describes specific features of a twin-engine jetliner such as a Boeing 757. But the most common types of aircraft mentioned by the non-jetliner theorists are a missile, a cruise missile, a Global Hawk, a fighter jet, or A-30 type military jet. It is not reasonable to suppose that all of these witnesses could have been influenced by reports to re-interpret the sighting of such an entirely different type of aircraft as a jetliner, for a number of reasons:

   * No witness reports sighting a military plane or missile, or a plane with features inconsistent with a 757, such as no wings, wings attached to the top or middle of the fuselage, one engine instead of two, or engines attached to the tail section.

    * Most broadcast media did not begin reporting that a jetliner crashed into the Pentagon until about two hours after the attack. Several of the accounts may have been collected from witnesses before those reports were broadcast or before witnesses heard reports.


    * Of the eyewitnesses who identified the model of the aircraft, as many named a Boeing 737 or Airbus A-320 as named a Boeing 757, the type of plane that AA 77 was. The media-contamination theory does not explain the naming of a plane that is not a 757 but looks like one.

   * There is broad agreement among witnesses on specific details of the approach of the aircraft, such as its clipping lampposts, banking to the left, adding power at the last second, and flying with its flaps up. Such a level of observational detail would seem irreconcilable with witnesses grossly altering their recollections about the type of aircraft to fit the official story.

    * Some of those details, which are not explained by the much less specific news reports, are inconsistent with the types of aircraft proposed by non-jetliner theorists. For example, missiles, cruise missiles, and Global Hawks do not have flaps.

   * No Pentagon witnesses admit to reinterpreting their original impressions to fit the official narrative. This starkly contrasts with numerous examples from oral histories of emergency responders to the WTC attack admitting to retracting their initial conclusions of explosives and demolition to fit the official gravity collapse explanation.


Tarzan you seem like a reasonable fella, KEEP researching, and you may draw a different conclusion than you have now, like I did.

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2010, 08:28:47 PM »
I literally LOL'd after reading this...

well tarzan go ahead and find another youtube clip...

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2010, 09:24:31 PM »
ROTFLMAO

My God, You CT'ers are desperate.  You take the word of some ignorant cab driver who is probably on Rev. Wrights emailing list and spin what he said, which was edited.

I'm sure there are better vids than this. 

They actually think that a general who claims he can walk through walls and turn invisible is a credible source on the matter. I can't believe that you're surprised by this video.

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2010, 09:48:57 PM »
I literally LOL'd after reading this...

well tarzan go ahead and find another youtube clip...
To be continued tomorrow - don't you fuckers ever sleep?!

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2010, 09:52:39 PM »
To be continued tomorrow - don't you fuckers ever sleep?!
LOL im about to hit the hay, long day today and needed a little getbig to unwind  ;D

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2010, 04:45:18 PM »
Ozmo: It certainly would require a lot of research to verify the accounts of all the witnesses you listed. I have to remain neutral in my assumptions so I cannot just assume they are all just government fabrications. However they could if this was in fact an act by the government. A witness that contradicts the official explanation is also at greater risk of losing their job or being ostracized compared to a witness that doesn't. So when I see a witness contradict the story I have to ask myself what possible gain could they achieve in doing so? My guess is NO GAIN.

Here is another list for you:

Only saw plane (possibly from far away location), could not see pentagon, light poles or impact, either deduced or are lying OR do not directly mention or CONFIRM seeing an impact:
Susan Carroll (on metro platform at Reagan National)
Allen Cleveland (on subway metro train at Reagan National)
Meseidy Rodriguez (metro platform at Reagan National)
Steve Snaman (Ft McNair)
Michael Tinyk (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT US Patent and Trademark office in Crystal City)
Greta van Susteren (on the roof of a parking structure at National Airport)
Clyde A. Vaughn, Army Brig. Gen. (Saw the plane loitering over Georgetown, DC, )
Don Chauncey (small commuer plane)
Henry Ticknor (Rt 50, only saw plane for a moment-mad that people misrepresent)
Michael James -POV confirmed (Columbia Pike curve, trees blocked view)
Isabel James -POV confirmed (Columbia Pike curve, trees blocked view)
Mark Eastman
D.S. Khavkin (saw small commerical craft from back on Columbia Pike in highrise)
Allan Wallace (ran when plane came in, admits DID NOT see impact)
Mark Skipper (ran when plane came in, admits DID NOT see impact)
Steve Eiden (out on 395 loop)
Capt Steve McCoy (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT at 395 and Glebe Rd)
Andrea Kaiser (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT at 395 and Glebe Rd)
Ann Krug (Hoffman-Boston Elementary)
Mary Lyman
Oscar Martinez (saw plane, claims he only heard it hit, no confirmation to seeing)
Kirk Milburn (deceased, died in Motorcycle accident-CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT, could not see impact or light poles)
Linda Plaisted
Alfred S. Regnery (watched it disappear behind bridges and concrete barriers)
Joseph Royster
Darb Ryan, Vice Admiral
Elizabeth Smiley
Steve Snaman
Dewey Snavely, Sgt.
Levi Stephens
Greta van Susteren
Phillip Sheuerman (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT, on 395, only saw plane for brief moment, did not see impact)
Phillip Thompson (does not mention seeing impact, only fireball)
Thomas J. Trapasso (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT1400 S. Barton, dubious conflicting witness and can't see Pentagon from location)
Richard Benedetto (claims he did not see impact from Rt 27)
Terry Morin (up at Navy Annex)
James Ryan (And you saw it hit the Pentagon? No, at that point it went down because I was approaching a hill.)
Darb Ryan (quote only says "when out of the corner of my eye I saw the airplane" , the writer for Aviation Week adds 'a split second before it struck'.)
Mickey Bell (did not know what had happened)
Don Scott (did not and could not see pentagon or impact, confirmed by CIT)
Ralph Banton
Michael DiPaula ("sounded like missile", reporter adds detail about plane roaring into view, not in position to make determination on impact)
Lon Rains ("sounded like a missile")
John Thurman,Army Major who works in the Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff
Daniel McAdams (only heard)
Dennis Smith (no direct confirmation of impact, may actually support flyover)
Dawn Vignola (SPOKE TO CIT IN PERSON, claimed the plane was white seemed, could not debunk north side)
David Battle
Mike Gerson
Cheryl Hammond (saw the big American Airlines plane and started running)
Dan Creed (up on Columbia Pike, no view of Pentagon or impact)
James Keglovich (no indication or CONFIRMATION that he actually saw the impact)
Aydan Kizildrgli (no indication or CONFIRMATION,writers words, his quotes do not allude to ACTUALLY seeing the impact)
Lincoln Liebner (at entrance to building in south parking lot, cannot see impact from there.-also claims plane hit helicopter which it did not)

Claims they "Saw" impact of "plane"/large airliner-were in a position to possibly confirm one:
1. Deb Anlauf (CONTACTED by CIT, would not return call)
2. Donald Bouchoux (military consultant. CONTACTED by CIT, spoke with and left message with son, would not return call)
3. Mike Walter (had dinner with CIT)
4. Sean Boger (CONFIRMED the north side, impact deduced we believe)
5. Pam Bradley (unconfirmed account/witness)
6. Hugh "Tim" Timmerman (Dawn Vignola's roomate, unavailable for comment)
7. James R. Cissell
8. Daryl Donley
9. Bobby Eberle (came forward well after the event, Jeff Gannon's boss)
10. Penny Elgas
11. Mary Ann Owens
12. Scott Perry
13. Frank Probst (CONTACTED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
14Noel Sepulveda, Navy Master Sgt. (claims plane lowered landing gear and hit light poles with landing gear)
15. G. T. Stanley (unconfirmed name/witness)
16. Steve Storti
17. Carla Thompson (unconfirmed name/witness)
18. Dave Winslow, AP Radio reporter (CONTACTED by CIT, did not return call)
19. Terrance Kean (Unreachable)
20. Dave Marra (dubious, questionable witness-claims plane cartwheeled into building)
21. Mark Petitt (VERY dubious account)
22. Aziz El Hallou (Debunked lying witness, proven to be at Navy Annex)
223. Robert A Leonard(driving northbound in the HOV lanes on I-395; Pentagon is on the left. The plane vanished, absorbed by the building, and there was a slight pause. Then a huge fireball rose into the sky.")
24. Mitch Mitchell, Ret. Army Col., CBS news correspondent (account is problematic)
25. Mike Dobbs (according to writer, not confirmed, not his own words)
26. Joe Harrington (seems like it made impact before Wedge-in South Parking lot)
27. Rick Renzi (corrupt congressman, listed as law student, has plane "dive bombing", very peculiar account)

"Saw" a plane & impact from far away, but DID NOT see a second plane/jet shadowing/chasing and veering away as the impact happened:

28. Steve Anderson, USA Today Editor (saw impact from USA Today building)
29.Don Wright (a commuter plane, two-engined )
30.Don Chauncey (small commuter plane)
Steve Gerard (saw small corporate jet with no markings) (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
31. Lesley Kelly, Cmdr. U.S. Navy (Ret.) (near impossible to see the plane approach from DC)
32. James Robbins (a national-security analyst & NRO contributor for National Review, William F Buckley (CIA) publication saw silver flash, "diving in an unrecoverable angle")
Ken Ford (prop plane flying up river from National)
33.Christopher Munsey, Navy Times reporter

(30 TOTAL WHO COULD HAVE SEEN OR CLAIM TO HAVE SEEN IMPACT)

Claims plane an American Airlines:
Richard Benedetto
James R. Cissell
Dennis Clem
Mike Dobbs, Marine Cmdr.
Penny Elgas
Cheryl Hammond
Joe Harrington
William Lagasse (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT)
Lincoln Leibner, Army Major
Elaine McCusker
Mitch Mitchell, Ret. Army Col. CBS news correspondent
Terry Morin, Former USMC aviator (CONTACTED by CIT, would not return phone calls)
Christopher Munsey, Navy Times reporter
Vin Narayanan (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
John O'Keefe (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Steve Riskus
Mike Walter
Joel Sucherman (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Frank Probst (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
James Ryan
Steve Storti
Tim Timmerman
Michael Tinyk (dark orange and blue) (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED by CIT)
Alan Wallace (white airplane with orange and blue trim)
Ian Wyatt
Afework Hagos (according to writer)(CONTACT ATTEMPTED by CIT)

(25 total)

Saw a "silver plane":
Allen Cleveland
Albert Hemphill
James Mosely (silver flash?)
Steve Patterson
James S. Robbins
Madelyn Zackem (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Lt. Col O'Brien(CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by PFT/CIT)

(7 total)

Saw "the/a plane", not identified as AA:
Steve Anderson
Deb Anlauf
Sean Boger (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Donald Bouchoux
Pam Bradley
Mark Bright
Omar Campo
Susan Carroll
James R. Cissell
Dan Creed
Daryl Donley
Bob Dubill
Bobby Eberle
Steve Eiden
Bruce Elliott, Colonel
Kim Flyler
Kat Gaines
Fred Gaskins
Steven Gerard
Afework Hagos
Eugenio Hernandez
Fred Hey
Michael James
Andrea Kaiser
Terrance Kean
James Keglovich
Lesley Kelly, Cmdr. U.S. Navy (Ret.)
Aydan Kizildrgli
Ann Krug
Robert A. Leonard
Mary Lyman
David Marra
Oscar Martinez
Stephen McGraw (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
William Middleton Sr.
Kirk Milburn
Mary Ann Owens
Zinovy Pak
Scott Perry
Christine Peterson
Linda Plaisted
Alfred S. Regnery
Rick Renzi
Meseidy Rodriguez
Joseph Royster
Darb Ryan, Vice Admiral
Don Scott (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Noel Sepulveda, Navy Master Sgt.
Elizabeth Smiley
Steve Snaman
Dewey Snavely, Sgt.
G. T. Stanley
Levi Stephens
Greta van Susteren
Shari Taylor
Carla Thompson
Phillip Thompson
Thomas J. Trapasso (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Rodney Washington

Only heard plane:
Ralph Banton
Michael DiPaula ("sounded like missile", reporter adds detail about wing)
Lon Rains ("sounded like a missile")
John Thurman,Army Major who works in the Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff
Daniel McAdams

Heard impact/explosions:
Lisa Burgess
Michael DiPaula
John Thurman, Army Major who works in the Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff

Saw something else that does NOT support official story:
Stuart Artman (plane over/near Wash. monument)
Joseph Candelario (plane flying towards White House, sharp turn to Pentagon)
Kim Dent(shadow of plane from Navy Annex)
Ken Ford (prop plane flying up river from National)
Kat Gaines (plane striking telephone poles from 110)
Steve Gerard (saw small corporate jet with no markings) (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Joe Hurst ( saw it go overhead, Oval Room restaurant at Lafayette Square? DC)
Lesley Kelly, Cmdr.U.S. Navy(Ret.)(saw it descend from office in downtown DC)
D.S. Khavkin (saw small commerical craft)
Elaine McCusker (saw AA over 14th street bridge)
Steve Patterson (small silver 8-12 passenger commuter plane)
Dennis Smith (tail section before impact from Pentagon Courtyard)
Clyde A. Vaughn, Army Brig. Gen. (Saw the plane loitering over Georgetown, DC,
Don Wright (a commuter plane, two-engined-strange behavior when questioned about direction )
Omar Campo (saw white with blue on the bottom plane, United plane)
Michael Kelly (plane flying over him while he is on the 14th st bridge, debris falling on the 14th st bridge/395, sounded like small plane)
Harry Gold (saw plane "off the registered course over the Potomac" and believes it made a dive over Rosslyn)
Noel Sepulveda, Navy Master Sgt. (unconfirmed account-claims landing gear was down and hit light pole)
Sgt. Chadwick Brooks CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT-saw champagne off white plane on north side of Citgo, admits he could have been fooled and he stands by where he saw the plane)
Levi Stephens (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CIT-saw plane on north side of Citgo, claims did not look like and was not an American Airlines aircraft)
Robert Turcios (CONTACTED/CONFIRMED/INTERVIEWED by CITsaw plane on north side of Citgo, claims did not look like and was not an American Airlines aircraft)

Could see details of plane ie passengers:
Daryl Donley
Steve Eiden
James R. Cissell
Kim Flyler

Claims Saw it clip light pole:
Wanda Ramey (unconfirmed account)
Noel Sepulveda, Navy Master Sgt. (unconfirmed account-claims landing gear was down and hit light pole)
Lloyd England (CONTACTED/INTERVIEWED by CIT)
Afework Hagos (unconfrimed account-deduced? Lying?)
Mike Walter (has since changed story)

Listed or mistaken as witnesses but actually nowhere near the pentagon at the time of the attack nor did they see anything
Don Fortunato
Lee Evey
Tom Hovis
Jack Singleton

Saw plane on north side of Citgo or headed towards north side of Citgo
Sgt William Lagasse
Sgt Chadwick Brooks
Robert Turcios
Levi Stephens
Sean Boger
Ed Paik
Amy Hart (according to Steve Ross)

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2010, 05:02:39 PM »
A classified "White Plane" was reported by the media to be flying over the White House. Time of report and broadcast is 9:54 AM. Pentagon explosion occurred at 9:40 AM. Given the time to prep the broadcast it probably flew over the White House a few minutes earlier than 9:54 AM. The White House is about 2-3 miles from Pentagon and airspace is restricted.



Witnesses interviewed in video below saw this white plane flying toward the Pentagon moments before the explosion. The plane was flying just above the tree line at a very low altitude. The witnesses interviewed were unable to identify AA on the plane and described it as white with a red stripe.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2604879952877158021&hl=en#


Upper image is the one flying over the White House moments after the Pentagon Explosion. Lower one is a more clear image of an Air Force E-4B. Notice the bump above and behind the cockpit.


 

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2010, 05:40:59 PM »
So now you are saying there were 2 planes?   ???

the issue here is whether or not what hit the pentagon was a missile or a plane.

This is from the report i post earlier in the thread:

  * No witness reports sighting a military plane or missile, or a plane with features inconsistent with a 757, such as no wings, wings attached to the top or middle of the fuselage, one engine instead of two, or engines attached to the tail section.

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However they could if this was in fact an act by the government. A witness that contradicts the official explanation is also at greater risk of losing their job or being ostracized compared to a witness that doesn't.

You are already assuming, I think, ( i could be wrong but it sounds like it) in a way, that because there aren't very many contradicting testimonies that they are scared to testify.

Now, to conclude that because some have testified contradictory because they have nothing to lose and therefore are telling the truth is flawed logic.  Because as i well have demonstrated, when large groups of people see anything there is always "some" contradictory testimonies.  

But what stands out here more than anything else again is:

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  * No witness reports sighting a military plane or missile, or a plane with features inconsistent with a 757, such as no wings, wings attached to the top or middle of the fuselage, one engine instead of two, or engines attached to the tail section.

So really now, how can poeple mistake this:



for this:


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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2010, 07:19:33 PM »
So now you are saying there were 2 planes?   ???

That I don't know and am still checking out what's out there. I never knew about the white plane above the White House and now it is classified info. I never knew about the witnesses being interviewed and claiming to see a white airplane with no AA markings. The video is in the link in the post above and the witnesses are very clear about what they saw. Are they lying? Maybe. But then so could the other witnesses that claim to see an AA plane be lying.

As stated earlier some people are talking about the plane being shadowed by another plane. In fact the theory is there were three planes in the sky:

1. C-130 (decoy for white E4B)
2. E4B (white plane that flew over Pentagon / White House and seen by Witnesses and News Media)
3. Object that flew into Pentagon.

I am still checking out the theories.

And yes you are right when looking at this we have to be careful not to make assumptions.

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Re: 911 / Pentagon: Best video yet bar none!
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2010, 07:24:58 PM »
is it not a possibility tarzan that the plane that flew over the white house was a precaution in case it needed to pick up important officials?

do yourself a favor tarzan and the next time you find something that you think supports your ct look at the evidence against it as well...