Author Topic: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!  (Read 5314 times)

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« on: August 02, 2010, 09:07:09 AM »



This worthless C U N T is unbelieveable.

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 09:14:44 AM »
Do you care more about the writing on her hand or the fact that come 2011, we are facing a tax tsunami like you cant believe? 

She is 1000000000000000% correct in that video, in spite of the hand writing.   

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 09:23:29 AM »
Like most politicians (except chris christie) - she refuses to tell us EXACTLY WHAT SHE"LL CUT IN THE BUDGET.

Repubs always say "cut spending!" then refuse to tell us which americans' jobs they'll be taking.  Even garbage pork projects do employ people. 

i'd admire her if she, like Christie, said "I intend to slash the following programs and lay off 500,000 americans whose jobs are wasteful".

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 09:25:23 AM »
Like most politicians (except chris christie) - she refuses to tell us EXACTLY WHAT SHE"LL CUT IN THE BUDGET.

Repubs always say "cut spending!" then refuse to tell us which americans' jobs they'll be taking.  Even garbage pork projects do employ people. 

i'd admire her if she, like Christie, said "I intend to slash the following programs and lay off 500,000 americans whose jobs are wasteful".


Rep. Ryan has put forth a plan that most people say would work by cutting spending back to 2006 levels. 

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 09:31:48 AM »
Do you care more about the writing on her hand or the fact that come 2011, we are facing a tax tsunami like you cant believe? 

She is 1000000000000000% correct in that video, in spite of the hand writing.   

Allowing the EXPIRATION of Bush's temporary tax cuts will not cause Armageddon. Out of control Government spending on bogus wars (14 BILLION per month) will.

Palin calling the expiration "the largest tax increase ever".......is more word salad BS. Much like Palin herself.

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 09:37:09 AM »
Allowing the EXPIRATION of Bush's temporary tax cuts will not cause Armageddon. Out of control Government spending on bogus wars (14 BILLION per month) will.

Palin calling the expiration "the largest tax increase ever".......is more word salad BS. Much like Palin herself.


Repubs purposefully set them to expire right before the 2010 midterms.

They could have put them in place PERMANENTLY.  They chose not to ;)

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 09:39:48 AM »
Repubs purposefully set them to expire right before the 2010 midterms.

They could have put them in place PERMANENTLY.  They chose not to ;)

Right.   ::)  ::)  ::)

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 09:44:49 AM »
Repubs purposefully set them to expire right before the 2010 midterms.

They could have put them in place PERMANENTLY.  They chose not to ;)

I agree. All games at the expense of a clueless public.

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 09:49:58 AM »
I agree. All games at the expense of a clueless public.

Sorry - this is a huge issue and Obama and the fellow traveling marxists are intentionally destroying the nation since they know enacting this tax hike will even further weaken the economy. 

 

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 10:02:13 AM »
Sorry - this is a huge issue and Obama and the fellow traveling marxists are intentionally destroying the nation since they know enacting this tax hike will even further weaken the economy. 

 

It's not a tax hike. It's an EXPIRATION of W's temp. tax cuts. Bush orchestrated the EXPIRATION date....not Obama.

Besides...I paid 39.4% under Clinton and the country did ok.  ;)


Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 10:04:36 AM »
It's not a tax hike. It's an EXPIRATION of W's temp. tax cuts. Bush orchestrated the EXPIRATION date....not Obama.

Besides...I paid 39.4% under Clinton and the country did ok.  ;)



 ::)  ::)

The guy who nets 700 a week now, and then nets 675, is seeing this as a tax hike.

And sorry, the dems played games like this in 1995 when the GOP wanted to slow the rate of growth in spending and they called it "cuts". 

Some of us remember those days.   

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 10:13:16 AM »
::)  ::)

The guy who nets 700 a week now, and then nets 675, is seeing this as a tax hike.

And sorry, the dems played games like this in 1995 when the GOP wanted to slow the rate of growth in spending and they called it "cuts". 

Some of us remember those days.   

They all play games.... I remember.

I say end the bogus Wars (14 Billion month) and make the temp. tax cuts permanant. To me that sounds reasonable.


240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 10:38:56 AM »
Right.   ::)  ::)  ::)

Please... tell me what I am wrong about.

Repubs could have made them permanent or given them a 10 year lifespan.  Why the 5 year lifespan, set to expire right before the 2010 midterms?

If the dems were REPEALING the cuts, it'd be one thing.  But they're not.  They're allowing some bush policy to sunset. 

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 10:40:46 AM »
Please... tell me what I am wrong about.

Repubs could have made them permanent or given them a 10 year lifespan.  Why the 5 year lifespan, set to expire right before the 2010 midterms?

If the dems were REPEALING the cuts, it'd be one thing.  But they're not.  They're allowing some bush policy to sunset. 

No they couldnt because they had to go via reconcilliation since it was a budgetary thing.  I'll get the details for you later.   

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 10:41:37 AM »
No they couldnt because they had to go via reconcilliation since it was a budgetary thing.  I'll get the details for you later.   

ok cool.  Dems keep saying they let it expire at this time on purpose.  I'd like to see that proven wrong.

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2010, 10:43:53 AM »
ok cool.  Dems keep saying they let it expire at this time on purpose.  I'd like to see that proven wrong.

Same here.

Danny

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4630
  • The original Superman
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2010, 10:52:26 AM »
Same here.

The Bush tax cuts never should’ve been passed because, one, we couldn’t afford them, and second, we didn’t earn them,”

David Stockman, Reagan White House Budget guru
"What we do in life ECHOES in eternity "

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2010, 10:54:27 AM »
The Bush tax cuts never should’ve been passed because, one, we couldn’t afford them, and second, we didn’t earn them,”

David Stockman, Reagan White House Budget guru

Huh?  Its not the govts freaking money.  What I make is mine, not yours. 

Go take your grubby, greedy, greasy, self and provide for yourself. 

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2010, 11:01:01 AM »
May 26, 2010

Why Are the Bush Tax Cuts Expiring?

________________________ ________________________ ____

Why are the Bush tax cuts, which were passed primarily in 2001 and 2003, expiring at the end of this tax year? In other words, why weren't they made permanent?

During the legislative fight over tax cuts in 2001, Senate Republicans could not predict with certainty that they would reach the 60-vote threshold of support that would have enabled them to make the tax cuts permanent. As a result, when Congress passed the first of many tax cuts during the last decade in May 2001, it passed it as a reconciliation bill which needs only 51 votes. That was the so-called Bush tax cut, formally known as the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act (EGTRRA, pronounced egg-tray).

Reconciliation was devised in 1974 as a way to for the Senate to deal more effectively with budget bills, but it soon became a technique to limit amendments and debate. In 1985, the Senate added the so-called Byrd rule to reconciliation. Named after Senator Robert Byrd, the rule forbids a bill passed under reconciliation from, among other things, altering federal revenue for more than 10 years. Any senator may object that a provision violates that stricture, and if the presiding officer agrees, a vote of 60 senators is required to overturn the ruling.

In 1999, the Senate for the first time used reconciliation to pass legislation that would increase deficits: the Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act 1999. The budget was in surplus at the time, but it was still controversial. In any case, President Clinton vetoed the bill. A year later the Senate again used reconciliation to pass the Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000, which President Clinton also vetoed.

Overall, 62 senators supported H.R. 1836 as amended by the Senate, thereby sending it to conference. In the end, 58 senators voted in favor of the conference report. Nevertheless, because the bill was passed under reconciliation, revenues further than 10 years in the future could not be changed. And so, on December 31, 2010, all of EGTRRA will expire and revert to 2001 law.

The 2003 tax cuts mostly accelerated the original tax cuts, but also put in place new tax cuts for dividends and capital gains. The 2003 tax cut, known as the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA) was also passed under reconciliation.

Tallies of how members of Congress voted on the final versions of each of the two major tax cuts (2001 and 2003):

•Senate vote on passage of 2001 tax cuts: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00170
•House vote on passage of 2001 tax cuts: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll149.xml
•Senate vote on passage of 2003 tax cuts: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00196
•House vote on passage of 2003 tax cuts: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll225.xml
Legislation (text, timeline, etc.) of the two major tax cuts:

•2001 legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01836
•2003 legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.00002
Printer FriendlySend to a Friend©2010 Tax Foundation. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/26312.html


Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2010, 11:01:18 AM »
Huh?  Its not the govts freaking money.  What I make is mine, not yours.  

Go take your grubby, greedy, greasy, self and provide for yourself.  

Calm down 333's.... Danny was quoting Reagans financial guru.  

Bush's guru Greenspasm is NOW on the same bandwagon.

Now what.... Attack Obama?

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66418
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2010, 11:03:42 AM »
lol

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2010, 11:04:34 AM »
Calm down 333's.... Danny was quoting Reagans financial guru.  

Bush's guru Greenspasm is NOW on the same bandwagon.

Now what?

Yes and again - they are saying we should offset it with spending cuts.  

Why cant we try that for once?    

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41759
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2010, 11:06:33 AM »
Calm down 333's.... Danny was quoting Reagans financial guru.  

Bush's guru Greenspasm is NOW on the same bandwagon.

Now what.... Attack Obama?

El Maestro was clintons' guy.   

Danny

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4630
  • The original Superman
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2010, 11:06:53 AM »
Calm down 333's.... Danny was quoting Reagans financial guru.  

Bush's guru Greenspasm is NOW on the same bandwagon.

Now what?

Hey ....you're making sense...AGAIN! DAMN!! What am I gonna say now????? Seriously, when two of the most prominent economic top dogs, who are supposed to DEFEND the cuts make the same type of statement they must be onto something.
"What we do in life ECHOES in eternity "

Mons Venus

  • Guest
Re: Palin Uses Crib Notes AGAIN In Fox Interview !!!
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2010, 11:09:34 AM »
May 26, 2010

Why Are the Bush Tax Cuts Expiring?

________________________ ________________________ ____

Why are the Bush tax cuts, which were passed primarily in 2001 and 2003, expiring at the end of this tax year? In other words, why weren't they made permanent?

During the legislative fight over tax cuts in 2001, Senate Republicans could not predict with certainty that they would reach the 60-vote threshold of support that would have enabled them to make the tax cuts permanent. As a result, when Congress passed the first of many tax cuts during the last decade in May 2001, it passed it as a reconciliation bill which needs only 51 votes. That was the so-called Bush tax cut, formally known as the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act (EGTRRA, pronounced egg-tray).

Reconciliation was devised in 1974 as a way to for the Senate to deal more effectively with budget bills, but it soon became a technique to limit amendments and debate. In 1985, the Senate added the so-called Byrd rule to reconciliation. Named after Senator Robert Byrd, the rule forbids a bill passed under reconciliation from, among other things, altering federal revenue for more than 10 years. Any senator may object that a provision violates that stricture, and if the presiding officer agrees, a vote of 60 senators is required to overturn the ruling.

In 1999, the Senate for the first time used reconciliation to pass legislation that would increase deficits: the Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act 1999. The budget was in surplus at the time, but it was still controversial. In any case, President Clinton vetoed the bill. A year later the Senate again used reconciliation to pass the Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000, which President Clinton also vetoed.

Overall, 62 senators supported H.R. 1836 as amended by the Senate, thereby sending it to conference. In the end, 58 senators voted in favor of the conference report. Nevertheless, because the bill was passed under reconciliation, revenues further than 10 years in the future could not be changed. And so, on December 31, 2010, all of EGTRRA will expire and revert to 2001 law.

The 2003 tax cuts mostly accelerated the original tax cuts, but also put in place new tax cuts for dividends and capital gains. The 2003 tax cut, known as the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA) was also passed under reconciliation.

Tallies of how members of Congress voted on the final versions of each of the two major tax cuts (2001 and 2003):

•Senate vote on passage of 2001 tax cuts: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00170
•House vote on passage of 2001 tax cuts: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll149.xml
•Senate vote on passage of 2003 tax cuts: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00196
•House vote on passage of 2003 tax cuts: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll225.xml
Legislation (text, timeline, etc.) of the two major tax cuts:

•2001 legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01836
•2003 legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.00002
Printer FriendlySend to a Friend©2010 Tax Foundation. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/26312.html



Ok without the 60 votes Bush utilized a way around it called Reconciliation. 10yrs is the limit......and it's over.