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Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« on: August 03, 2010, 07:50:26 PM »
true story!!  ;D ;D ;D

one of these days i'd like to punch a conservative in the face and see if he turns the other cheek eh  ;D
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 08:03:58 PM »
true story!!  ;D ;D ;D

one of these days i'd like to punch a conservative in the face and see if he turns the other cheek eh  ;D

I'd love to see you do it. When you do... make sure to film it and throw it up on YouTube. ok?  :D
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 08:09:40 PM »
LOL actually Jesus was a conservative...he believed in letting ppl make their own decisions...not forcing things on them

Like loco said in another thread today I feel you should help those less fortunate but I dont feel it should be mandated through taxes like liberals do...

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 08:11:23 PM »
I'd love to see you do it. When you do... make sure to film it and throw it up on YouTube. ok?  :D

judi dont get too happy...i'm ALSO the guy that will point and laugh his ass off when a drunk illegal alien runs over a liberals kid ;)


dont mistake me as being on your side
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 08:13:52 PM »
LOL actually Jesus was a conservative...he believed in letting ppl make their own decisions...not forcing things on them

Like loco said in another thread today I feel you should help those less fortunate but I dont feel it should be mandated through taxes like liberals do...

religion is a mandate...otherwise u end up in hell ;)

u telling me i'm not mandated to believe in that hippie f uk jesus to go to heaven...??


 on this i side with the joos...if some luny bin came ranting to me about some supernatty power up in the sky man ..i'd seriously nail his ass to a cross also! :)
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 08:13:54 PM »
Conservatives More Liberal Givers
By George Will

WASHINGTON -- Residents of Austin, Texas, home of the state's government and flagship university, have very refined social consciences, if they do say so themselves, and they do say so, speaking via bumper stickers. Don R. Willett, a justice of the state Supreme Court, has commuted behind bumpers proclaiming "Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All," "Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless Beauty," "The Moral High Ground Is Built on Compassion," "Arms Are For Hugging," "Will Work (When the Jobs Come Back From India)," "Jesus Is a Liberal," "God Wants Spiritual Fruits, Not Religious Nuts," "The Road to Hell Is Paved With Republicans," "Republicans Are People Too -- Mean, Selfish, Greedy People" and so on. But Willett thinks Austin subverts a stereotype: "The belief that liberals care more about the poor may scratch a partisan or ideological itch, but the facts are hostile witnesses."

Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

 If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Brooks demonstrates a correlation between charitable behavior and "the values that lie beneath" liberal and conservative labels. Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives.

Reviewing Brooks' book in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, Justice Willett notes that Austin -- it voted 56 percent for Kerry while he was getting just 38 percent statewide -- is ranked by The Chronicle of Philanthropy as 48th out of America's 50 largest cities in per capita charitable giving. Brooks' data about disparities between liberals' and conservatives' charitable giving fit these facts: Democrats represent a majority of the wealthiest congressional districts, and half of America's richest households live in states where both senators are Democrats.

While conservatives tend to regard giving as a personal rather than governmental responsibility, some liberals consider private charity a retrograde phenomenon -- a poor palliative for an inadequate welfare state, and a distraction from achieving adequacy by force, by increasing taxes. Ralph Nader, running for president in 2000, said: "A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity." Brooks, however, warns: "If support for a policy that does not exist ... substitutes for private charity, the needy are left worse off than before. It is one of the bitterest ironies of liberal politics today that political opinions are apparently taking the place of help for others."

In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 08:20:47 PM »
religion is a mandate...otherwise u end up in hell ;)

u telling me i'm not mandated to believe in that hippie f uk jesus to go to heaven...??


 on this i side with the joos...if some luny bin came ranting to me about some supernatty power up in the sky man ..i'd seriously nail his ass to a cross also! :)
LOL define mandate protien...id like to hear your version for laughs...

you have the choice of wanting to go to heaven or not...if you do there are certain things you have to do...

no one is forcing you to want to go to heaven  ::)

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 08:48:20 PM »
LOL define mandate protien...id like to hear your version for laughs...




here man...

read YOUR BIBLE
http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter10.html
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 08:50:39 PM »

here man...

read YOUR BIBLE
http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter10.html

I asked for your definition of "mandate" not a link...

you agree that no one is forcing you to want to go to heaven?

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 09:52:13 PM »
judi dont get too happy...i'm ALSO the guy that will point and laugh his ass off when a drunk illegal alien runs over a liberals kid ;)


dont mistake me as being on your side

What side are you refering to? There are no sides, there are simply beliefs, and your believing in a different way to tackle a common problem doesn't make me your opponent or your enemy.

btw, do you also laugh your ass off when a drunk illegal alien runs over a conservative's kid?
Did you laugh your ass off on 911? How about when those bombs went off in Karachi?
and why do you take such joy in witnessing the shedding of innocent blood. Maybe you should leave America and go to someplace where they love watching innocent blood being shed in the streets.
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 07:29:06 PM »


btw, do you also laugh your ass off when a drunk illegal alien runs over a conservative's kid?


no cause conservatives want illegal criminals out...liberals wanna keep them in

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Did you laugh your ass off on 911? How about when those bombs went off in Karachi?
brilliant...you r really good at connecting the dots judi...!
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and why do you take such joy in witnessing the shedding of innocent blood. Maybe you should leave America and go to someplace where they love watching innocent blood being shed in the streets.
i REALLY DONT WANNA MOVE TO AFRICA  ;)
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 08:16:45 PM »
no cause conservatives want illegal criminals out...liberals wanna keep them in
brilliant...you r really good at connecting the dots judi...!i REALLY DONT WANNA MOVE TO AFRICA  ;)

Actually, if actions mean more than words, ...it would appear that many conservatives want illegals to work in their businesses. Just as many more want them to leave. A large group of liberals want illegals to saty, while just as many liberals want illegals out.

The main issue in this case is the means by which the immigration issue is tackled. Being against unsound and/or unconstitutional legislation that negatively impacts innocent law abiding legal Americans, doesn't mean you are for illegal immigration. The more you pander to and give credence to this left/right - conservative/ liberal choreographed battle, ...the more your society remains manipulated by those who consider themselves neither liberals nor conservatives. Ya know... the elites who control both sides while robbing people blind, ...and the people are too preoccupied fighting "the other side of the aisle" to realize how badly they are being sodomized.

BTW - Did you laugh your ass off at those who drowned in all the flooding that took place in Pakistan?
I'm sure there are a few Pakistani's that neither believe in nor care about global climate change, and it's impact on the planet. Or do you not care because the majority of the flooding took place in the Punjab?
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 06:32:40 AM »
Actually, if actions mean more than words, ...it would appear that many conservatives want illegals to work in their businesses. Just as many more want them to leave. A large group of liberals want illegals to saty, while just as many liberals want illegals out.

The main issue in this case is the means by which the immigration issue is tackled. Being against unsound and/or unconstitutional legislation that negatively impacts innocent law abiding legal Americans, doesn't mean you are for illegal immigration. The more you pander to and give credence to this left/right - conservative/ liberal choreographed battle, ...the more your society remains manipulated by those who consider themselves neither liberals nor conservatives. Ya know... the elites who control both sides while robbing people blind, ...and the people are too preoccupied fighting "the other side of the aisle" to realize how badly they are being sodomized.

BTW - Did you laugh your ass off at those who drowned in all the flooding that took place in Pakistan?
I'm sure there are a few Pakistani's that neither believe in nor care about global climate change, and it's impact on the planet. Or do you not care because the majority of the flooding took place in the Punjab?


Yes,because the flood was caused by global warming.In fact,there had never been any flooding anywhere in the world before the global warming issue came up.Never ever was there a flood in the 1800s or early 1900s or anytime in history.Only now that global warming ,a made up hoax,is on the table have floods started.

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 03:27:02 PM »
Yes,because the flood was caused by global warming.In fact,there had never been any flooding anywhere in the world before the global warming issue came up.Never ever was there a flood in the 1800s or early 1900s or anytime in history.Only now that global warming ,a made up hoax,is on the table have floods started.

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 07:09:30 PM »


BTW - Did you laugh your ass off at those who drowned in all the flooding that took place in Pakistan?
I'm sure there are a few Pakistani's that neither believe in nor care about global climate change, and it's impact on the planet. Or do you not care because the majority of the flooding took place in the Punjab?


what does pakistan have to do with conservatives and liberals?  as to the flooding...i ws indifferent...i'm an (lemme spell it out) AMERICAN...

you are not...why r you so concerned with american politics?
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 03:08:37 AM »
what does pakistan have to do with conservatives and liberals?  as to the flooding...i ws indifferent...i'm an (lemme spell it out) AMERICAN...

you are not...why r you so concerned with american politics?

Pakistan has nothing to do with conservatives and liberals... much like most of the issues that are discussed on this board or in the main stream media. They have nothing to do with conservatives or liberals, but the puppet masters would manipulate the population into thinking it is all about conservatism and liberalism. It's not.

Why am I concerned with american politics... oh I don't know... maybe the fact that you guys are my neighbours, my biggest trading partner, and my life and livelihood is affected by the legislation you enact... not to mention the countries you invade,  and markets you manipulate and/or destroy... I have an interest in what's going on. Besides... not being American, ...means I know a thing or two about what goes on outside of my own borders.  :P
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 05:47:13 AM »
Jag if it's ok with you, I'd like to add an addendum to the reasons you listed above--- Most importantly that you hail from a second rate country that is brutally uninteresting, unimportant and because have nothing better to do with your time.

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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 06:18:29 AM »
Religious right Neocon nutbags are religious.  Conservatives want the government to be conservative and stay out of the people's business for the most part. 

I don't like the government involved in my life, I prefer to take personal responsibility for what I do.   I couldn't give a shit what the flying spaghetti monster is doing and don't see how that should play any role in why I want less taxes, smaller government, more personal freedom, less government control of the business sector, and reduced social program funding for those that abuse it. 


The ascendence of the "religious right" in the neocon movement is the worst thing that Republicans ever chose to latch on to.  Being conservative should be about wanting less government involvement and more personal responsibility in how you run your life.  Wanting the government to play a bigger role in controlling our "morals" is the opposite of what "conservative" means to me.
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 07:34:56 PM »


Why am I concerned with american politics... oh I don't know... maybe the fact that you guys are my neighbours, my biggest trading partner, and my life and livelihood is affected by the legislation you enact...

then you should be pro republican...after all is said and done....republicans put more $ in your pocket in the end....

lesser taxes...lesser illegals...pro capitalism = more $ for people like u and me....and a better life....the american dream...

i KNOW u work hard...so do i...then why the hbeck do you side with people that dont wanna work hard and get shit for free?

free citizenship (when i and mine paid out the ass for it)...free healthcare (when i and mine worked our asses off to make enough $ to afford it)....WHY??? i say NO..i WONT make it easy for you by paying for it myself..high school education is free in america...milllions of 3rd world kids would die for such an opportunity..and if u were born here and STILL cant make it...then kudos to my dad...who made it ..big with a shit education in the 3rd world!!! i mean bravo! and if you were born in the 3rd world then work like my dad did to make it here legally...dont expect it for free...its a slap in the face of hard working people

remember..dems like obama , al gore and pelosi are MILLIONAIRES....living the good life...yet they want YOU AND I to make sacrifices in the name of <ahem> diversity  :-\
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2010, 01:51:00 AM »
then you should be pro republican...after all is said and done....republicans put more $ in your pocket in the end....

Actually tox, anyone who knows me and what I believe in, knows I'm really right of centre,
...but look at your choices... Sarah Palin? Newt Gingrich? John McCain? George W Bush? Makes me wanna hurl.

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lesser taxes...lesser illegals...pro capitalism = more $ for people like u and me....and a better life....the american dream...

Toxie this might surprise you, but it's the Repub rich who are really pro- illegals. It reduces their labour costs signifcantly.

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i KNOW u work hard...so do i...then why the hbeck do you side with people that dont wanna work hard and get shit for free?

Who says I side with illegals? Thinking Arizona's legislation is flawed and ill conceived is NOT siding with illegals, it's saying it is bad legislation. If it sides with anybody, it sides with legal residents who will be the ones paying the price for and mainly affected by this ill conceived legislation.

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free citizenship (when i and mine paid out the ass for it)...free healthcare (when i and mine worked our asses off to make enough $ to afford it)....WHY??? i say NO..i WONT make it easy for you by paying for it myself..high school education is free in america...milllions of 3rd world kids would die for such an opportunity..and if u were born here and STILL cant make it...then kudos to my dad...who made it ..big with a shit education in the 3rd world!!! i mean bravo! and if you were born in the 3rd world then work like my dad did to make it here legally...dont expect it for free...its a slap in the face of hard working people

Gee Toxie, ...you sound so petty. Besides, you are hardly one to lecture others about having shit handed to them for free.

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remember..dems like obama , al gore and pelosi are MILLIONAIRES....living the good life...yet they want YOU AND I to make sacrifices in the name of <ahem> diversity  :-\

I think you misconstrue the message.
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Re: Conservatives are religious BUT JESUS WS A LIBERAL
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 06:38:18 AM »


Gee Toxie, ...you sound so petty. Besides, you are hardly one to lecture others about having shit handed to them for free.


nothing ws handed to me for free from anyone else except my parents...

and they got rich  IN A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY.....now if folks cant do it here in a first world country then its seriously not my fault if they aren't smart enough.

and it works both ways....who do you think is gonna be taking care of my parents/paying their bills when they r too old to do it themselves?

people LOVE throwing my rich parents in my face.....not my fault if yours were too stupid/didn't work hard enough to provide you with the same ..  :-\
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