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CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« on: August 04, 2010, 11:26:01 AM »
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CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
Posted: August 4th, 2010

From CNN Political Producer Shannon Travis

Washington (CNN) - It's surely not what the leader of the free world wants for his birthday. But, for a stubborn group of Americans, conspiracy theories about President Obama's birthplace are the gifts that keep on giving.

The president celebrates his 49th birthday Wednesday. On the same day, a new national poll indicates some Americans continue to doubt the president was born in the United States. According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, more than a quarter of the public have doubts about Obama's citizenship, with 11 percent saying Obama was definitely not born in the United States and another 16 percent saying the president was probably not born in the country.

Full results [pdf]

Forty-two percent of those questioned say they have absolutely no doubts that the president was born in the U.S., while 29-percent say he "probably" was.


"Not surprisingly, there are big partisan differences, although a majority of Republicans thinks Obama was definitely or probably born here," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Eighty-five percent of Democrats say that Obama was definitely or probably born in the U.S., compared to 68 percent of independents and 57 percent of Republicans. Twenty-seven percent of Republicans say he was probably not born here, and another 14 percent of Republicans say he was definitely not born in the U.S."

The theory that the president was not born in the U.S. has nagged him since the 2008 presidential campaign. A group of true believers, known as "Birthers," have pressed the idea that Obama was born in another country - some say in his father's homeland of Kenya. By their claims, Obama is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

On the president's birthday, some websites bent on advancing the theory are wishing Obama a "Happy Birther Day." And some of the president's staunchest critics are fanning the flames.

On Tuesday, conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh quipped on his program, "They tell us August 4th is the birthday. We haven't seen any proof of that!"

Yet there is ample evidence that defies Limbaugh's statement and the beliefs of the 27-percent of Americans that, according to the poll, doubt the president's birthplace. CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors.

Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate - officially called a "certificate of live birth." And in 1961 the hospital where the president was born placed announcements in two Hawaiian newspapers regarding Obama's birth.

The White House has called doubts that Obama was born in Hawaii "fictional nonsense."

But questions persist. So much that in May, Hawaii passed a law that allows state agencies to ignore repeated requests to view government records, including the president's birth document. Hawaii's Republican Gov. Linda Lingle signed the legislation into law.

Around that time, Lingle - who campaigned for Sen. John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008 - criticized questions about the president's birth.

In a WABC interview before signing the legislation, Lingle said, "...I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health." Lingle added, " … The president was in fact born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact."

"It's been established he was born here," the governor continued. "I can understand why people want to make certain that the constitutional requirement of being a, you know, natural born American citizen … but the question has been asked and answered. And I think just we should all move on now."

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted July 16-21, with 1,018 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 11:30:39 AM »
I wonder why they label it a conspiracy theory.


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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 11:31:43 AM »
Who cares where he was born.Its obvious he hates this country and wants to go to Kenya just like his dad.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 01:07:36 PM »
i could of told you that 25% of the people in the u.s. are morons :o

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 02:23:46 PM »
i could of told you that 25% of the people in the u.s. are morons :o


We already knew that from your posts.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 02:35:31 PM »

We already knew that from your posts.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 02:36:16 PM »
That number will increase as approval ratings fall.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 07:37:41 PM »

We already knew that from your posts.
ha-ha good one skip!

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 08:07:00 PM »
That number will increase as approval ratings fall.

Which would only prove that political opinion in the USA is not based on facts, but is reactionary and based on wishful thinking, and whichever way the wind is blowing.

If one quarter doubt Obama was born in the US, it must also mean Three Quarters believe he was.
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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 05:23:51 PM »
Which would only prove that political opinion in the USA is not based on facts, but is reactionary and based on wishful thinking, and whichever way the wind is blowing.

If one quarter doubt Obama was born in the US, it must also mean Three Quarters believe he was.

probably not.  I would say at least 50-70% do, but there is certainly a percentage that don't know or aren't sure.

Political opinion is rarely based on facts anywhere not just the USA.  The information age has only IMO, made it easier to for entities to influence beliefs and as we know, belief is far more powerful than fact. 

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 05:26:24 PM »
probably not.  I would say at least 50-70% do, but there is certainly a percentage that don't know or aren't sure.

Political opinion is rarely based on facts anywhere not just the USA.  The information age has only IMO, made it easier to for entities to influence beliefs and as we know, belief is far more powerful than fact. 

LMAO I was going to bring that up but I figured it would be a waste of time to address it with her...another reason youre one of my favorite posters on the politics board  ;D

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 05:29:15 PM »
LMAO I was going to bring that up but I figured it would be a waste of time to address it with her...another reason youre one of my favorite posters on the politics board  ;D

Thanks Tony!   I do enjoy Jag for the most part, even though I usually don't agree with her.  lol

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 05:53:31 PM »
Thanks Tony!   I do enjoy Jag for the most part, even though I usually don't agree with her.  lol
No problem, I do as well she is a lot of fun to mess with and also to debate...one of the few women on this board that debates on the politics board and I think that alone says alot seeing as how informed some of the posters are on here and how harsh we can be at times  ;D

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »
No problem, I do as well she is a lot of fun to mess with and also to debate...one of the few women on this board that debates on the politics board and I think that alone says alot seeing as how informed some of the posters are on here and how harsh we can be at times  ;D


How harsh we can be?  I hope you haven't forgotten about the endless number of times she's been on here hurling insults, calling people names, belittling, and basically acting like an arrogant prima donna.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 05:38:39 PM »

How harsh we can be?  I hope you haven't forgotten about the endless number of times she's been on here hurling insults, calling people names, belittling, and basically acting like an arrogant prima donna.

True.  She can be pretty twisted.  Some of the worst things ever said on this board have come from her. 

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 06:17:22 PM »

How harsh we can be?  I hope you haven't forgotten about the endless number of times she's been on here hurling insults, calling people names, belittling, and basically acting like an arrogant prima donna.
not at all and ya she does take the arrogance to another level from time to time

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 07:19:31 PM »
That number will increase as approval ratings fall.

why would falling approval ratings lead to people changing their mind about where they think Obama was born?

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 07:22:20 PM »
I wonder how many of those 25% only get their information from Fox, NewsMax etc..

Then again a consistent 40% of American seem to think Iraq was responsible for 911

The Newsweek Magazine poll "What America Knows", conducted Princeton Survey Research Associates International, regularly asks American citizens a wide range of questions relating to world events past and present and a number of more trivial questions of general knowledge.[7] On five occasions the following question has been asked:

"Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

September 2003 responses: 47% Yes, 37% No, 16% not sure.
January 2004 responses: 49% Yes, 39% No, 12% not sure.
September 2004 responses: 42% Yes, 44% No, 14% not sure.
October 2004 responses: 36% Yes, 51% No, 13% not sure.
June 2007 responses: 41% Yes, 50% No, 9% not sure.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 07:32:07 PM »
why would falling approval ratings lead to people changing their mind about where they think Obama was born?

Because there are people who are on the fence about the issue and its human nature get more suspicious of things or people you lose confidence in.  It could possibly swing as high as 5%.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 07:34:25 PM »
I wonder how many of those 25% only get their information from Fox, NewsMax etc..

Then again a consistent 40% of American seem to think Iraq was responsible for 911

The Newsweek Magazine poll "What America Knows", conducted Princeton Survey Research Associates International, regularly asks American citizens a wide range of questions relating to world events past and present and a number of more trivial questions of general knowledge.[7] On five occasions the following question has been asked:

"Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

September 2003 responses: 47% Yes, 37% No, 16% not sure.
January 2004 responses: 49% Yes, 39% No, 12% not sure.
September 2004 responses: 42% Yes, 44% No, 14% not sure.
October 2004 responses: 36% Yes, 51% No, 13% not sure.
June 2007 responses: 41% Yes, 50% No, 9% not sure.
LMAO you should ask 240 according to him only 1% of the US population watches fox....so not that many I would guess

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 08:06:39 PM »
LMAO you should ask 240 according to him only 1% of the US population watches fox....so not that many I would guess
definitely no explanation for the % of people who believe Iraq was involved in 911 goes from 36% in October of 2004 to 41% in  June 2007

polls about what people believe about what is for basically a statement of fact (where Obama was born, was Saddam/Iraq behind 911, etc...)
often get weird results


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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2010, 08:31:52 PM »
Definition of racism : black people sucking obama's ass even though he is just as bad as bush....

..just like repbs refused to demouth bush  :-\


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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 11:40:00 PM »
it's true... at its peak, only about 1% of people watch FOX.


However, the FOX viewers regurgitate the half-truths and over-emotional exaggerations in their daily conversations with every person to whom they deliver a pizza.

So the word does get around, despite their initial low reach.

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Re: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2010, 06:48:08 PM »
lol