The reason Azn Muslce it was over turned is because it was deemed unconstitutional, by the 14th amendment. So the people voted to put an illegal law on the books, wrong! Nice try, but the people are not always right. Conservatives want the best of both worlds, but if you want to live by the constitution, equal rights is part of it, you can't pick and choose. Gay marriage all the way !!!!!!!!!! luv it 
We are afforded equal rights, correct but we are afforded equal rights under the law…”under the law” being the key phrase.
This does not mean we are all afforded equality in every sense of the word, I am not afforded $1million if you have a million, you are not afforded to marry a man if I’m afforded to marry a woman. We are all afforded equal justice, meaning we are all afforded the benefit of the same starting point but we do not all end up at the same end.
As I said before I am not for/against gay marriage, I am just not a big fan of government telling me what I can and cannot do. Like anything else, I just think it should be voted on. CA had a chance to make gay marriage legal. The bill was given a fair shot, and it was up to the people to decide. Unfortunately for the gay community things didn't go as planned.
The bigger issue here though is not so much gay marriage etc, it is the governments role in our lives. Why does this judge have the right to rule against the will of a majority? Why am I penalized if I don't purchase health care? Why do I have to give my tax payer dollars to wall street bankers for their incompetence? Why do I have to bail out Detroit Auto Makers that make shitty cars? The list goes on.
I guess we can agree to disagree friend.
100% correct, any judge that does something like this, and I’m speaking of any issue, this judge should be dismissed permanently and immediately. You’re also right, the main issue of focus is governments role in our lives…it is and has gotten beyond out of hand.
I'm not legal beagle but I like the fact that the majority can't enact a law that violates peoples rights. Shockwave I'm not talking about this particular situation but in general. The majority ISN'T always right, that is why we have a system in place that protects the minority as well.
You are correct, the CA proposition ballets are actually in opposition to the way our system is supposed to work, however, states do have the right to perform and function in the manner in which they choose so as long as it doesn’t violate federal law. That said, the reason CA has begun in recent years to use propositions as a large means of passing law has been nothing more than to circumvent republic style governance and institute more progressive means of governing. It takes away the power of the republic and leads to more solidarity control.
Did you read what you wrote? So the majority of people should suffer because the minority want to impose their views on us? What the gays are asking is that the laws be changed to suit their desires....they already have the same rights, they can marry a person of the opposite sex, nobody is denying them that, but they are asking for special treatment and privileges that the people have already turned down. And now some pantywaist fag in a black dress denies the will of the people? Fuck that guy.
QFT!
No one is violating their rights, they have the right to live as they choose but this doesn’t mean they should be granted special privileges. For example, since this is a bodybuilding board and an issue close to my heart, I’d love to see the steroid laws changed but this doesn’t mean I’d expect to see steroid users given the same tax credits other medications afford…that would be retarded.
What consenting adults choose to do is their business...hard to believe this country was founded by people wanting to be free............ 
Again, no one has ever said they can’t do what they want but you can’t redefine societal norms and the condition of the hearts of man because of few men disagree or desire that change based on feelings.
Further and this is the most important thing, we are granted rights, government however does not have the right to create more rights…this seems to be lost on the progressive movement. We are granted the rights of the constitution, we are all granted the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, meaning, we’re granted the right to live and exist, we’re granted the right to live freely as we best see fit, we are granted to live in a means and in a pursuit of those means that brings us the most happiness possible…homosexuals are not denied any of these rights but they are denied to create new rights just as every man is.
