Jay knows there's a limit to how big he can show up with a certain type of conditioning such as last year. He well do the exact same thing and won't take any chances. His symmetry problems are less apparent then by the past but still are noticeable. Kai has better proportions thought the midsection starts really to look bad. Since the 09 AC, he hasn't showed up with the kind of conditioning he needs to win the O. That's the key: achieve his old conditioning with the new mass. Heath did at the AC but still potentially not as good as Kai. Kai hasn't done it 'til now. If he nails his conditioning without losing too much size, he will be better than Jay (doesn't mean they will give it to him though). . Right, I'd tink Jay still has the edge.