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Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« on: August 05, 2010, 12:23:41 PM »
Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
Randolph Capps, Michael E. Fix

The nonpartisan Urban Institute publishes studies, reports, and books on timely topics worthy of public consideration. The views expressed are those of the authors and should not be attributed to the Urban Institute, its trustees, or its funders.


Myth #1: Undocumented immigrants come to the United States to get welfare.

Undocumented men come to the United States almost exclusively to work. In 2003, over 90 percent of undocumented men worked—a rate higher than that for U.S. citizens or legal immigrants (Passel, Capps, and Fix 2004). Undocumented men are younger, less likely to be in school, and less likely to be retired than other men (Capps et al. 2003). Moreover, undocumented immigrants are ineligible for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits (Fix, Zimmermann, and Passel 2001).

Myth #2: Undocumented immigrants all crossed the Mexican border.

Between 60 and 75 percent of the more than 10 million undocumented immigrants entered illegally and without inspection—mostly across the Mexican border. The other 25 to 40 percent entered legally and subsequently overstayed visas or otherwise violated the terms of their admission (Passel 2005).

Myth #3: Undocumented immigrants are all single men.

Over 40 percent of undocumented adults are women, and the majority (54 percent) of undocumented men live in married couples or other families (Passel 2005). Fewer than half of undocumented men are single and unattached.

Myth #4: Most children of the undocumented are unauthorized.

In fact, two-thirds of all children with undocumented parents (about 3 million) are U.S.-born citizens who live in mixed-status families.

Myth #5: A large share of schoolchildren are undocumented.

Nationally in 2000, only 1.5 percent of elementary schoolchildren (enrolled in kindergarten through 5th grade) and 3 percent of secondary children (grades 6-12) were undocumented. Slightly higher shares—5 percent in elementary and 4 percent in secondary schools—had undocumented parents.

Myth #6: Undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes.

Undocumented immigrants pay the same real estate taxes—whether they own homes or taxes are passed through to rents—and the same sales and other consumption taxes as everyone else. The majority of state and local costs of schooling and other services are funded by these taxes. Additionally, the U.S. Social Security Administration has estimated that three quarters of undocumented immigrants pay payroll taxes, and that they contribute $6-7 billion in Social Security funds that they will be unable to claim (Porter 2005).

References

Capps, Randy, Michael Fix, Jeffrey S. Passel, Jason Ost, and Dan Perez-Lopez. 2003. "A Profile of the Low-Wage Immigrant Workforce." Washington, DC: The Urban Institute.

Fix, Michael, Wendy Zimmermann, and Jeffrey S. Passel. 2001. "The Integration of Immigrant Families in the United States." Washington, DC: The Urban Institute.

Passel, Jeffrey S. 2005. "Unauthorized Migrants: Numbers and Characteristics." Washington, DC: Pew Hispanic Center. http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/46.pdf.

Passel, Jeffrey S., Randy Capps, and Michael Fix. 2004. "Undocumented Immigrants: Facts and Figures." Washington, DC: The Urban Institute.

Porter, Eduardo. 2005. "Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security with Billions." New York Times, April 5.

http://www.urban.org/publications/900898.html

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 12:52:03 PM »
good stuff there.
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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 01:23:43 PM »
Indisputable fact no. 1 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens:  they're all here illegally. 

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 01:32:27 PM »
Indisputable fact no. 1 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens:  they're all here illegally. 

Exactly, I don't give a shit why they are here, illegal or undocumented as the PC crowd like to say is still illegal.

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 01:43:30 PM »
Lets let Mexicans in and move blacks out.At least Mexicans work.

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 01:53:03 PM »
Lets let Mexicans in and move blacks out.At least Mexicans work.

 :o

Ooh, that's just wrong!     

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 02:01:09 PM »
Indisputable fact no. 1 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens:  they're all here illegally. 
BAMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 02:17:49 PM »
:o

Ooh, that's just wrong!     

That was a joke BUT Im as far to the right as anyone I know.I dont understand this fear,or dislike or whatever of these people.Republicans think this will be a democrat voting block.I couldnt disagree more!!!

Most Hispanics are as far to the right as people in the South when it comes to social issues.They are hard working people ,most I know work two and three jobs.Why in the world would social conservatives vote for democrats who oppose every view they have?Why would they vote democrat when democrats want to steal their money and give it those who refuse to work.

Republicans need to reach out to these people and explain to them we are with you.We want you to keep your money,we agree with you on social issues.These immigrants could be a HUGE voting block for republicans and conservatives.Simply paint democrats as the party of gay rights,abortion,anti religion and blacks and you have the immigrants with you.

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 02:32:34 PM »
Indisputable fact no. 1 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens:  they're all here illegally. 

Haha.

Thread over.

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 02:36:46 PM »
Indisputable fact no. 1 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens:  they're all here illegally.  

Indisputable fact no. 2 regarding 100 percent of illegal aliens: they broke the law being here illegally, making every last one of them a criminal.
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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 02:42:12 PM »
Great post loco!

The first step to solving a problem is to know the facts.

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 02:49:35 PM »
Great post loco!

The first step to solving a problem is to know the facts.

ozmo knows the facts of cultivating marijuana  :o ;D

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 02:55:10 PM »
ozmo knows the facts of cultivating marijuana  :o ;D

That's hilarious...

I don't know why  ;D
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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 02:56:30 PM »
ozmo knows the facts of cultivating marijuana  :o ;D

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 08:23:35 PM »
Great post loco!

The first step to solving a problem is to know the facts.

Couldn't agree with you more.

there are enough valid, legitimate, reasonable, and justifiable reasons to be opposed to illegal immigration.
One does not need to bolster their arguments against it with lies. If the merits are there, the truth need not be suppressed.
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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 10:38:49 PM »
Lets let Mexicans in and move blacks out.At least Mexicans work.

Funny coming from some inbred mental retard whose only accomplishment in life is drug trafficking, drug sales and drug use...but I forgot, your excuse for your illegal drug use is because you are involved in the impotent man sport of powerlifting where everyone does drugs so therefore it should be acceptable to society that you do it as well. I tell ya, you get any more stupid Queen Mimnaugh and you will be a lab specimen...you already qualify for missing link.
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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2010, 12:44:29 AM »
Lets let Mexicans in and move blacks out.At least Mexicans work.
.  What about whites that don't work. They're good. But blacks aren't?

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Re: Undocumented Immigrants Myths and Reality
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2010, 06:51:50 AM »
.  What about whites that don't work. They're good. But blacks aren't?

Big mal... are you trying to make sense with a self avowed racist? I thought you were smarter than that.  :-\
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