Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?

[Boost]

Anybody can get BIG. you are delusional if you don't think so. Bodybuilding SIZE WISE is ALL DRUGS. the top guys are the top guys because they have better shape then fellow competitors/better conditioned. And most people can't obtain all the drugs top pros have nor how to use them nor can afford them.

Bingo,

All the drugs in the world won't give you the genetic shape/structure of Flex Wheeler or Cedric Mcmillan

[Howard]

Bingo,

All the drugs in the world won't give you the genetic shape/structure of Flex Wheeler or Cedric Mcmillan

EXACTLY! Take the top guys in each wt class at the NPC nationals. In most yrs , 1 or 2 guys stand out in the line up.
Considering most guys in each class are similar in: wt, ht and stature; use similar drugs and diet regimes, it comes down to shape and conditioning.
For example, there are a lot of 5'9" 190's lb, ripped to the bone Lt Hvys that compete. Not too many look anything close to Frank Zane when he won his 3 Olympias.

[Howard]

Pretty soon Howard will be back to teaching and oogling his female students so we won't have to worry about threads like this.

LOL whatever 
Seriously dude , I have been teaching for over 20 yrs and always treat all my students with respect.
I know it sounds corney but I take pride in having ethics as a career teacher. Last yr I had a real victory. I was teaching 2 exam prep classes ( total 42 students) that had failed the state science graduation exam as jr's. As 12th graders they took the re-test after being in my prep class and 100% of them, passed. YUP! All went on to graduate.
I know you guys crack on me and maybe I am not much in bodybuilding. BUT, in all modesty I do a decent job teaching HS science.
Thanks for listening to me brag. Take care, gotta go work legs...yikes

[Archer77]

If drugs were 99,9% of what it takes to be a pro bb then every gym would have at least one pro and there would be big guys everywhere.

Don't get me wrong, there is no bodybuilding as we know it without drugs but without the right genes you're not going to be a huge pro no matter how much you take.

You still gotta train and eat also...

There are thousands of people on >3grams of hormones , most of them still look like shit..

To even compete at the higher levels of "pro" bodybuilding you must use anabolic steroids so being a pro is dependent on drug use.  It is physically impossible for 99.9 percent of the population, including those who are professional bodybuilders, to obtain the size and cuts without drugs, period.

[Master Blaster]

fellas ,, relax with the bombarding noticing me about bodybuilder say this about gh15 say that about gh15,,this is going for 6 years already its not new,,i understand this character got into an icon stage,,i never wished for it ,,the gh15 character came because its TRUE LIFE OF A PROFESSIONAL,,that what it was meant to be ,,stop asking if i want money for biographies,,no i dont need a job i have a contract,,no i dont need money i make enough of it and live very good,,i dont want supplement on my name and i WILL make sure that anyhone that use gh15 name to promote over the counter garbage supplement pay heavily,,the name gh15 is a get big icon name and will for ever remain on getbig no matter what money wil be offer,,the privacy is very important in this indutry when it comes to truth telling,,

if i count the time the name gh15 is said in one single day on boards around the world i would lose my mind ,,i dont need to know about what people say and what people think ,, all i came here for is FOR YOU THE YOUNGER BODYBUILDER TO KNOW THE TRUTH,,

thats that,,

gh15 approved

What are your thoughts on the LST-7 protocol?

[disco_stu]

If drugs were 99,9% of what it takes to be a pro bb then every gym would have at least one pro and there would be big guys everywhere.

Don't get me wrong, there is no bodybuilding as we know it without drugs but without the right genes you're not going to be a huge pro no matter how much you take.

You still gotta train and eat also...

There are thousands of people on >3grams of hormones , most of them still look like shit..

nope. you are interpreting the 99.9% as 1 in 1 thousand of all people..not 1 in 1 thousand of those who do gear.

in most gyms there's a few people doing gear. so you might see a huge guy in every few gyms.

the point im making is that genes define what you will look like with gear, and its response to it.

there are loads of people with great genes who either dont do gear at all, or choose to not do massive amounts of it.

great genes will make you look good, no doubt. But its the massive amounts of drugs that make a pro- make no mistake about it.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Anybody can get BIG. you are delusional if you don't think so. Bodybuilding SIZE WISE is ALL DRUGS. the top guys are the top guys because they have better shape then fellow competitors/better conditioned. And most people can't obtain all the drugs top pros have nor how to use them nor can afford them.

This is correct. When you think about it, per every succesfull bodybuilder there are 100 guys who are as big as he is, but they lack something that makes them lose against the better bodybuilders.

[Disgusted]

Guys, on a serious note here just this once.  What GH15 says on here is pretty much correct. I could nitpick with a few things, but it's not enough to even bother with. At the stage of BBing today, it's all drugs. Howard and other people like to say that take the drugs away and the same guys would be winning and this is absolutely NOT true. In 1990 when they drug tested the Olympia the guy that suffered the most IMO was Lee Haney. The tall guys in general suffered the most. Guys like Labrada and Ray still maintained a pretty decent physique. The exception was Gaspari, but he was all drugs and always was. Genetics is not just one thing!! Look at Dorian and some of the other guys before they started lifting and you would never be able to single them out as being even a top amateur. Genetics is response to drugs, shape of muscle etc, plus of course diet and going to the gym which matters least. Lifting weights is not a complicated matter and never was. Anyone who buys Arnold's Encyclopedia and takes a few weeks to learn will then know enough about how to lift weights. All this other fancy stuff as far as lifting routines is complete BULLSHIT!!

[chaos]

Guys, on a serious note here just this once.  What GH15 says on here is pretty much correct. I could nitpick with a few things, but it's not enough to even bother with. At the stage of BBing today, it's all drugs. Howard and other people like to say that take the drugs away and the same guys would be winning and this is absolutely NOT true. In 1990 when they drug tested the Olympia the guy that suffered the most IMO was Lee Haney. The tall guys in general suffered the most. Guys like Labrada and Ray still maintained a pretty decent physique. The exception was Gaspari, but he was all drugs and always was. Genetics is not just one thing!! Look at Dorian and some of the other guys before they started lifting and you would never be able to single them out as being even a top amateur. Genetics is response to drugs, shape of muscle etc, plus of course diet and going to the gym which matters least. Lifting weights is not a complicated matter and never was. Anyone who buys Arnold's Encyclopedia and takes a few weeks to learn will then know enough about how to lift weights. All this other fancy stuff as far as lifting routines is complete BULLSHIT!!

Ouch, you just crushed alot of egos Jimmy, I hope you're ready for a 10k backlash!!

[Disgusted]

Ouch, you just crushed alot of egos Jimmy, I hope you're ready for a 10k backlash!!

  Well, I was one of those young kids that got lied too.  I went for years wasting my fuking time thinking that I would turn pro naturally. I thought that if I lifted really hard that I would magically grow like the pros did. I tried every Goddamned training routine know to man. Then I found out the truth and if I could go back in time I'd smash some of these fukin liars in the face with a 50 lb dumbbell. At least be honest and let a man make his decision based on the truth instead of pissing down his back and telling him it's raining.

[~UN_$ung~]

Guys, on a serious note here just this once.  What GH15 says on here is pretty much correct. I could nitpick with a few things, but it's not enough to even bother with. At the stage of BBing today, it's all drugs. Howard and other people like to say that take the drugs away and the same guys would be winning and this is absolutely NOT true. In 1990 when they drug tested the Olympia the guy that suffered the most IMO was Lee Haney. The tall guys in general suffered the most. Guys like Labrada and Ray still maintained a pretty decent physique. The exception was Gaspari, but he was all drugs and always was. Genetics is not just one thing!! Look at Dorian and some of the other guys before they started lifting and you would never be able to single them out as being even a top amateur. Genetics is response to drugs, shape of muscle etc, plus of course diet and going to the gym which matters least. Lifting weights is not a complicated matter and never was. Anyone who buys Arnold's Encyclopedia and takes a few weeks to learn will then know enough about how to lift weights. All this other fancy stuff as far as lifting routines is complete BULLSHIT!!

thank you!!!

[tbombz]

the part about training being the least important is off base. some might feel that way if theyve always trained correctly, or at least they never over trained or undertrained. but lifting weights, and doing it correctly (progressive overload, adequate recovery), is just as important as taking steroids. one doesnt work without the other.

[Disgusted]

the part about training being the least important is off base. some might feel that way if theyve always trained correctly, or at least they never over trained or undertrained. but lifting weights, and doing it correctly (progressive overload, adequate recovery), is just as important as taking steroids. one doesnt work without the other.

What I said is not disputable.  Reread what I said very carefully and you might understand why.

[chaos]

What I said is not disputable. 

[tbombz]

What I said is not disputable.  Reread what I said very carefully and you might understand why.

you operate on the assumption that lifting weights isnt complicated. id say that 80% of weighlifters dont understand the basics. id also say that the reason most long term juicers dont look like the pros is because they arent training and eating properly along with their juicing. i know several dudes whove been juicing for years and they look the same as they did when they gained their initial 20ish pounds from jumping on cycle. theyre still lifting the same amount of weight, and still eating the same amount of food.

[flexingtonsteele]

Guys take notes and read this very carefully, Jim/GH15 is giving some fukin knowledge here!

[chaos]

Guys take notes and read this very carefully, Jim/GH15 is giving some fukin knowledge here!

Anything you say, flexingtonsqueal.

[flexingtonsteele]

the part about training being the least important is off base. some might feel that way if theyve always trained correctly, or at least they never over trained or undertrained. but lifting weights, and doing it correctly (progressive overload, adequate recovery), is just as important as taking steroids. one doesnt work without the other.

Seriously taylor you're a good kid. But when u have someone like disgusted telling u how it is, just listen. Because u can learn something.

The guy has been doing this shit for over 25 years, hes got a library of books at his house that most men would be afraid to look at, plus more real life experience w/success than most people who have ever touched a weight.

Just sit back and read what he says and learn something bro!

[flexingtonsteele]

Anything you say, flexingtonsqueal.

so you're saying he doesnt know what hes talking about?

[chaos]

so you're saying he doesnt know what hes talking about?

Is that what you read?

[flexingtonsteele]

Is that what you read?

no i read "anything you say flexingtonsqueal"

[tbombz]

Seriously taylor you're a good kid. But when u have someone like disgusted telling u how it is, just listen. Because u can learn something.

The guy has been doing this shit for over 25 years, hes got a library of books at his house that most men would be afraid to look at, plus more real life experience w/success than most people who have ever touched a weight.

Just sit back and read what he says and learn something bro!

hes saying he wishes people would have told him the truth. telling people that only steroids matter, and training really doesnt mean much, is just wrong. maybe theres 1 or 2 guys out there who can get on juice, never make any strength gains, and get some good results. but nobody is ever going to get huge unless they are consistantly getting stronger.

 

[chaos]

no i read "anything you say flexingtonsqueal"

OK so how did you get "so you're saying he doesnt know what hes talking about?" out of that?

LOL

[flexingtonsteele]

OK so how did you get "so you're saying he doesnt know what hes talking about?" out of that?

LOL

tell me what u meant then chaos.........

[chaos]

tell me what u meant then chaos.........

Exactly what I posted, flexingtonsqueal.