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Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« on: August 07, 2010, 08:09:12 PM »
The noose is getting tighter for Lance Armstrong regarding PED's. My prediction is that when he finally admits to using them, and he will. That he will say he only used them because he lost a testicle and he wasn't producing the same amount of hormones as all the other riders. He will try to to use his cancer as an excuse for using PED's. And most people will end up believing that he should have been able to use them since his testes weren't producing the same amount of hormones as the rest of the riders. He will look for sympathy and get it. He will also say that he passed 100s of drug tests because he only used a min/amount . It will be interesting to see how he tries to connect the dots with blood doping and hormone levels.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 08:30:35 PM »
I don't think he'll admit to it in the near future, as long as it's based on testimony and no positive test/sanction he can say everyone else is lying. It's just too big of a lie, he'll keep denying for a long time, maybe until he dies.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 08:33:25 PM »
I don't think he'll admit to it in the near future, as long as it's based on testimony and no positive test/sanction he can say everyone else is lying. It's just too big of a lie, he'll keep denying for a long time, maybe until he dies.

I believe the feds are now involved and although he has a lot of protection thru live strong and the kids with cancer. Rumors are he is not a well like man and has many enemies. Guys like him don't win in the end.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 08:43:34 PM »
I believe the feds are now involved and although he has a lot of protection thru live strong and the kids with cancer. Rumors are he is not a well like man and has many enemies. Guys like him don't win in the end.
It is given that the best guys in his sport all use some form of PED's. The reality is that if you dummy up and act nice and deny deny deny deny, you can survive the scandel. The officals in any sport want it to look like only a few guys cheat and use drugs in any sport. That way it is the few cheaters not the officials looking the other way hehehe The name of the game is cover your ass.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 08:47:22 PM »
It is given that the best guys in his sport all use some form of PED's. The reality is that if you dummy up and act nice and deny deny deny deny, you can survive the scandel. The officals in any sport want it to look like only a few guys cheat and use drugs in any sport. That way it is the few cheaters not the officials looking the other way hehehe The name of the game is cover your ass.

True,but they are starting to come out of the wood work against Lance. He can lie to the press all day long. But if he lies to a Grand Jury, than consequences will never be the same. He then would have dun goofed.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 08:57:55 PM »
he will always deny it.

butt WTF?  we got 2 wars going on, in a recession, high unemployment.  the country is on the brink of bankruptcy, and this is what we do?  we go after people who ride bikes and won races in the past?

WHO FUCKING CARES!  almost every pro athlete is likely using something.
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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 09:10:58 PM »
True,but they are starting to come out of the wood work against Lance. He can lie to the press all day long. But if he lies to a Grand Jury, than consequences will never be the same. He then would have dun goofed.
::) yup, all 2 or 3 of them. 

Epic jealousy of one of the greatest athletes of the last century by a few 2nd tier riders.  The French don't count because, well, they're the French.  They trash their own riders, let alone a foreigner winning their Tour.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 09:38:11 PM »
he will always deny it.

butt WTF?  we got 2 wars going on, in a recession, high unemployment.  the country is on the brink of bankruptcy, and this is what we do?  we go after people who ride bikes and won races in the past?

WHO FUCKING CARES!  almost every pro athlete is likely using something.
It is up to each sport to develop and enforce banned drugs, end of story.
Congress spent more time in Balco and baseball roid hearings then they did over health care or war funding/ geesh!

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 11:43:37 PM »
he will always deny it.

butt WTF?  we got 2 wars going on, in a recession, high unemployment.  the country is on the brink of bankruptcy, and this is what we do?  we go after people who ride bikes and won races in the past?

WHO FUCKING CARES!  almost every pro athlete is likely using something.

Whats wrong, do you too have 1 nut. For christ sakes are you really pissed because we are talking about hormones/drugs and not a war (on a bodybuilding board?) Your a fucking creepy dude.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 11:46:27 PM »
he will always deny it.

butt WTF?  we got 2 wars going on, in a recession, high unemployment.  the country is on the brink of bankruptcy, and this is what we do?  we go after people who ride bikes and won races in the past?

WHO FUCKING CARES!  almost every pro athlete is likely using something.

You obviously don't watch the news. Lance is going down bro. The heat is turned up, and its not going to stop. So what is it, do you have cancer of the cock or something?

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 12:21:55 AM »
I don't think he'll admit to using PEDs.  For guys like him, they are the world and we schlubs are privileged to be on it. 

Without a syringe with dope and Armstrong's DNA, I just don't see any kind of legal procedure taking him down. 

Were cycling on a par with the NFL, NBA, etc it might be a different scenario for him.  He's engendered too much good will through his foundation.       

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 01:07:48 AM »
Besides, there are no drugs in cycling.  Just ask Tammy Thomas.   She'll put you on the straight and narrow.




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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 01:54:53 AM »
Besides, there are no drugs in cycling.  Just ask Tammy Thomas.   She'll put you on the straight and narrow.




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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2010, 05:55:39 AM »
You obviously don't watch the news. Lance is going down bro. The heat is turned up, and its not going to stop. So what is it, do you have cancer of the cock or something?

what the hell are you talking about?  i just said who cares if he juiced, they all do.   i was expressing my frustration at the waste of time and money doing this "investigation," rather than spending it on more pressing issues.

so whay does that make me have "one nut," or "cancer of the penis?"   
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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2010, 06:24:31 AM »
the tour de france has a vested interest in Armstrong not be exposed. Think about it, when Armstrong retired Landis stepped into the same role, same team, same trainers same everything yet he was caught. But for 8 years Armstrong was not? This tell us that Landis was thrown under the bus and made an example of.

the tour wants Armstrong to just go away already but keep denying everything. If he is exposed it literally kills the tour, no one will watch, no one, not even the french.
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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2010, 07:03:46 AM »
I've been a cycling fan for many years (which is the only sport that gives BB a run for its money in the juice department by the way), including Lance's 7 year reign, and can see nothing good come out of these type of witchhunts. For one a shitload of PUBLIC money is going to be spent on trying to build a case against someone who makes A LOT of people happy and has given, gives and will give people hope. And I'm not even a fan of Lance mind you, I'm a full-blown (no pun intended) detractor.

Instead, these public funds, which could be put to MUCH BETTER use, like building schools, cleaning up the gulf spill, are going to act as some sort of ego trip for some guy that is suffering from and obvious rampant case of sports McCarthyism.

Novitzky, please have heart attack, jump in front of a car, pick up a gun and shoot yourself.

You inmense stinking pile of shit.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2010, 07:06:04 AM »
I don't think he'll admit to it in the near future, as long as it's based on testimony and no positive test/sanction he can say everyone else is lying. It's just too big of a lie, he'll keep denying for a long time, maybe until he dies.

Lance did indeed test positive for EPO 6 times.

It was covered up pretty well though.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2010, 07:10:31 AM »
I believe the feds are now involved and although he has a lot of protection thru live strong and the kids with cancer. Rumors are he is not a well like man and has many enemies. Guys like him don't win in the end.

That is precisely the problem: He painted himself into a corner. He has the quintesential Texas mentality: If you don't really, really, really like him then you must really, really, really hate him. And he acted along those terms, which made him many friends, but also many enemies.

Although the Texan has many fans, he's alienated some of his detractors such a degree that they're extremely happy to line up and give testimony against him.

This is a corner Lance painted himself into. Courtesy of his backward mentality.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2010, 07:32:12 AM »
True,but they are starting to come out of the wood work against Lance. He can lie to the press all day long. But if he lies to a Grand Jury, than consequences will never be the same. He then would have dun goofed.

haha that never gets old  ;D

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2010, 09:15:06 AM »
If they want to go after Lance all they have to do is re-test all his 1999 samples. To all those in the not-know 1999 marks the year in which Lance won his 1st Tour de France. Back then EPO use was widespread, the entire peloton was on it. The first UCI-sponsored EPO tests began in the year 2000. Three or four years ago, some French agency decided to re-test the 1999 samples and voilá! four samples taken from Lance tested positive for EPO. The scandal never went any further because the UCI (International Cyclists Union) decided to bury the scandal.

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 09:53:13 AM »
Cycling is a very dirty sport with big money and big egos that want/need results.

The teams have the funding to hire the best "drug" doctors in the world... who can stay one step ahead of the testing protocols and create gear that cannot be detected. It's literally a science.

Also, most teams know when/where they're going to have a "surprise" blood test. These docs have the ability to create gear(and time it perfect) that won't get detected... they have it down to a matter of 2-3 hour windows. Then, if the UCI discovers that kind of gear(and now have a test for it),  the docs move on to create another model for the next season.

LA is the leader of the cycling mafia and has soooo much power in that arena. It's a dirty sport. I really doubt he'll ever get popped...   he'll just continue to say, "I've never tested positive"   rather than, "I've never taken PED's" 

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Re: Lance Armstrong, PED's and my prediction
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2010, 10:04:20 AM »
It is given that the best guys in his sport all use some form of PED's. The reality is that if you dummy up and act nice and deny deny deny deny, you can survive the scandel. The officals in any sport want it to look like only a few guys cheat and use drugs in any sport. That way it is the few cheaters not the officials looking the other way hehehe The name of the game is cover your ass.
Yeah, Marion Jones was stupid for admitting it. She cost herself and her team mates their gold medals. And she still could be running now...