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BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« on: August 08, 2010, 11:10:46 PM »
Hello, I have read this forum for years now and always found it an amusing source of entertainment. lately, though, i have been frustrated with the idiotic misinformation spread by self proclaimed pseudo gurus such as gh15. I'm here to provide a source of realistic knowledge as to the true hormone usage in the upper echelons of competitive bodybuilding.

I was a top 3 placing national competitor in my twenties. I placed second in my weight class (super heavyweight) a number of times at the national level, effectively just missing an IFBB pro card. I stopped competing because I wanted to raise a family in good health. I am still well immersed in the bodybuilding industry, and while I stopped a couple years ago, I spent nearly a decade giving hormone advice to competitors as a "guru."

What do the pros really use?
Despite what some would like to believe, not many guys go over 2-2.5 grams of test per week. The typical hormone amount of a mid-level IFBB pro is about 5-6 grams of injectable hormones per week. In addition add in various cycles of orals (usually just dianabol and anadrol - used both offseason and precontest to 'fill out'). 20+ iu's of gh is common, especially as the insulin usage increases as well. Insulin is the #1 factor in creating the biggest bodybuilders. Most successful pros are scared to eat food without using slin. Most pros are on a shitload of random peptides, not because they do a whole lot but because they want every single miniscule edge that may be possible. That means add in IGF-1, MGF and PGF into the mix. Also, they never came off. "off cycle" means being on test, eq, gh and slin.

How common is synthol?
everyone uses site enhancement oils, almost always in the biceps, calves and delts. I dont know any IFBB pro who hasnt used synthol. the whole fst-7 training protocol that is so popular today is entirely based around the usage of synthol.

What causes the 'GH GUT?'
too much insulin over a short period of time. its not intestinal enlargement pushing out the stomach walls. While there are a host of IGF-1 receptors in the intestines, the localized growth that occurs isnt enough to permanentally stretch the abdominal muscle walls, that is absurd. Excessive insulin usage over a short period of time (usually to put on 20-30lbs 6 months or a year) leads to visceral fat buildup. In addition, the constant contest yo-yo dieting combined with the massive over-eating of "bulking" leads to visceral fat buildup that is never lost because the diets dont last long enough to effect it. Add in carb loading, you will see huge guts with distention.

Is anyone really natural?
very few natural bodybuilders are actually natural. To be a high placing natural bodybuilder (in the natural leagues) you need to be at least using a fair amount of otc prohormones/designer steroids. Superdrol and pheraplex are two favorites among the natural crowd. A fair amount of naturals take 400-500mg's/week of test. These are usually the top, top guys. Anavar is also popular. Of course the guys that have been doing it for a while and still compete/market their natural physique are on 5-10 iu's of gh.

Hopefully this can clear up any misinformation that circulates on the board. Feel free to ask any questions and I may be able to answer. Finally, despite what clowns like gh15 might tell you; you cannot determine what hormones somebody is on based on what their appearance. Thats retarded. The best you could do is say 'hes watery, bloated and has a red face, maybe hes on anadrol.' Anything more than that is ignorant speculation.

- BFG


If even half of this is true,, very interesting!! :-\ :-\

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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 11:15:05 PM »
Yeah I think everyone read the thread and expressed their opinion on it in it's own thread.

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 12:14:46 AM »
I think its safe to say, most National level athletes spend about $10,000-$15,000 on gear getting ready for a show.I know most light heavyweights plus use 2-3 grams of test, 10-18 iu's of GH,
The average cycle for a National bodybuilder is this.Testosterone, Primobolan, Trenbalone, HGH, IGF-1, Insulin( god knows why) Winstrol, Anavar,Haloteston  the last 4-5 weeks) Arremedex,Masterone,Cytodren( the last 2 weeks, I think more then 4 days is enough),Ephedra or Clen,Cytomel or T3. Lasex, or some other water diuretic,.
Now I dont beleive you need all this, but this what most of them take.You also got to remember, a good amount use Nubaine, Loritabs, GHB,Weed,to help them deal with the diet.
Why do you think alot of them are off, on stage.They are taking so much stuff, there body doesnt always react the way they want it to.The body is so saturated with so many anabolics that they sometimes hold water, or they smooth out because the anabolic they got wasnt real.For instance Mexican Winny was found to have Testosterone in it.This was a test done by an indepdent lab for Planet Muscle.
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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 01:08:03 AM »
10-15k hmmmm

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 03:28:44 AM »
I think it's safe to say Gh15 is a dicksucking shitbag. 

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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 05:09:23 AM »
I think its safe to say, most National level athletes spend about $10,000-$15,000 on gear getting ready for a show.I know most light heavyweights plus use 2-3 grams of test, 10-18 iu's of GH,
The average cycle for a National bodybuilder is this.Testosterone, Primobolan, Trenbalone, HGH, IGF-1, Insulin( god knows why) Winstrol, Anavar,Haloteston  the last 4-5 weeks) Arremedex,Masterone,Cytodren( the last 2 weeks, I think more then 4 days is enough),Ephedra or Clen,Cytomel or T3. Lasex, or some other water diuretic,.
Now I dont beleive you need all this, but this what most of them take.You also got to remember, a good amount use Nubaine, Loritabs, GHB,Weed,to help them deal with the diet.
Why do you think alot of them are off, on stage.They are taking so much stuff, there body doesnt always react the way they want it to.The body is so saturated with so many anabolics that they sometimes hold water, or they smooth out because the anabolic they got wasnt real.For instance Mexican Winny was found to have Testosterone in it.This was a test done by an indepdent lab for Planet Muscle.
Its harder to turn pro then be a pro, imo

that's alotta rodent pellets.  what did guys during shawn, kev and flex's era take as amateurs?  the last 3 classes at the nationals and usa look like s##t.  maybe they need to go back to ole school regimes.

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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 08:25:20 AM »
Hello, I have read this forum for years now and always found it an amusing source of entertainment. lately, though, i have been frustrated with the idiotic misinformation spread by self proclaimed pseudo gurus such as gh15. I'm here to provide a source of realistic knowledge as to the true hormone usage in the upper echelons of competitive bodybuilding.

I was a top 3 placing national competitor in my twenties. I placed second in my weight class (super heavyweight) a number of times at the national level, effectively just missing an IFBB pro card. I stopped competing because I wanted to raise a family in good health. I am still well immersed in the bodybuilding industry, and while I stopped a couple years ago, I spent nearly a decade giving hormone advice to competitors as a "guru."

What do the pros really use?
Despite what some would like to believe, not many guys go over 2-2.5 grams of test per week. The typical hormone amount of a mid-level IFBB pro is about 5-6 grams of injectable hormones per week. In addition add in various cycles of orals (usually just dianabol and anadrol - used both offseason and precontest to 'fill out'). 20+ iu's of gh is common, especially as the insulin usage increases as well. Insulin is the #1 factor in creating the biggest bodybuilders. Most successful pros are scared to eat food without using slin. Most pros are on a shitload of random peptides, not because they do a whole lot but because they want every single miniscule edge that may be possible. That means add in IGF-1, MGF and PGF into the mix. Also, they never came off. "off cycle" means being on test, eq, gh and slin.

How common is synthol?
everyone uses site enhancement oils, almost always in the biceps, calves and delts. I dont know any IFBB pro who hasnt used synthol. the whole fst-7 training protocol that is so popular today is entirely based around the usage of synthol.

What causes the 'GH GUT?'
too much insulin over a short period of time. its not intestinal enlargement pushing out the stomach walls. While there are a host of IGF-1 receptors in the intestines, the localized growth that occurs isnt enough to permanentally stretch the abdominal muscle walls, that is absurd. Excessive insulin usage over a short period of time (usually to put on 20-30lbs 6 months or a year) leads to visceral fat buildup. In addition, the constant contest yo-yo dieting combined with the massive over-eating of "bulking" leads to visceral fat buildup that is never lost because the diets dont last long enough to effect it. Add in carb loading, you will see huge guts with distention.

Is anyone really natural?
very few natural bodybuilders are actually natural. To be a high placing natural bodybuilder (in the natural leagues) you need to be at least using a fair amount of otc prohormones/designer steroids. Superdrol and pheraplex are two favorites among the natural crowd. A fair amount of naturals take 400-500mg's/week of test. These are usually the top, top guys. Anavar is also popular. Of course the guys that have been doing it for a while and still compete/market their natural physique are on 5-10 iu's of gh.

Hopefully this can clear up any misinformation that circulates on the board. Feel free to ask any questions and I may be able to answer. Finally, despite what clowns like gh15 might tell you; you cannot determine what hormones somebody is on based on what their appearance. Thats retarded. The best you could do is say 'hes watery, bloated and has a red face, maybe hes on anadrol.' Anything more than that is ignorant speculation.

- BFG


If even half of this is true,, very interesting!! :-\ :-\


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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 08:28:07 AM »
showed this to my buddy who competes and first thing he said was sounds like DP

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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 08:32:26 AM »
showed this to my buddy who competes and first thing he said was sounds like DP

Can you put that in non-porn terms?

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 08:38:28 AM »
So is this a tribute thread about another thread or something ???

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Re: BFG...New Light on things!?!?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 09:43:27 AM »
It is probably gh15 covering his ass.  He has been outed so many times on here it is about time he becomes someone else.  Perfect timing on his part.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 10:43:28 AM »
Can you put that in non-porn terms?

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 10:55:37 AM »
haha this makes me realize how truly futile it is to try to 'get big muscles' naturally.

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 11:46:25 AM »
haha this makes me realize how truly futile it is to try to 'get big muscles' naturally.

Most of the old time strong men are either tiny or obese. The whole "muscle man" look is a fake steroid pipe dream.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2010, 01:43:06 PM »
Most of the old time strong men are either tiny or obese. The whole "muscle man" look is a fake steroid pipe dream.

true, also i makes you realise that all those dudes you see walking around in public who are not pro big but 'realistic' big, are also on something as well so its not actually 'realistic'

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 04:27:18 PM »
I hate to tell you how off some of this math is.  Many if not most peep use ug gear, which is dirt cheap, 20 bux a bottle.  Those figures are laughable.