Author Topic: So Con Edison owns 50% of the Ground Zero mosque site. Time to pull the plug!  (Read 4680 times)

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Half-baked mosque
Developer owns only part of site

By ISABEL VINCENT and MELLISA KLEIN

Not so fast.

The developers of the controversial mosque proposed near Ground Zero own only half the site where they want to construct the $100 million building, The Post has learned.

One of the two buildings on Park Place is owned by Con Edison, even though Soho Properties told officials and the public that it owns the entire parcel. And any potential sale by Con Ed faces a review by the state Public Service Commission.

“We never heard anything about Con Ed whatsoever,” said a stunned Julie Menin, the chairwoman of Community Board 1, which passed a May resolution supporting the mosque.

Daisy Khan, one of the mosque’s organizers, told The Post last week that both buildings on Park Place are needed to house the worship and cultural center. But she claimed ignorance about the Con Ed ownership of 49-51 Park Place and referred questions to Soho Properties, which bought the building at 45-47 Park Place in 2009.

Rep. Peter King, who opposes the mosque, said the developers seemed to be “operating under false pretenses.”

“I wonder what else they are hiding,” said King (R-LI). “If we can’t have the full truth on this, what can we believe?”


Sharif El-Gamal, the head of Soho Properties, first came forward in 2006 seeking to buy the empty building at 45-47 Park Place, said Melvin Pomerantz, whose family owned the property.

Pomerantz said El-Gamal eventually raised $4.8 million cash for 45-47 Park Place. El- Gamal paid an extra $700,000 to take over the lease with Con Ed for the building next door. The lease expires in 2071.

The two buildings were connected years ago — common walls were taken down — and housed a Burlington Coat Factory store.

Con Ed said El-Gamal told the utility in February that he wanted to exercise the purchase option in his $33,000- a-year lease for the former substation.

The utility is now doing an appraisal to determine the property value, and it would be up to El-Gamal to decide whether to accept the price, the utility said. The price is estimated at $10 million to $20 million.

“We are following our legal obligations under the lease. We will not allow other considerations to enter into this transaction,” Con Ed said.

The sale proposal will go to the Public Service Commission, where it could possibly face a vote by a five-member board controlled by Gov. Paterson.

El-Gamal told The Post his long-term lease was equivalent to ownership and that it even allowed him to demolish the building. Still, he said, he was determined to buy the property. “The cost is not an issue,” he said.

The building at 45-45 Park Place had been on the market for years with a sale price that at one point was $18 million. It was owned by Stephen Pomerantz, who died in 2006. His widow, Kukiko Mitani, said she was in debt and desperate to unload the property even at a bargain price of $4.8 million to El- Gamal.

She said she thought El-Gamal wanted to build condos, not a mosque — but he should build whatever he wants.

The Web site for the mosque and community-center project, now called Park 51, says it will be financed “with a mix of equity, financing and contributions.”

But just $200 in donations has come in so far, according to Ameena Meer, head of Muslims for Peace, the nonprofit accepting the contributions.

49-51 Park Place, owned by Con Edison, is being appraised for a possible sale to Soho Properties, the developer behind the controversial mosque. Sharif El-Gamal, the principal of Soho Properties, paid $700,000 to take over the 99-year lease in 2009.

Soho Properties spent $4.8 million to buy 45-47 Park Place in 2009. The building, which used to house a Burlington Coat Factory, had been on the market for years with a sale price that once reached $18 million.

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SHOCKER! Is it surprising that it turns out these snakes don't even outright own the entire property? Why was this shit not looked into during the fury to grant them authorization to build this abomination?  ::)

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Lazio: Let's pull plug on mosque
By CHUCK BENNETT and ISABEL VINCENT


GOP gubernatorial hopeful Rick Lazio yesterday called on the Public Service Commission to zap the Ground Zero mosque because of the revelation that Con Ed owns half the site.

"As governor I will appoint commissioners . . . who, like me, oppose this group's plan to build a mosque at Ground Zero -- and I encourage New Yorkers to call the Public Service commissioners and tell them the same," he said.

The disclosure in Sunday's Post about the property's ownership proves the mosque's developers "have been operating under false pretenses," he said.

The commission, which oversees utility rate hikes, may get to weigh in on the controversial plan if Con Ed sells its building on Park Place to mosque developer Sharif El-Gamal.

El-Gamal, of Soho Properties, paid $700,000 last year to take over a 99-year lease on the utility's building and has said he wants to buy it outright.

That could trigger a review by the commission, whose five members are appointed by the governor.

They have the power to reject a sale if it could impact the utility's capacity to deliver services.

Assemblyman Richard Brodsky (D-Westchester), who chairs the committee on corporation, authorities and commissions, personally opposes the mosque, saying, "This is the site of mass murder. It would be much better if the parties could get together and figure out something that is reasonable."

But Brodsky, a candidate for attorney general, said he won't get involved.

"The law has to be fairly applied to everyone without regard to religious views," he said.

Even the PSC is not sure it will have a say.

"As of today, we are not sure if this issue will even come before the commission for a determination," said spokesman James Denn.

Gov. Paterson, who supports the mosque, won't get involved, said his spokesman Morgan Hook.

Con Ed said it would follow its "legal obligations under the lease" and not consider outside factors.

Last week, the city's Landmark Preservation Commission gave the green light for Soho Properties to demolish the connected buildings, which the mosque would replace.

In all, the project is budgeted at $100 million and would include a community center, swimming pool and café.

The buildings formerly housed a Burlington Coat Factory but sat vacant for years.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/lazio_let_pull_plug_on_mosque_OAn7Mv9ijyGZsoGM8S4OxK#ixzz0w7aQbdTM


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I already signed up to volunteer and campaigin for November for anyone against Cuomo.  

BF - i'm not kidding - if they ever vbreak ground I will go spill pigs blood on the site and video it.  I will post it here first.  


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I already signed up to volunteer and campaigin for November for anyone against Cuomo.  

BF - i'm not kidding - if they ever vbreak ground I will go spill pigs blood on the site and video it.  I will post it here first.  



I'm just amazed that it took this long for this shit to come out. Where was the due diligence by the zoning committee in approving this shit? Couple this with the fact that it's 9 years later and yet there is still no rebuilding of the church that stood at the WTC and it's clear what the agenda is here.

The real question is, "How much more shady shit is going on with this mosque?" Given the amount of double talking going on by the leader of this project, I'd say, "a lot".

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I'm just amazed that it took this long for this shit to come out. Where was the due diligence by the zoning committee in approving this shit? Couple this with the fact that it's 9 years and let there is still no rebuilding of the church that stood at the WTC and it's clear what the agenda is here.

The real question is, "How much more shady shit is going on with this mosque?" Given the amount of double talking going on by the leader of this project, I'd say, "a lot".

BF - my thread, which directly quotes the imam says everything you need to know.  Obama is behind this lock stock and barrell. 

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BF - my thread, which directly quotes the imam says everything you need to know.  Obama is behind this lock stock and barrell. 

Raymond Ibrahim touched on a great point about this, though. It's gotten people talking about Islam, and not in the positive way the Muslim-pandering snakes wanted. I'll see if I can find the article he wrote.

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Raymond Ibrahim touched on a great point about this, though. It's gotten people talking about Islam, and not in the positive way the Muslim-pandering snakes wanted. I'll see if I can find the article he wrote.

Thats' because there are already hundreds of mosques all over the city, there are vacant properties all over the city where this thing can go, the funding of this thing is beyond dubious, its an obvious insult and meant to provoke a situation, etc. 

This has nothing to do with the constitution. 

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Thats' because there are already hundreds of mosques all over the city, there are vacant properties all over the city where this thing can go, the funding of this thing is beyond dubious, its an obvious insult and meant to provoke a situation, etc. 

This has nothing to do with the constitution. 

Exactly.

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Bump for the sheep!  8)

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Bump for the sheep!  8)

Where are all the left wing useful idiots crying about:

1.  Separation of Church and State now that we know obama is funding the Imam on the world conquest tour?

2.  The taking this property off the tax rolls so a mosque can go there meaning less tax revenue to the City to pay for social programs?

I guess tax breaks for businesses are bad while tax breaks for mosques are good now? 

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Where are all the left wing useful idiots crying about:

1.  Separation of Church and State now that we know obama is funding the Imam on the world conquest tour?

2.  The taking this property off the tax rolls so a mosque can go there meaning less tax revenue to the City to pay for social programs?

I guess tax breaks for businesses are bad while tax breaks for mosques are good now? 

Separation of Church and State only matters when it involves Christians or Jews.  8)

Muslims = good, tolerant people who contribute lots of great things to the world.  ::)

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Bump.  8)

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Bump for sheeple to educate themselves.

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Bump for sheeple to educate themselves.

They don't care - so long as they have their bumper sticker slogans to latch on to. 

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Con Edison said Friday in a statement that its action is "consistent with the law and our core beliefs." If an independent appraiser approves of the price, the property will be sold, the company said.

"We will not allow other considerations to enter into this transaction," the utility said. "This is New York, a rich diverse city. Con Edison's values call for respecting people without regard to their racial, ethnic, or religious orientation. They are all our customers."

The Associated Press

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Con Ed can approve the sale. Whether the commission that has to review all Con Ed sales does is another story. And whether this will be done before their groundbreaking ceremony is another question.

Thanks for the quote. It didn't prove anything again. Seems to be a recurring theme with you and your posts. Bet you had quite the grin on your face when you copy/pasted it.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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don't be argry, you were born to be a loser ;D

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don't be argry, you were born to be a loser. ;D

LOL!

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sorry angry ::)

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nice try to change the subject ,but i proved your post is wrong ;D

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nice try to change the subject ,but i proved your post is wrong ;D

As I've already pointed out (don't worry, I know reading comprehension is hard for you), your copy/pasted statement didn't prove anything.

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nice try to change the subject ,but i proved your post is wrong ;D

Blacken700 - take a few months off from the politics board, go take a few GED classes or hooked on phonics of some sort, and come back.  

Your posts are getting worse and are barely readable.    

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As I've already pointed out (don't worry, I know reading comprehension is hard for you), your copy/pasted statement didn't prove anything.




just keep telling yourself that

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just keep telling yourself that

Look, I'm sorry that you're retarded. Get off my nuts and educate yourself.