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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2010, 11:37:31 AM »

Flex had all the tools to win the big show, and every other show he could enter. But his mental game with himself always cost him.

If you have followed his career for any decent length of time, you will see he's a liar, fake, walking contradiction and he's got some serious issues upstairs.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2010, 11:46:30 AM »
Yep, you are correct Youngblood

Flex training arms start @ 3:18, now Mesomorph, tell me those arms aren't "hard"

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2010, 04:17:56 PM »
flex's worst problem as a bodybuilder is he stopped worrying about being the best flex, and started worrying WAY too much about looking like other people.

and its a shame, cause they should have been worrying about lookin like him...but its a tough situaltion.......you finish second, adn look perfect, an dlose toa bigger guy..........and people are telling you you have to gain more weight.  i certainly dont blame him.


the point is, he should have jut focused on being flex........not on attaining ronnies or dorians size.  not only might he have done better later on, he might just have saved his health



flex;s other problem was he didnt like to diet, and with his structure, at most shows, he could get away with it







oh.........and NINJAS..............NINJ AS also caused problems fro kenny,




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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2010, 03:08:23 AM »
1990 junior nats, great physique. Wonder what he weighed there.
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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2010, 03:38:02 AM »
That is BB right there..

Levrone And Kenny the best of the past 30 years in my eyes.

There have been others along the way over those past 3 decades Like Rory , Newman , Benfatto and Paris but Kev and Flex now thats BB to me.


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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2010, 03:42:49 AM »
1990 junior nats, great physique. Wonder what he weighed there.
Probably under or just around 200 pounds.

Un-Sung, I agree. I think his accident had to do with that. He said on his video that he went to the 1994 Mr. Olympia and he didn't think he could hang with those "monsters".

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2010, 05:33:18 AM »
It's no wonder he made a fortune in this sport.  He's one of the top 5 ever.

I would agree that he is in the top 5 of all time.  The package he brought to the 1993 Arnold was beyond belief.  I respect what he was able to accomplish with his physique... but financially speaking, Flex was incompetent, arrogant and foolish.

I'd guess that Flex made about 2 million over his BBing career, but he spent the money as soon as he got it.  Life was grand for a few years... lavish lifestyle, expensive houses and multiple high end cars with every upgrade you can think of, but he didn't have a "plan B".  Glory days don't last forever.  

No one can take the amount of AAS he was taking (over 10 years with no break) and not ruin their health... and that's exactly what happened to him.  I wonder how his finances are today?  Probably doesn't have a pot to piss in.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2010, 06:05:48 AM »
Someone mention the 1993 Arnold? For some odd reason, this is the only clip available. I wonder why Arnold hasn't released the full 1993 Arnold Classic or has released all of them on DVD?

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2010, 06:37:23 AM »
In that Mass Construction clip his arms look very "oiled up" - nowhere near the definition or vascularity of Coleman's arms.

I think he really destroyed his physique by using so much oil - a 93 ASC Flex was pure perfection but by 98 he already screwed his body up. To me it was not even close between Coleman and Flex in the  98 Mr. Olympia.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2010, 06:46:43 AM »
In that Mass Construction clip his arms look very "oiled up" - nowhere near the definition or vascularity of Coleman's arms.

I think he really destroyed his physique by using so much oil - a 93 ASC Flex was pure perfection but by 98 he already screwed his body up. To me it was not even close between Coleman and Flex in the  98 Mr. Olympia.
In the Mass Construction vid, it was after the 1996 Mr. O, apparently he is very carb up. And his arms looked lik that back in 1995 for the Mr. O as well, so I doubt it's oil. But in the 1997 Arnold his arms were reminisent of the 1993 Flex---he was down to 224 for the 97 Arnold. He never had vascular arms, but their hardness was dependant on his weight---but it was a diff story after 98.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2010, 06:51:28 AM »
Flex Wheeler = greatest physique of all time

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2010, 07:16:34 AM »
flex's worst problem as a bodybuilder is he stopped worrying about being the best flex, and started worrying WAY too much about looking like other people.

and its a shame, cause they should have been worrying about lookin like him...but its a tough situaltion.......you finish second, adn look perfect, an dlose toa bigger guy..........and people are telling you you have to gain more weight.  i certainly dont blame him.


the point is, he should have jut focused on being flex........not on attaining ronnies or dorians size.  not only might he have done better later on, he might just have saved his health



flex;s other problem was he didnt like to diet, and with his structure, at most shows, he could get away with it







oh.........and NINJAS..............NINJ AS also caused problems fro kenny,




 :D :D



Flex's only problem was the judging, which has always been controversial in this sport mind you. When he showed up in 92 in his best shape... it kinda coincided with Dorian Yates' big-as-a-house look. The judging was presented with two different packages and made a pivotal decision in the history of the sport: They went with the DY package. There is very little you can do as a bodybuilder if the judges are looking for SUVs and you're a Ferrari California. I mean, you can follow their advice and ruin your health and bank account.

IMO, at that time, the judges made the worst decision in the history of the sport.


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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2010, 07:34:36 AM »


Flex's only problem was the judging, which has always been controversial in this sport mind you. When he showed up in 92 in his best shape... it kinda coincided with Dorian Yates' big-as-a-house look. The judging was presented with two different packages and made a pivotal decision in the history of the sport: They went with the DY package. There is very little you can do as a bodybuilder if the judges are looking for SUVs and you're a Ferrari California. I mean, you can follow their advice and ruin your health and bank account.

IMO, at that time, the judges made the worst decision in the history of the sport.



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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2010, 07:35:42 AM »
Flex had one of the best physique's of all time, but I've always liked Shawn Ray better.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2010, 08:02:31 AM »
Flex had one of the best physique's of all time, but I've always liked Shawn Ray better.
I liked Shawn as well, but Shawn's legs tended to be too big for his upper body, specifically his arms. Shawn seemed to have to keep his legs in check. In 1993 Olympia, Flex's waist was smaller than Shawn's or Lebrada's.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2010, 08:10:50 AM »
I liked Shawn as well, but Shawn's legs tended to be too big for his upper body, specifically his arms. Shawn seemed to have to keep his legs in check. In 1993 Olympia, Flex's waist was smaller than Shawn's or Lebrada's.

levrone also had that problem, as was said, the judges went the direction of yates' physique, otherwise the rookie pro (kevin) wouldve won the o in his debut, instead he came 3rd. same with flex in 93, yes that changed bbing for the worst... :-\

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2010, 08:14:30 AM »
In that Mass Construction clip his arms look very "oiled up" - nowhere near the definition or vascularity of Coleman's arms.

I think he really destroyed his physique by using so much oil - a 93 ASC Flex was pure perfection but by 98 he already screwed his body up. To me it was not even close between Coleman and Flex in the  98 Mr. Olympia.
flex used oil already in 92/93. only became obvious when his physique deteriorated, and he tried to make it up

kevin also used in his arms, as everyone knows

this is how flex made his tiny joints and full muscle bellies look unreal and unbelievable, through intellegent use of seo's in delts and arms

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2010, 08:18:08 AM »
I liked Shawn as well, but Shawn's legs tended to be too big for his upper body, specifically his arms. Shawn seemed to have to keep his legs in check. In 1993 Olympia, Flex's waist was smaller than Shawn's or Lebrada's.

Flex's waist was a bit smaller and I think he was great at the 93 Olympia, but I just like Shawn better. I think Shawn was more complete overall, but that is just my opinion.
I don't know were you get his legs were too big for his arms? ??? Shawn's arms were fantastic:


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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2010, 08:19:08 AM »
Flex had one of the best physique's of all time, but I've always liked Shawn Ray better.

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2010, 08:25:12 AM »
Flex had one of the best physique's of all time, but I've always liked Shawn Ray better.

Shawn shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as Flex Wheeler , he's NOT in Flex's league

Flex is one of the best bodybuilders of ALL time , Shawn isn't top 20

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2010, 08:28:46 AM »


Flex's only problem was the judging, which has always been controversial in this sport mind you. When he showed up in 92 in his best shape... it kinda coincided with Dorian Yates' big-as-a-house look. The judging was presented with two different packages and made a pivotal decision in the history of the sport: They went with the DY package. There is very little you can do as a bodybuilder if the judges are looking for SUVs and you're a Ferrari California. I mean, you can follow their advice and ruin your health and bank account.

IMO, at that time, the judges made the worst decision in the history of the sport.



Flex's only problem was Flex , he was his own biggest enemy. and 1992 wasn't his best shape I think you mean 1993 and while the ASC was his best shape he wasn't quite the same at the Olympia that year a victim of the spring contests


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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2010, 08:34:48 AM »
flex used oil already in 92/93. only became obvious when his physique deteriorated, and he tried to make it up

kevin also used in his arms, as everyone knows

this is how flex made his tiny joints and full muscle bellies look unreal and unbelievable, through intellegent use of seo's in delts and arms

you don't know if he was using in 92/93 that's nonsense later in his career sure back then no

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2010, 08:35:56 AM »
Shawn shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as Flex Wheeler , he's NOT in Flex's league

Flex is one of the best bodybuilders of ALL time , Shawn isn't top 20


Disagree 100% Shawn had less weaknesses than Flex.  Shawn's only letdown was his height.  Shawn and Flex are on the same level.
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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2010, 08:37:18 AM »
Shawn shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as Flex Wheeler , he's NOT in Flex's league

Flex is one of the best bodybuilders of ALL time , Shawn isn't top 20

I know Flex is the better bodybuilder. Shawn himself said that when Flex was 100% on, he was the best ever. I just like Shawn Ray better than Flex, as a personal preference.

Shawn isn't top 20? You're crazy.  ???

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Re: Flex Wheeler at 23
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2010, 08:41:18 AM »

Disagree 100% Shawn had less weaknesses than Flex.  Shawn's only letdown was his height.  Shawn and Flex are on the same level.

I don't think so , Flex is 5'10" he has wider clavicles and a better structure , Shawn is lucky if he's 5'7" he's narrow , short legs , long torso , no width , I think you can find less flaws on Flex at his best