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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #175 on: August 17, 2010, 08:04:14 AM »
The reaction? Nada. Later that month, in fact, conservative radio host Laura Ingraham interviewed the imam's wife on "O'Reilly Factor" and said: "I can't find many people who really have a problem with it. . . . I like what you're trying to do."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/17/AR2010081701473.html?hpid=topnews

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #176 on: August 17, 2010, 08:05:21 AM »
That was from a Dec -09, I believe.
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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #177 on: August 17, 2010, 08:08:43 AM »
yeah, as a result of islamic terrorists using the mosques to launch attacks on troops and weapons depots. 

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #178 on: August 17, 2010, 08:09:31 AM »
Who here supports this?
I support the constitution of the united states that says we cant make rules off of how we feel...

Thats what i support....i dont even know what the argument is. Tell me what grounds anyone has not to allow this...

But the reasons ive been hearing have been basically "the people who blew it up were muslims so.....in some sort of way all muslims share a part in it and we cant build a mosque..." Its fucking retarded and ass backwards...Maybe in another country but not this one God damn it. Jesus H Christ..What is the argument. Its pretty open and shut..Its America...FUCK...im getting a headache ova hea

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #179 on: August 17, 2010, 08:10:49 AM »


Obama won't be leaving the White House in November 2012, even if he loses the election.



What do you mean garebear?
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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #180 on: August 17, 2010, 08:13:12 AM »
I support the constitution of the united states that says we cant make rules off of how we feel...

Thats what i support....i dont even know what the argument is. Tell me what grounds anyone has not to allow this...

But the reasons ive been hearing have been basically "the people who blew it up were muslims so.....in some sort of way all muslims share a part in it and we cant build a mosque..." Its fucking retarded and ass backwards...Maybe in another country but not this one God damn it. Jesus H Christ..What is the argument. Its pretty open and shut..Its America...FUCK...im getting a headache ova hea

Good I hope you applaud me when i build a shrine to the KKK and James Earl Ray at MLK's grave site.  Or how about a shring to the Emporer of Japan on a floating barge over the Arizone in Pearl Harbor?  

If muslims insist on this, they should not be surprised when most people consider them no different than the westboro baptist scum bags.  

Again Mal you say you support the const yey are silent on Obama paying for the Imam to promote this thing and fuind building mosques overseas.  Basically, you are fos on this.  

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #181 on: August 17, 2010, 08:14:47 AM »
What do you mean garebear?

It means that this POFS is so used to wasting our money and living the life of a king on everyones' back that even when he gets booted in the elections, he will find a way to hold on to the life he is leading on our dime. 

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #182 on: August 17, 2010, 08:20:34 AM »
Another thing, how does Obama reconcile the fact that he is telling the Israelis where they can and cant build in Israel based on Muslim sensitivies, but does not want to allow anything of the sort here? 

More hypocrisy and nonsense from "The One". 

Hey Mal, 240, Blacken, Straw, and the rest of you dopes who voted for Obama - remember this gem you suckers ate up and fell for?   ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - you people are so gullible its not even funny.   




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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #183 on: August 17, 2010, 08:24:22 AM »
Good I hope you applaud me when i build a shrine to the KKK and James Earl Ray at MLK's grave site.  Or how about a shring to the Emporer of Japan on a floating barge over the Arizone in Pearl Harbor?  
If muslims insist on this, they should not be surprised when most people consider them no different than the westboro baptist scum bags.  

Again Mal you say you support the const yey are silent on Obama paying for the Imam to promote this thing and fuind building mosques overseas.  Basically, you are fos on this.  

Its America, And me and my mom were talking yesterday and i guess thats the argument that has been raised...the kkk mlk thing...And yes...it is your right as an AMERICAN citizen to build what you want where you want as long as its lawful...WHAT THE FUCK GROUNDS WOULD I HAVE TO STOP IT... Because i dont like you?  AS AN ESQ YOU KNOW BETTER...ITS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY....We dont govern off of feelings....GOD DAMN WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

And quit saying Muslims muslims muslims...Dude there are millions of Muslims tho dont suscribe to that crazy batshit stuff...but We as Americans can be so tunnel visioned. Grow the fuck up.

And the imam thing. First of all you know how you like to gay up shit with extreme hyperbole and misleading wording to get a point accross ike a woman who argues something...the most vile shit someone can do in my opinion. So i have to totally read a non bias report on this. But as long as nothing illegal has occured WHAT LAWS STOP IT..

Again..because "Im not feelin them fools" is not a valid explaination in opposition to this..well legally it aint...i swear this is like talking to 6 year olds...

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #184 on: August 17, 2010, 08:37:45 AM »
Its America, And me and my mom were talking yesterday and i guess thats the argument that has been raised...the kkk mlk thing...And yes...it is your right as an AMERICAN citizen to build what you want where you want as long as its lawful...WHAT THE FUCK GROUNDS WOULD I HAVE TO STOP IT... Because i dont like you?  AS AN ESQ YOU KNOW BETTER...ITS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY....We dont govern off of feelings....GOD DAMN WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

And quit saying Muslims muslims muslims...Dude there are millions of Muslims tho dont suscribe to that crazy batshit stuff...but We as Americans can be so tunnel visioned. Grow the fuck up.

And the imam thing. First of all you know how you like to gay up shit with extreme hyperbole and misleading wording to get a point accross ike a woman who argues something...the most vile shit someone can do in my opinion. So i have to totally read a non bias report on this. But as long as nothing illegal has occured WHAT LAWS STOP IT..

Again..because "Im not feelin them fools" is not a valid explaination in opposition to this..well legally it aint...i swear this is like talking to 6 year olds...



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I provided clear evidence that has been reported everywhere that the Govt is paying for the Imama to promote this and is paying for mosques overseas and you ignore that because I posted it rather than adress the reality of what is going on.  I go it. 

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #185 on: August 17, 2010, 08:41:09 AM »
It means that this POFS is so used to wasting our money and living the life of a king on everyones' back that even when he gets booted in the elections, he will find a way to hold on to the life he is leading on our dime. 
The new POTUS wouldn't be sworn in until around January 20th, 2013.
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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #186 on: August 17, 2010, 08:46:05 AM »

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I provided clear evidence that has been reported everywhere that the Govt is paying for the Imama to promote this and is paying for mosques overseas and you ignore that because I posted it rather than adress the reality of what is going on.  I go it. 


Amazing...another 3333 special. I just put Imam promote...and this is what i got
Feisal Abdul Rauf will visit Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates to promote religious tolerance and discuss Muslim life in America.

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #188 on: August 17, 2010, 08:52:39 AM »
Amazing...another 3333 special. I just put Imam promote...and this is what i got
Feisal Abdul Rauf will visit Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates to promote religious tolerance and discuss Muslim life in America.

And?  the corner stone of all of this is the Cordoba Project.  Why the hell should taxpayers be funding this guy?  If he can raise $100,000,000 for this disgrace, surely he can raise his own funds to travel no?  Why should i have to pay for a muslim imam to travel overseas to promote religion?  you don't see an issue with that?    

Again - if this were Bush sending Jerry Falwell to SA to promote Christian life in America - the left would have freaked out, and rightfully so.  

Bro - your blindness on this is beyond bizarre.  
  

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #189 on: August 17, 2010, 09:02:54 AM »
And?  the corner stone of all of this is the Cordoba Project.  Why the hell should taxpayers be funding this guy?  If he can raise $100,000,000 for this disgrace, surely he can raise his own funds to travel no?  Why should i have to pay for a muslim imam to travel overseas to promote religion?  you don't see an issue with that?    

Again - if this were Bush sending Jerry Falwell to SA to promote Christian life in America - the left would have freaked out, and rightfully so.  

Bro - your blindness on this is beyond bizarre.  
  

Promoting Christian Tolarance in Africa...I dont care.. do it.. IF IT DOSENT VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION...yeah that paper that our country was founded on...then its up for debate...But whats not up for debate is the issue right now...what the fuck did you learn in lawschool..that the constitution can be circumvented because of feelings and popularity...jesus h christ...WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT YOU

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #190 on: August 17, 2010, 09:07:45 AM »
Promoting Christian Tolarance in Africa...I dont care.. do it.. IF IT DOSENT VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION...yeah that paper that our country was founded on...then its up for debate...But whats not up for debate is the issue right now...what the fuck did you learn in lawschool..that the constitution can be circumvented because of feelings and popularity...jesus h christ...WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT YOU

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Of course you don't care because you ar eselective in what you want to believe about the Con solely when it fits your agenda. 

I already said they have a legal right to build this pending the disclosures on the financing etc.  however, that does not make it a complete scumbag thing to do. 

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #191 on: August 17, 2010, 09:32:27 AM »
The POTUS, Bloomberg, Cuomo, Nadler, Big Mal, Samson, Jag, 240, Blacken, etc. 

I'm sure Benny and a few others love the idea as well. 

Has OB said anything other than what the original article said?  Because to my knowledge he has not directly supported it other than to say everyone has the right to build a church.

Also the posters... have they said they support it or are they saying they support freedom of religion?

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #192 on: August 17, 2010, 09:42:51 AM »
Has OB said anything other than what the original article said?  Because to my knowledge he has not directly supported it other than to say everyone has the right to build a church.

Also the posters... have they said they support it or are they saying they support freedom of religion?

Who doesnt support freedom of religion?  This has nothing to do with that considering there are already hundreds of mosques in NYC, there are no domestic muslims in the area seeking or needing this to practice their faith, there is not an unserved muslim population, the money for this is not coming from domestic parishoners seeking a mosque to pray at, and lastly, no one is trying to stop people from practicsing Islam.   

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #193 on: August 17, 2010, 09:50:53 AM »
like i told you its a community center open to the public you can go swimming and play basketball or just hang out,sounds like fun ;D

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #194 on: August 17, 2010, 09:57:53 AM »
Who doesnt support freedom of religion?  This has nothing to do with that considering there are already hundreds of mosques in NYC, there are no domestic muslims in the area seeking or needing this to practice their faith, there is not an unserved muslim population, the money for this is not coming from domestic parishoners seeking a mosque to pray at, and lastly, no one is trying to stop people from practicsing Islam.   

Again, I am asking a simple question, who here has stated they support it?  Show me where OB says he supports the building of the mosque.  Don't divert, don't bring upi something else.  The accusations seem to be that OB supports this, and those other posters do, please show me where they say they want a this mosque built.

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #195 on: August 17, 2010, 09:59:17 AM »
like i told you its a community center open to the public you can go swimming and play basketball or just hang out,sounds like fun ;D

Will women have to wear Burghinis? 

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #196 on: August 17, 2010, 10:05:03 AM »
Again, I am asking a simple question, who here has stated they support it?  Show me where OB says he supports the building of the mosque.  Don't divert, don't bring upi something else.  The accusations seem to be that OB supports this, and those other posters do, please show me where they say they want a this mosque built.

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I don't think that anyone has been explicit in that other than Bloomberg TBH.  However, the failure to qualify the statement with a "its their right, but the site is a shitty place" speaks volumes. 

I agree with the Harry Reid statement, along with many others. 

Sometimes silence acts as a tacit approval.  This is why Obama came across as a total pos on this.  He pissed off everyone.  Not one person is debating their right to do this, the issue is that is it the right thing to do.  Cowards like obama initially came out strong for this in the friday speech, but punted the next day saying he did not comment on the wisdom of it.  Well waht does that mean? 


He could have said on Friday night "I agree they have a right to do it, but it is a shitty place intended solely to provoke people and I hope they move it".    That would have put this to bed, but no, he decided to piss everyone off and now we will have a nother divisive issue to scream about for months on end.         

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #197 on: August 17, 2010, 10:05:24 AM »
like i told you its a community center open to the public you can go swimming and play basketball or just hang out,sounds like fun ;D

If so, and if I am ever in NYC (which I doubt I will be) I will shit in the pool..... ;D

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #198 on: August 17, 2010, 10:08:45 AM »
i don't know where your from but in these parts we use a toilet :D

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Re: Obama throws support behind controversial Islamic center
« Reply #199 on: August 17, 2010, 10:11:23 AM »
i don't know where your from but in these parts we use a toilet :D

then it would be ok by that standard..... 8)