Progressives, Would You Support This?

[Arnold jr]

Joel Osteen and Franklin Graham decide to build a massive church in downtown NY. Here they will preach the gospel message, they will with this massive population of church members they are sure to have, spread across the city sharing their message.

This massive new church building will be paid for in part by the city of NY as well as by the federal government. The remainder of the cost will come from donations received from church members and from other churches across the country.

A large portion of the money collected will come from church "XYZ" in Plano, TX, a group known for its radical members, with several instances of blowing up abortion clinics and killing the Dr's and nurses within. They also have a lengthy record of assaulting and/or killing homosexuals.

Many of the members of this new super church in NY are also former members of this church in Plano TX, but we are not made aware which ones because Osteen and Graham won't show us the records.

We have probable cause to believe further that money being used to build this church is also coming in from overseas. A church in Slovakia with strong desires to return to a communist state has members that sit on the board of the Plano, TX church. This Slovakian church is the parent church of the one in Plano, TX. Their goal, the spreading of communism and communist law, that is the primary goal first and foremost.

Let's recap:

*Church being built in NY
*Funded by radicals
*Funded by those with a political agenda
*Funded by those who commit murder in the name of God
*Funded by the state
*Members of the new NY church are former members of the Plano, TX church
*The end goal of this church is to spread communism across the U.S., communism is their gospel message and they wish to spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus will be their backbone by which they base their actions off of.


How many of you progressives would support this NY church?

[Option D]

hells yeah...if everything was on the up and up...yes it is his constitutional right to be protected from anyone whilst building said church...if you are against it..either puchase the land legally or dont go to that church...

[OzmO]

Joel Osteen and Franklin Graham decide to build a massive church in downtown NY. Here they will preach the gospel message, they will with this massive population of church members they are sure to have, spread across the city sharing their message.

This massive new church building will be paid for in part by the city of NY as well as by the federal government. The remainder of the cost will come from donations received from church members and from other churches across the country.

A large portion of the money collected will come from church "XYZ" in Plano, TX, a group known for its radical members, with several instances of blowing up abortion clinics and killing the Dr's and nurses within. They also have a lengthy record of assaulting and/or killing homosexuals.

Many of the members of this new super church in NY are also former members of this church in Plano TX, but we are not made aware which ones because Osteen and Graham won't show us the records.

We have probable cause to believe further that money being used to build this church is also coming in from overseas. A church in Slovakia with strong desires to return to a communist state has members that sit on the board of the Plano, TX church. This Slovakian church is the parent church of the one in Plano, TX. Their goal, the spreading of communism and communist law, that is the primary goal first and foremost.

Let's recap:

*Church being built in NY
*Funded by radicals
*Funded by those with a political agenda
*Funded by those who commit murder in the name of God
*Funded by the state
*Members of the new NY church are former members of the Plano, TX church
*The end goal of this church is to spread communism across the U.S., communism is their gospel message and they wish to spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus will be their backbone by which they base their actions off of.


How many of you progressives would support this NY church?

I don't fancy myself as a progressive, but i would not support any church built in part or in whole with federal, city or state funds.  I don't care if its a church or members who have done nothing but good in their entire history.

[Soul Crusher]

hells yeah...if everything was on the up and up...yes it is his constitutional right to be protected from anyone whilst building said church...if you are against it..either puchase the land legally or dont go to that church...

This massive new church building will be paid for in part by the city of NY as well as by the federal government. The remainder of the cost will come from donations received from church members and from other churches across the country.


Ha ha ha - and you support that ? ? ? ? 

[Arnold jr]

I don't fancy myself as a progressive, but i would not support any church built in part or in whole with federal, city or state funds.  I don't care if its a church or members who have done nothing but good in their entire history.

So you would then not support the mosque being built in NY correct?

[Arnold jr]

hells yeah...if everything was on the up and up...yes it is his constitutional right to be protected from anyone whilst building said church...if you are against it..either puchase the land legally or dont go to that church...

So after reading about this new church you find it to be on the up and up?

[Fury]

Christianity and Judaism are enemies of liberals and progressives. Islam is good to go.

[OzmO]

So you would then not support the mosque being built in NY correct?

I don't support it for other reasons, but the idea that the federal government is providing funds for any church is flat out wrong.  IMO

[Option D]

This massive new church building will be paid for in part by the city of NY as well as by the federal government. The remainder of the cost will come from donations received from church members and from other churches across the country.


Ha ha ha - and you support that ? ? ? ? 

I could have sworn i said if its out of private money and everything is legal to the letter of the law..then its cool...if not...then its not cool

[BM OUT]

Im not against the Mosque being built.Im also a big supporter of the idea of a homosexual bar right outside the mosque that will mainly cater to homosexual muslim men.I think this will show that the muslims are an open and accepting group if they show no ill will towards a gay bar of muslims right outside their mosque.This will show how tolerant this religion of peace really is.

[Soul Crusher]

Im not against the Mosque being built.Im also a big supporter of the idea of a homosexual bar right outside the mosque that will mainly cater to homosexual muslim men.I think this will show that the muslims are an open and accepting group if they show no ill will towards a gay bar of muslims right outside their mosque.This will show how tolerant this religion of peace really is.

I wonder if the mosque will have condom dispensers for the gay muslims to screw in the pool. 

[Fury]

Let's say some radical Christian blows up that mosque. Would progressives support building a church at that spot a few years later?

[Option D]

Let's say some radical Christian blows up that mosque. Would progressives support building a church at that spot a few years later?

yes

[BM OUT]

I think most liberals who say they would support a church being built are liars.Its liberals who protest and bring lawsuits against Christians putting a creche in front of a church at Christmas and try to shut down stores from saying "Merry Christmas" during the hollidays.These people are only for freedom when its THEIR causes.They hate freedom when it doesnt fall into line with their way of thinking.

[Skeletor]

This massive new church building will be paid for in part by the city of NY as well as by the federal government. The remainder of the cost will come from donations received from church members and from other churches across the country.

The government should not fund any religious project, whether that's a christian church, a muslim mosque, azoroastrian temple or anything religious.

[Arnold jr]

The government should not fund any religious project, whether that's a christian church, a muslim mosque, azoroastrian temple or anything religious.

Then why is it OK in the case of the NY mosque? I'm not saying you're saying it's OK but why is it progressives support it.

I also noticed no one has addressed the point that this fictional church would be getting support from radical churches overseas as well as from radicals at home...I'd like to see some progressives defend that but they can't or rather they won't because there is no defense but for some reason it's OK if it's a mosque.

[Soul Crusher]

Then why is it OK in the case of the NY mosque? I'm not saying you're saying it's OK but why is it progressives support it.

I also noticed no one has addressed the point that this fictional church would be getting support from radical churches overseas as well as from radicals at home...I'd like to see some progressives defend that but they can't or rather they won't because there is no defense but for some reason it's OK if it's a mosque.

The bottom line is that liberals and so called 'progressives' , whatever the hell that means other than communist, are FOFS. 

I posted two threads proving the govt is paying for this Imam to go overseas and promote the mosuqe as well as pay for the rehabing mosques overseas and not one has said a word about it. 


Leftists love the idea of a marriage of Mosque/State. 

[Arnold jr]

The bottom line is that liberals and so called 'progressives' , whatever the hell that means other than communist, are FOFS. 

I posted two threads proving the govt is paying for this Imam to go overseas and promote the mosuqe as well as pay for the rehabing mosques overseas and not one has said a word about it. 


Leftists love the idea of a marriage of Mosque/State. 

"Progressive" is simply a modern label given to people with socialist ideology. It sounds better than communist or socialist and that's why they've grabbed hold to that label because the other is scary, progressive sounds warm and fuzzy.

I wish so badly people could get out of the mindset of left and right, conservative and liberal because as we have it today the important argument is progressive and non-progressive. 

[Option D]

Then why is it OK in the case of the NY mosque? I'm not saying you're saying it's OK but why is it progressives support it.

I also noticed no one has addressed the point that this fictional church would be getting support from radical churches overseas as well as from radicals at home...I'd like to see some progressives defend that but they can't or rather they won't because there is no defense but for some reason it's OK if it's a mosque.

where is it being funded by the government?

[Soul Crusher]

where is it being funded by the government?

1.  The U.S. taxpayer is paying for this imam to go overseas to promote this project, which undoubedtly will involve fundraising. 

2.  the site will be taken off the tax rolls as a charitiy if this goes forward. 

[Option D]

1.  The U.S. taxpayer is paying for this imam to go overseas to promote this project, which undoubedtly will involve fundraising. 

2.  the site will be taken off the tax rolls as a charitiy if this goes forward. 

PROMOTE THIS PROJECT OR PROMOTE MUSLIM BROTHER HOOD

[Soul Crusher]

PROMOTE THIS PROJECT OR PROMOTE MUSLIM BROTHER HOOD

Both.    Or do you believe official storyline like a good little lemming that fund raising wont occur on this?  Why else is this Imam going there?  Its because no one here wants to to fund this disgrace and he hopes he can get funding from the oil sheiks and barrons to piss us off. 

Wake up dude.  I thought you were smarter than this.  Geez.  Maybe you sniffed too much stuff from the cadavers or something cause your blindness on this is kind of creepy.