My first cycle questions.

[dd0126]

I'm about to start a cycle of D-bol and Sustanon 250, as soon as my Tamoxifen comes in that is.  I've got 200x 5mg tabs of D-bol and 30x amps of Sustanon.  Is that an okay amount of D-bol or should I get more, I'm only planning on a 6-8 week cycle and I think I might not use all of the Sust. that I have. I'd like some input, also I would like to factor in some Clenbuterol, but I'm unsure of the dosage I should use with it and the Tamoxifen to be certain. What do you say?

[jerseymuscles113]

forget about the clen...run the Sust at 500mgs per week for 10 weeks and dbol for the first 4weeks at 6 a day, 30mgs...

[dd0126]

Should I build up to 6 Dbol a day or just start and finish with 6 a day, in other words, no tapering?  I though the Clen would give you energy and help burn fat, as I want size increase but would like to get a little cut as well.  With what you suggest, how should I take the Tamoxifen?

Thanks

[jerseymuscles113]

there is no need to ramp up pick a dose and stay at that dose i would run It between 25-35mgs ed...with Sust you should run eod injections to benefit from the short esters lots of ppl run It 2x a week thou...you'd be better off runnin eod injections..for estrogen control while on cycle take 20mgs of nolva e3d...For Your post you'll need nolva and clomid

[efanhowz]

"just remember to shoot your sust directly into the testicles because it has tren in it"

ok dont do that

run the sust 500 mg/wk for 15 weeks
dbol 30 mg/day for 1-5 weeks
bulk wk 1-8
cut wk 9-15 with morning cardio
i hate clen but if you must use during the cut, start at 20mcg/day until it loses its effects then up the dose. drop after 2 weeks of use for a few days, than repeat
hit the nolva if you get gyno.
get some HCG for post cycle (especially if you go 15 weeks)
start pct 10-14 days after your last inject

[jerseymuscles113]

15weeks for a first cycle? cut weeks and bulk weeks? nolva for Gyno?...no...you need to control estrogen while on hence the 20mgs e3d..and for Gyno you would want something besides nolva to dry It out...when ramping up with clen you don't just wait until It stops and take more...you gradually increase It a set mcg's per a set time....and cutting and bulking weeks? never heard of such a thing but who said that's what he wanted for his expectations

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

First Cycle, gotta bulk..

Better yet, if you're at a high BF% now, Cut down to 10-12% before you start

[WillGrant]

First Cycle, gotta bulk..

Better yet, if you're at a high BF% now, Cut down to 10-12% before you start

This.

[BigBleu]

I'd say cut even lower than 10-12% if you can. On your first test cycle (probably your first AAS cycle as well), you want to notice the changes as time progresses. Too much fat and it's hard to notice whether you are making any progress, even on a first cycle when your receptors are fresh.

[Havenbull]

First Cycle, gotta bulk..

Better yet, if you're at a high BF% now, Cut down to 10-12% before you start

No way... I'd say 20% max...  I was at that years ago on my first cycle and my tris and traps popped out.  People were like "DAMN"... I wasnt all that vascular, but I had the classic rugged physique going on in 12 weeks.

I wanted to look good in a shirt, not on the beach...