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Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« on: August 19, 2010, 10:50:53 AM »
Seven-time Cy Young award winner Roger Clemens will be indicted for perjury for lying at a U.S. House of Representatives hearing about his use of steroids, The New York Times reported Thursday.

An announcement is expected to come later Thursday, according to the report.

Clemens appeared at a hearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in Feb. 2008, repeatedly denying that he had ever used steroids.

His former trainer, Brian McNamee, also appeared at the hearing to repeat allegations that he had personally injected Clemens with steroids.

Clemens accused McNamee of lying in order to avoid federal drug charges for steroid distribution. Clemens sued McNamee for defamation, but the lawsuit was dismissed in Sept. 2009.

Clemens, 48, last pitched in 2007 for the Yankees, capping a 24-year career in which he won 354 games. His 4,672 strikeouts rank third on the all-time list.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Feds-to-indict-Roger-Clemens-on-perjury-charges-081910?gt1=39002
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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2010, 10:53:35 AM »
So glad that our economy is back to 100% and the wars are all over so we can now focus on the really important stuff like steroids in baseball.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 10:54:55 AM »
The guy's a friggin LEGEND, I can't believe they're coming after him for this bullshit, most of the guys going after him were probably childhood fans of his.

f*cking pieces of shit.

Funny how no one went after Carl Lewis in the 1988 Olympics when he failed the drug test for epo and steroids.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 10:55:45 AM »
if any cop, any detective, any lawyer, ANYONE with the ability to gaffle you, ever asks you anything---

Just say one word, "Lawyer!"


People don't go to jail for the crime/deed, they go to jail for the cover-up.  Stop trying to protect image, stop believing you're smarter than the po-po.

If Bonds, martha stewart, clemens and others would just zip their lip, they'd be fine.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 10:57:14 AM »
The guy's a friggin LEGEND, I can't believe they're coming after him for this bullshit, most of the guys going after him were probably childhood fans of his.

f*cking pieces of shit.

Funny how no one went after Carl Lewis in the 1988 Olympics when he failed the drug test for epo and steroids.


It's because he's white >:(
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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 11:01:38 AM »
money well spent

why arent they having hearings  in hollywood, a lot of actors use much more serious drugs
 

or in the music industry, heroin abuse is rampant

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 11:03:09 AM »
While this great nation was at war, Joe Biden declared war on steroids in baseball.
His friends' lawfirms were made rich conducting Congressional investigations into the use of PEDs in "our national passtime".

1)  Why is this a Congressional issue, you may ask?  Because MLB is exempt for Antitrust Law, which is a deal MLB struck back at the turn of the 20th Century.  Antiturst laws protect markets from establishing a monopoly.  Even if this is a Congressional issue (which it shouldn't be), Biden picked an odd time to conduct the investigation.

2)  If you were a player subpoenad to appear at a Congressional hearing, why would you even attend?  You are not required to incriminate yourself.  Exercise your 5th Amendment Rights and move on.  Why, at the risk of being impeached later on, would you lie in your testimony?  


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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 11:05:44 AM »
Beautiful... and the witch hunt continues. We don't have any worse problems like murder, unsolved murder, the homeless, the poor and the econimy. Let indict Roger  ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 11:06:22 AM »
2)  If you were a player subpoenad to appear at a Congressional hearing, why would you even attend?  You are not required to incriminate yourself.  Exercise your 5th Amendment Rights and move on.  Why, at the risk of being impeached later on, would you lie in your testimony?  


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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 11:20:22 AM »
Seriously people what part of "lying to a grand jury" don't you get? It's not about that he took the shit it's about how he LIED. If he would have come out and said "yes, I took steroids" like Pettite did, this wouldn't be going on. Lets see, Pettite told the truth, it's in HIS past and he's still a pitcher for the Yankee's, Clemens LIED and now he's going down for it. FUCK!

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 11:26:20 AM »
Coach, I have two issues:

1)  Why is Congress involved with steroids in baseball?  Especially so close in time to the most heinous terrorist act to occur on U.S. soil?

2)  Why did the lawyers of the players who used give such bad advice.  McGwire sounded dumb, but will not see an indictment.  Petitte admitted to his use, as did A-Rod (of course A-Rod said he doesn't think they helped at all--check his stats, they don't lie), but Clemens flat out lied.

But why was Clemens there in the first place?  You are not required to testify.  They can't make you talk.  And if you do, make sure you are granted immunity before you incriminate yourself (and others). 

Egos screwed this whole thing up.  Clemens' ego would not allow him to keep his mouth shut.

 

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2010, 11:28:51 AM »
Seriously people what part of "lying to a grand jury" don't you get? It's not about that he took the shit it's about how he LIED. If he would have come out and said "yes, I took steroids" like Pettite did, this wouldn't be going on. Lets see, Pettite told the truth, it's in HIS past and he's still a pitcher for the Yankee's, Clemens LIED and now he's going down for it. FUCK!
The point is the government should have much bigger fish to fry then to worry and waste money about something stupid like this. Its like if a cop were to pull you over for speeding doing 10KM over the limit. Its bullshit.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2010, 11:30:34 AM »
It's ridiculous they are wasting time on this nonsense. ::)

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2010, 11:31:21 AM »
Not only time, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 11:32:10 AM »
Seriously people what part of "lying to a grand jury" don't you get? It's not about that he took the shit it's about how he LIED. If he would have come out and said "yes, I took steroids" like Pettite did, this wouldn't be going on. Lets see, Pettite told the truth, it's in HIS past and he's still a pitcher for the Yankee's, Clemens LIED and now he's going down for it. FUCK!


I’m on a federal grand jury right now; the term of service is nearly two years.  We have the power to summon anyone, anywhere in the country to come before us.  We are indicting people left and right.  It’s fun!  :D

Do not lie to the grand jury.  >:(

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2010, 11:35:15 AM »
Personally they should put MLB commissioner/owner Bud Selig on trial for putting this product on the field and deceiving hard working americans claiming the players were clean and going for the home run record cleanly.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2010, 11:35:57 AM »
Coach, I have two issues:

1)  Why is Congress involved with steroids in baseball?  Especially so close in time to the most heinous terrorist act to occur on U.S. soil?

Can't really answer that, but I agree they shouldn't be involved BUT regardless of whether they should be involved or not, you don't lie and dig yourself deeper.

2)  Why did the lawyers of the players who used give such bad advice.  McGwire sounded dumb, but will not see an indictment.  Petitte admitted to his use, as did A-Rod (of course A-Rod said he doesn't think they helped at all--check his stats, they don't lie), but Clemens flat out lied.

Mark wasn't indicted because he didn't deny or admit to use it was just assumed he took it during that time.

But why was Clemens there in the first place?  You are not required to testify.  They can't make you talk.  And if you do, make sure you are granted immunity before you incriminate yourself (and others). 

Egos screwed this whole thing up.  Clemens' ego would not allow him to keep his mouth shut.

 

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2010, 11:37:06 AM »
Coach, I know that about McGwire.  Like I said, he sounded dumb speaking about "moving forward", but he won't see an indictment.


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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2010, 11:37:24 AM »
The point is the government should have much bigger fish to fry then to worry and waste money about something stupid like this. Its like if a cop were to pull you over for speeding doing 10KM over the limit. Its bullshit.

I'm not disagreeing but the fact remains when he was called he lied his ass off.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2010, 11:39:24 AM »

I’m on a federal grand jury right now; the term of service is nearly two years.  We have the power to summon anyone, anywhere in the country to come before us.  We are indicting people left and right.  It’s fun!  :D

Do not lie to the grand jury.  >:(


And that's the ENTIRE point, DO NOT LIE.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2010, 11:40:38 AM »
Clemens no doubt lied.
And those of us that know anything about "sport" and "training" knew he was lying to a bunch of grown up children (Congressional Oversight Committee) clinging to the heros of their past, and to "America's pastime".

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2010, 11:41:12 AM »
And that's the ENTIRE point, DO NOT LIE.
Fuck that. Lies make the world go round. Anyone who doesn't believe that is very naive.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2010, 11:46:06 AM »
Fuck that. Lies make the world go round. Anyone who doesn't believe that is very naive.

Lying to Federal Grand Jury isn't like lying to your wife or girlfriend. You purger yourself in court and they find out consider your ass imprisoned with a new wife named Bubba.

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2010, 11:48:14 AM »
Lying to Federal Grand Jury isn't like lying to your wife or girlfriend. You purger yourself in court and they find out consider your ass imprisoned with a new wife named Bubba.
The next time a terr attack hits your soil I will try to remember that because its far more important  ::)

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Re: Feds to indict Roger Clemens for perjury
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2010, 11:56:48 AM »
You can take that up with our inept government.