Ironage bodybuilder Chet Yorton - Was/is he natural?

[FREAKgeek]

100% natural and beat Arnold Schwarzenegger in a contest. Imagine the potential he had if he was on.

[Bad News Brown]

About as natural as Michael Jackson's face.

[BayGBM]

No way Chet Yorton is or was natural.  ALL the top guys in the 60's who ever graced a magazine cover took something at one time or another.  You don't compete against guys like Draper, Pearl, Sergio, Zane without taking steroids.  Chuck Sipes was a huge juicer as well.  They all lied.  And yes many were pathological liars.  Why is that so hard for people to believe?  These guys entire lives revolved around bodybuilding.  The honest guys will tell you that they didn't really know what they were taking and thought it was vitamins or what not.  John Grimek used dbol for a short period of time.  So for Chet to say he never used anything is bullshit.

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[funk51]

chet started a natural bodybuilding organization and when he found out that one of his proteges ken cole was a juicer it was said that he shed a tear.

[tallgerman]

holy shit thatr old fuker in shape unless its photoedit

[Victor VonDoom]

holy shit thatr old fuker in shape unless its photoedit

Is that a pussy pulling physique?  Can one still pull mad pussy at 67?  Bah!

[Matt C]

uggh, those iron age retards are the worst.....its some kind of bizarre badge of honor, who could out under-juice who

    

[Matt C]

Is this true about ironagers?:

uggh, those iron age retards are the worst.....its some kind of bizarre badge of honor, who could out under-juice who

     

First off, from a point of view of addictive personalities, I reject the notion that ironagers juiced less because they had superior morals.  In my view, the reality is that they abused fewer drugs solely because fewer drugs existed at the time to abuse.

It reminds me of when people say Native Americans were goodly/spiritual and "in touch with nature".  In reality, as soon as they arrived in the Americas in Alaska by way of the Siberian land bridge, all sorts of mass extinction events took place.  For example, Europeans brought horses to North America that were hunted to extinction by Native Americans.

This example is relevant because I think it is very dishonest to claim the moral high ground at a time where there was no such intention to be moral.  Crap movies like "Avatar" offend me as a White man and as a supporter of modern bodybuilding, I also disagree with notions of moral superiority of yesteryear compared to today.

In my opinion, ironagers had the same mentality as bodybuilders today; that being that they would do whatever it took to be the biggest and the best in bodybuilding.

Another thing is is that I think that ironagers do not take issues with physiques built on anabolics [even if those anabolics were abused], but seem to have an issue with the aesthetic problems that arise when a person puts on too much size - usually size attained from using insulin, GH, IGF-1, etc.

It's annoying the same sort of way as it would be annoying for alcoholics to judge people for smoking marijuana or something along those lines.

Discuss.

[Van_Bilderass]

This guy's whole life is a lie.

Worth repeating, even after all these years...

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/bul2c11.htm

Great article. I assume by Arthur Jones? Ironically Jones lied about Casey Viator's use of drugs (during the CO experiement).

Bodybuilding = all bullshit

[SilverSpoon]

They didn't call Zane "The Chemist" because he taught math and chemistry.

[Matt C]

uggh, those iron age retards are the worst.....its some kind of bizarre badge of honor, who could out under-juice who

    

[Lord of the Roidz]

Although I, as well, find it very hard to believe Yorton was steroid -free, I think it is within the realms of human physiology to attain his development without drugs. You'd have to have one in 10 million type genetics and produce higher than normal amounts of testosterone.....but it could be possible. However, one of the most "respected" old timers is Bill Pearl. He always claimed he was natural at the 71 Mr. Universe where he also said he weighed 240 pounds and I think he's barely 6 feet. He also said for many years he was drug free...and then later admitted he used the drug Nilevar in the early 60's...but then never used again. Yet, he somehow is bigger and more muscular years later, drug free. And again Pearl is supposed to be one of the most "honorable" men in the sport. So I doubt Yorton's story as well, although I do think it is possible.

[~UN_$ung~]

   

lol, im gald you liked that one



it true, that everyone, not only bodybuilders have this euphoric recall when it comes to the past...........we worked harder, we used less, it was more about the love fo the game


its all  bullshit............its a fact old guys get grouchy and like to shit on up and comers...........it surely hypocritical, from a semantic point of view.........to say that anabolics are ok, but insulin/HGH is bad..............but from an aesthetic point of view, it is kinda true that physiques today have moved from the realm of beauty like zane and arnold to disproportioned monsters


and as far as the whole 'noble savage' thing with the native americans......that they were these peaceful wanders dancing arcoss the western plain in harmony with nature

its fucking bullshit...........they only reason they were "eco neutral" was because they were not smart enough to invent ANYTHING.............and they were savagely violent, killing each other constantly, tribal war, kill them men,kill the babies, absorb the women into the tribe


as a matter of fact, there is a lot of evidence that there were actually caucasionoid peoples here long before native americans arrived over the land bridge..........but the former were victims of a large scale extinction committed by the "noble" native americans............loo k up "kennewick man",,,,,,,,and then figure out why most native americans from the east possess european DNA



but the native american lobby squashed all talk of this, kennewick man was buried, it isnt allowed to be even studied..........because they need their little scam to justify their casinos and welfare programs

[Matt C]

lol, im gald you liked that one



it true, that everyone, not only bodybuilders have this euphoric recall when it comes to the past...........we worked harder, we used less, it was more about the love fo the game


its all  bullshit............its a fact old guys get grouchy and like to shit on up and comers...........it surely hypocritical, from a semantic point of view.........to say that anabolics are ok, but insulin/HGH is bad..............but from an aesthetic point of view, it is kinda true that physiques today have moved from the realm of beauty like zane and arnold to disproportioned monsters


and as far as the whole 'noble savage' thing with the native americans......that they were these peaceful wanders dancing arcoss the western plain in harmony with nature

its fucking bullshit...........they only reason they were "eco neutral" was because they were not smart enough to invent ANYTHING.............and they were savagely violent, killing each other constantly, tribal war, kill them men,kill the babies, absorb the women into the tribe


as a matter of fact, there is a lot of evidence that there were actually caucasionoid peoples here long before native americans arrived over the land bridge..........but the former were victims of a large scale extinction committed by the "noble" native americans............loo k up "kennewick man",,,,,,,,and then figure out why most native americans from the east possess european DNA



but the native american lobby squashed all talk of this, kennewick man was buried, it isnt allowed to be even studied..........because they need their little scam to justify their casinos and welfare programs

Great post!!!

You are absolutely correct that the true Native Americans were White Europeans:

And notice that the admixture of the current so-called "Native Americans" is matrilineal, proving the rape of the White women by the Siberians who came over.  The concept of the "noble" Native American is just another myth to slander White people.

Ironage has a sub-forum called "The Good Old Days" which leads me to believe that it is common for ironagers to look back to the past with rose-coloured glasses.

http://www.ironage.us/yabbse/index.php/board,5.0.html

It's kind of like how when I recall my experiences in the army, I remember them all being good when in reality I hated it literally 95% of the time which is why I ultimately quit the service.

Ironage is a great site for information on classic bodybuilders, probably the best on the net actually.

[BIG ACH]

Chet taking a blood test to prove he was natural!



Chet and Arnold!

[~UN_$ung~]

Chet taking a blood test to prove he was natural!



Chet and Arnold!

now lets use our powers of logic and deductive reasoning...

1) we know arnold used steroids from a very young age

2)  we know that arnold had some of the best muscle building genetics ever

3)  in the photo we see chet on stage looking comparable to arnold



so what does that tell us  that yorton is SUCH  genetic anomaly that that he could stand on stage (natural)  next to arnold, who himself was very gifted genetically.........and go pose for pose with him


chet yorton has genetics THAT much better then arnold schwarzeneggar that he didnt even have to use steroids to look the way arnold did

[Jussup]

Bodybuilding = all bullshit

Wiser words have never been spoken on any bodybuilding board.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Chet taking a blood test to prove he was natural!



Chet and Arnold!

Please in that top picture where he's getting tested he obviously has shrunk and looks half the size he is in the bottom picture.  Also these guys used the shit out of dbol.  Most orals are in and out of your system.  So even if they tested for testosterone he could have still used orals and passed.  drug tests especially back then didn't mean shit. 

[Vince B]

Matt doesn't know what happened in the old days. We were all worried about side effects so that tempered what most took. Dianabol and deca-durabolin were around but I never heard of anyone using testosterone. That would have been reckless because of virilization side effects that nobody wanted. Whether some crazy guys took heaps of gear I have no idea.

After decades of using steroids the muscleheads figured out that they weren't as dangerous as the doctors had warned. The fact that few ended up dead or ill led many to experiment in later years so that today the majority of top bodybuilders use stacks and goodness knows what.

I met Chet in LA in 1968. He was a big dude but very forthright. I have no idea if he used gear or not. Those of us smaller than these huge guys always wondered how they got so big.

There is no way anyone can establish that Chet used steroids to compete in the 60s. Arguing about this is sad because it proves nothing. Chet has just as much difficulty trying to prove he didn't use any steroids.

I used 2 Dianabol a day for a couple of months but who believes that today? This was after 11 years of natural training. Yet that is exactly what I took and my ex can verify it because she got me the tablets from the hospital. I agree that most of the guys competing in those days either denied using or lied about it. It was considered cheating in those days and embarrassing to admit.

[~UN_$ung~]

Matt doesn't know what happened in the old days. We were all worried about side effects so that tempered what most took. Dianabol and deca-durabolin were around but I never heard of anyone using testosterone. That would have been reckless because of virilization side effects that nobody wanted. Whether some crazy guys took heaps of gear I have no idea.

After decades of using steroids the muscleheads figured out that they weren't as dangerous as the doctors had warned. The fact that few ended up dead or ill led many to experiment in later years so that today the majority of top bodybuilders use stacks and goodness knows what.

I met Chet in LA in 1968. He was a big dude but very forthright. I have no idea if he used gear or not. Those of us smaller than these huge guys always wondered how they got so big.

There is no way anyone can establish that Chet used steroids to compete in the 60s. Arguing about this is sad because it proves nothing. Chet has just as much difficulty trying to prove he didn't use any steroids.

I used 2 Dianabol a day for a couple of months but who believes that today? This was after 11 years of natural training. Yet that is exactly what I took and my ex can verify it because she got me the tablets from the hospital. I agree that most of the guys competing in those days either denied using or lied about it. It was considered cheating in those days and embarrassing to admit.

right, no one ever USED the FIRST and most ubiquitous steroid ever invented................ do you ever actually think before you post


your like a walking parody...........you should be humiliated that you, are you

  

fucking moron, he is on stage with arnold, looking comparably as muscular................ he must have just the most insane genetics EVER..........that he could do naturally, what arnold did with years of steroid use

[Matt C]

now lets use our powers of logic and deductive reasoning...

1) we know arnold used steroids from a very young age

2)  we know that arnold had some of the best muscle building genetics ever

3)  in the photo we see chet on stage looking comparable to arnold



so what does that tell us  that yorton is SUCH  genetic anomaly that that he could stand on stage (natural)  next to arnold, who himself was very gifted genetically.........and go pose for pose with him


chet yorton has genetics THAT much better then arnold schwarzeneggar that he didnt even have to use steroids to look the way arnold did

That puts it in perspective.

Maybe Chet considers anabolics only to be "drug-free" and is against GH/IGF-1/insulin and all the related side effects and lack of aesthetics that comes with it?  If he truly is anabolics free as well, that is nothing short of amazing, especially given that he is still roughly the same size at over 70 years of age!

[Vince B]

Come on, Matt, thousands of guys have more amazing physiques than you developed. Don't profess to know what they did to get big. I so hate bullshit authorities. You are definitely NOT an expert in hypertrophy.

[BB]

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Just bringing back up this thread to post this video series by Ric Drasin(contemporary and training partner of Arnold and other bodybuilding champs) on 60's-90's drug use that he actually saw during those years, relates stacks, lore, etc... Darn good series on this, and Drasin is to commended for his honesty.

As for Yorton? He looks better at his 60-70's than the natural champs of the pre-steroid era looked in their 20's-30's, that doesn't happen naturally:).

[funk51]

chet was in a very bad car accident and had metal rods in his legs, it's not to hard to put ywo and two together and figure doctors gave chet steroids to build him back up, and then some.

[FREAKgeek]

I hate frank, but he looks pretty damn awesome here