Ironage bodybuilder Chet Yorton - Was/is he natural?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Nice interview with Drasin although it's totally for the layman who knows nothing. 

It's funny to see guys on the boards post how they are using upwards of 2000mgs fo sterodis a week and they still look half as good and half as big as the guys in the 50s and 60s.  LMAO!  The body is only going to soak up a certain amount.  The size of most of the pros is due in large part to insulin and gh.  Not massive doses of test and eq. 

[Chick]

Nice interview with Drasin although it's totally for the layman who knows nothing. 

It's funny to see guys on the boards post how they are using upwards of 2000mgs fo sterodis a week and they still look half as good and half as big as the guys in the 50s and 60s.  LMAO!  The body is only going to soak up a certain amount.  The size of most of the pros is due in large part to insulin and gh.  Not massive doses of test and eq. 

Or perhaps...the guys in the 50's and 60's took a lot more than you believe.

Dont be so naive

[Parker]

I think it has more to do with test levels found is nature. Buffalo and Oxen have simliiar test levels, yet there is no animal in nature that has the hormone levels of fridge.

An Ox is a male bovine (cattle) without testicles, so therefore it cannot produce test...so a male Buffalo would have higher test levels.

[Heywood]

Anyone who comes up with a timeline on the development and use of steroids other than that described by John Fair and Bill Starr (involving Russian coaches, John Ziegler, York testing, etc) in the late 1950's and early sixties, they need to give the exact who, what, when, where, and why.

If you're going to dispute the historians, then you come up with a plausible "alternative reality."

[~UN_$ung~]

Or perhaps...the guys in the 50's and 60's took a lot more than you believe.

Dont be so naive

dont crush their dreams chick..................t hey want SO BADLY to believe arnold, sergio, and zane-era guys all took a half tab of primobolon a day...........and that was only during the week of a contest

i makes them fell better about themselves


they dont realize that zane's nickname was "the chemist"..........i suppose they think he got that nickname by the way he mixed his protein powders

[Chick]

dont crush their dreams chick..................t hey want SO BADLY to believe arnold, sergio, and zane-era guys all took a half tab of primobolon a day...........and that was only during the week of a contest

i makes them fell better about themselves


they dont realize that zane's nickname was "the chemist"..........i suppose they think he got that nickname by the way he mixed his protein powders

LOL...one of the funniest notions I've heard over the years.  I like to call it "The Basile Effect".  It's like the Bizzaro world fish story...throughout time, the amounts and dosages get smaller and smaller, while the old guard says things like "If we used  what they used today..." when the reality is, they had BETTER shit...real, no counterfit, no one cared, wasnt illegal, etc..

Yet, some "moral compass" only allowed them to take a few tabs blah blah...

[Lord of the Roidz]

LOL...one of the funniest notions I've heard over the years.  I like to call it "The Basile Effect".  It's like the Bizzaro world fish story...throughout time, the amounts and dosages get smaller and smaller, while the old guard says things like "If we used  what they used today..." when the reality is, they had BETTER shit...real, no counterfit, no one cared, wasnt illegal, etc..

Yet, some "moral compass" only allowed them to take a few tabs blah blah...

So.....back to the thread...would you say Chet Yorton is a pathological liar? Or did he just have amazing genetics and  amazing discipline? Please give your honest opinion.

[Chick]

So.....back to the thread...would you say Chet Yorton is a pathological liar? Or did he just have amazing genetics and  amazing discipline? Please give your honest opinion.

Hard to say...no way to dispute his claims, arguments on both sides can be made

[~UN_$ung~]

LOL...one of the funniest notions I've heard over the years.  I like to call it "The Basile Effect".  It's like the Bizzaro world fish story...throughout time, the amounts and dosages get smaller and smaller, while the old guard says things like "If we used  what they used today..." when the reality is, they had BETTER shit...real, no counterfit, no one cared, wasnt illegal, etc..

Yet, some "moral compass" only allowed them to take a few tabs blah blah...

i totally agree..............i said in in an earlier post..............every old person has there "we were so much better, tougher, more skilled back in the day because..........." story



this is just how old bodybuilders do it.............some weird game of one-ups-man-ship to see who could out under-dose the next guy



to the extent that basile is arguing that chet yorton was clean and completely natural.

think of it. he stood next to arnold on stage and was able to hold his own..........so his genetics were that superior to the great arnold swarcheneggar that chet could look lik e arnold without using steroids

[Chick]

i totally agree..............i said in in an earlier post..............every old person has there "we were so much better, tougher, more skilled back in the day because..........." story



this is just how old bodybuilders do it.............some weird game of one-ups-man-ship to see who could out under-dose the next guy



to the extent that basile is arguing that chet yorton was clean and completely natural.

think of it. he stood next to arnold on stage and was able to hold his own..........so his genetics were that superior to the great arnold swarcheneggar that chet could look lik e arnold without using steroids

Funny thing is, if you look up his contest record...he goes from placing 21st to 1st in a year...pretty tough to do when your natural at the Mr America level...

If I were a betting man, I would say that he WAS natural, then he wasn't, then he was again at the end of his IFBB days

[Vince B]

LOL...one of the funniest notions I've heard over the years.  I like to call it "The Basile Effect".  It's like the Bizzaro world fish story...throughout time, the amounts and dosages get smaller and smaller, while the old guard says things like "If we used  what they used today..." when the reality is, they had BETTER shit...real, no counterfit, no one cared, wasnt illegal, etc..

Yet, some "moral compass" only allowed them to take a few tabs blah blah...

What a total nincompoop you are Chick. The guys in the sixties and seventies did all the drug trials so that later bodybuilders knew what was effective and so on. In the sixties, people were scared about cancer and side effects. No one then knew much and the medical profession was very conservative and warned against steroids. Today we know those warnings were exaggerated.

In those days it wasn't something bodybuilders admitted, especially in public. Most were ashamed to admit they used drugs to build their muscles.

[Chick]

What a total nincompoop you are Chick. The guys in the sixties and seventies did all the drug trials so that later bodybuilders knew what was effective and so on. In the sixties, people were scared about cancer and side effects. No one then knew much and the medical profession was very conservative and warned against steroids. Today we know those warnings were exaggerated.

In those days it wasn't something bodybuilders admitted, especially in public. Most were ashamed to admit they used drugs to build their muscles.

Exactly...which is why the exaggerated claims of "natural status" cant be trusted. And also why claims of taking "2 d-bol only for a few months" by those before us, is an insult...

Steroids were real, cheap, th general public didnt even know what they were, and the government didnt give a rats ass....which was all the more reason that the guys took a SHITLOAD of gear.

[Howard]

Hard to say...no way to dispute his claims, arguments on both sides can be made

Bob Hoffman claims that shortly after Zigler invented D-bol in the 50's , many of the top guys at York and southern Cal, started on it soon after.
The amounts and types of PED's were limited until the late 60's and early 70's.

I met Chet Yorton at an AAU show in Mass., over 30 yrs ago. Quite a gentleman, soft spoken, intelligent and  a class act.
I asked him about the drug issue and he was very matter of fact about it.
He said he passed blood and urine tests and had nothing to hide. He then shrugged his shoulders, smiled and said;" What else can I do , if folks don't believe me, I can only  them my test results and word as a man."
I then picked his brain for some great diet tips and practical techniques to get a better pump when training.
He loved talking training and how to get a huge pump.
He had some impressive forarms and a "movie star" , well groomed, look to him.
I always wanted to compete in one his drug tested contests, but his organization never really took off.

[~UN_$ung~]

bump for the amount of IDIOCY in this thread.

[njflex]

Bob Hoffman claims that shortly after Zigler invented D-bol in the 50's , many of the top guys at York and southern Cal, started on it soon after.
The amounts and types of PED's were limited until the late 60's and early 70's.

I met Chet Yorton at an AAU show in Mass., over 30 yrs ago. Quite a gentleman, soft spoken, intelligent and  a class act.
I asked him about the drug issue and he was very matter of fact about it.
He said he passed blood and urine tests and had nothing to hide. He then shrugged his shoulders, smiled and said;" What else can I do , if folks don't believe me, I can only  them my test results and word as a man."
I then picked his brain for some great diet tips and practical techniques to get a better pump when training.
He loved talking training and how to get a huge pump.
He had some impressive forarms and a "movie star" , well groomed, look to him.
I always wanted to compete in one his drug tested contests, but his organization never really took off.

so chic and howard had the best and most thought out post' on this topic,and chic actually competed clean  in 90 and still did ok considering his previous best the yrs before.so it's anyones guess here on chet.

[dyslexic]

Chet had lead a pretty interesting life back in the day. He had a lot of stories, but he never went out and really flapped his lips incessantly about them.

I know that he had some pretty cool things happen when he was dabbling in the "Hollywood Scene" but he doesnt elaborate much on those either.

Chet is also largely responsible for the "natural" bodybuilding movement today.

Personally, I don't think he looks competely natural, but then none of us have really seen too many completely natural bodybuilders tap into their total potential.

Fred Hatfield talked a lot and wrote elaborate and comprehensive books on the possibilities of freaky/natural physiques, but the photos he used in his books were all known juicers.

Chet gets really adamant about being natural, but it's one of those things that nobody will ever truly know.

If you could build a body like his (granted you have the proper genetic structure) naturally, that would be really, really cool. When you look at the all natural bodybuilding mags and look at the competitors that are completely clean, it is depressing. At the same time, when you stare through the pages of Flex and MD, it is discouraging because you know your arms will never 'naturally' be bigger than your head (the one on your shoulders)

Who knows?

Everyone should try to tap into their total natural potential in the beginning. You can tell that Chet had that gifted genetic structure to work with.

Brad Pitt could easily be a top competitor if he wanted to get into bodybuilding. Those types of physiques come from genetic predisposition originally.

Ramble on...

[Vince B]

Bob Chick represents just about everything that is crap about modern day bodybuilding. Take gear, know the right people and bullshit all day long. What an jerk.

[Matt C]

dont crush their dreams chick..................t hey want SO BADLY to believe arnold, sergio, and zane-era guys all took a half tab of primobolon a day...........and that was only during the week of a contest

i makes them fell better about themselves


they dont realize that zane's nickname was "the chemist"..........i suppose they think he got that nickname by the way he mixed his protein powders

The best way to summarize it:

uggh, those iron age retards are the worst.....its some kind of bizarre badge of honor, who could out under-juice who

     

[Stavios]

Bob Chick represents just about everything that is crap about modern day bodybuilding. Take gear, know the right people and bullshit all day long. What an jerk.

Bob rocks

[~UN_$ung~]

Bob Chick represents just about everything that is crap about modern day bodybuilding. Take gear, know the right people and bullshit all day long. What an jerk.

bob chick, fucking owns pathetic basile's mind


basile is a crappy destitute old man............and like bob or not, he is livin the life..............gettin g some film work, hosting shows (he is now "the guy" in the IFBB whne it comes to MCing, PBW, lot of pull in the industry, athletes rep, supplement contract and deosnt even have to compete or be in shape



bob chick's kush life make basile's heart hurt.............lol

[Matt C]

bob chick, fucking owns pathetic basile's mind


basile is a crappy destitute old man............and like bob or not, he is livin the life..............gettin g some film work, hosting shows (he is now "the guy" in the IFBB whne it comes to MCing, PBW, lot of pull in the industry, athletes rep, supplement contract and deosnt even have to compete or be in shape



bob chick's kush life make basile's heart hurt.............lol

Is Vince the sort of ironage bodybuilder who take half a tab of dbol three times weekly one month each year?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Chet had lead a pretty interesting life back in the day. He had a lot of stories, but he never went out and really flapped his lips incessantly about them.

I know that he had some pretty cool things happen when he was dabbling in the "Hollywood Scene" but he doesnt elaborate much on those either.

Chet is also largely responsible for the "natural" bodybuilding movement today.

Personally, I don't think he looks competely natural, but then none of us have really seen too many completely natural bodybuilders tap into their total potential.

Fred Hatfield talked a lot and wrote elaborate and comprehensive books on the possibilities of freaky/natural physiques, but the photos he used in his books were all known juicers.

Chet gets really adamant about being natural, but it's one of those things that nobody will ever truly know.

If you could build a body like his (granted you have the proper genetic structure) naturally, that would be really, really cool. When you look at the all natural bodybuilding mags and look at the competitors that are completely clean, it is depressing. At the same time, when you stare through the pages of Flex and MD, it is discouraging because you know your arms will never 'naturally' be bigger than your head (the one on your shoulders)

Who knows?

Everyone should try to tap into their total natural potential in the beginning. You can tell that Chet had that gifted genetic structure to work with.

Brad Pitt could easily be a top competitor if he wanted to get into bodybuilding. Those types of physiques come from genetic predisposition originally.

Ramble on...

Yea and the "natural bodybuilding movement" today is the biggest crock of shit around.  To say the guys in the 60's used "shitloads" gear shows just how insecure and naive and plain clueless Chick is.  Their use was hardly in the "shitload" category.  I know lots of gymrats back in the day that didn't compete and they only ever used a few hundred milligrams of deca, a handful of dbol etc.  There use was very tame compared to the idiots nowadays who are using a gram of test, 600 of eq, tren and winny for a cycle.  And THEY DONT EVEN COMPETE!

[no one]

lol @ all the delusionals posting in this thread about how competitive bodybuilders in the 'golden era' of bodybuilding used miniscule amounts.

lets see- you find a substance that radically changes your physique in a short amount of time, giving you more muscle, strength and density than you could have ever achieved naturally.

yes, im sure they we're thinking 'well i dont want to get tooo big' and kept their dosages at a minimum, especially since they were competing against eachother.

wake the fuck up.

[MuscleMcMannus]

lol @ all the delusionals posting in this thread about how competitive bodybuilders in the 'golden era' of bodybuilding used miniscule amounts.

lets see- you find a substance that radically changes your physique in a short amount of time, giving you more muscle, strength and density than you could have ever achieved naturally.

yes, im sure they we're thinking 'well i dont want to get tooo big' and kept their dosages at a minimum, especially since they were competing against eachother.

wake the fuck up.

They didn't need to look like Ronnie Coleman.  So yeah if they were after massive size like the pros of today they would have used shitloads of gear.  But most of their physiques approached a certain level and they were satisfied.  In fact back then they cared a lot more about symmetry and the overall look than simply mass and size. 

[Chick]

They didn't need to look like Ronnie Coleman.  So yeah if they were after massive size like the pros of today they would have used shitloads of gear.  But most of their physiques approached a certain level and they were satisfied.  In fact back then they cared a lot more about symmetry and the overall look than simply mass and size. 

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