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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2010, 01:24:51 PM »
lee labrada is a damn midget.  does anyone ever say a jockey has great genetics?  they usually say the horse.  anyway...sorry lee...but we do have one thing in common...



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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2010, 01:28:56 PM »
Shawn was always bigger than Labrada and Lee beat him more often than not , in fact Lee usually beat guys outweighing him

the thing with Shawn is that from the time he won the Nationals in 87 until his best he really didn't improve much , he won the Nationals at 197lbs and his best showings he was 205lbs he tried to add more size at the expense of conditioning ( 215lbs ) and his placements fell , he was consistent and looked great but Lee was better

Not this again. Shawn came 13th in the 1988 Olympia, hope this helps.

Have you been classy enough to concede that semantically speaking Vic Richards is an unbeaten pro yet?  ;D

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2010, 01:35:44 PM »
Not this again. Shawn came 13th in the 1988 Olympia, hope this helps.

Have you been classy enough to concede that semantically speaking Vic Richards is an unbeaten pro yet?  ;D

Vic isn't an ' undefeated ' pro because he never competed in order to be defeated or undefeated you have to compete and Vic NEVER stepped on a pro stage  ;)

and didn't I just point out Shawn placed 13th in 88?  ???

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2010, 01:43:43 PM »
"the thing with Shawn is that from the time he won the Nationals in 87 until his best he really didn't improve much ". Well surely 13th to 2nd in the O says otherwise.

Has Vic Richards ever been defeated? Do you know what semantics means?

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2010, 01:52:20 PM »
"the thing with Shawn is that from the time he won the Nationals in 87 until his best he really didn't improve much ". Well surely 13th to 2nd in the O says otherwise.

Has Vic Richards ever been defeated? Do you know what semantics means?


Shawn messed up on his prep his conditioning was off hence the lower place as far as the Nationals to his best showings he didn't improve that much 8 lbs

I know what semantics mean , and the more important question is did Vic ever put himself in a position to be defeated? NO in order to be defeated or undefeated you need to test yourself he never did so he can't technically be called undefeated , undefeated means you weren't beat by anyone in order to not be beat you have to compare yourself he never did , he technically didn't even earn his pro card  :-\

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2010, 02:30:32 PM »
Ive stood eye to eye with Cutler... And im 5'9

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2010, 03:26:56 PM »
I always thought as far as uncrowned Olympians it goes Kevin, Shawn, Flex, everyone else.

What the fuck is that word supposed to mean? They weren't good enough to win the Olympia, so they didn't, and they were never crowned. They aren't uncrowned anything.  ::)

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2010, 06:07:22 PM »
What the fuck is that word supposed to mean? They weren't good enough to win the Olympia, so they didn't, and they were never crowned. They aren't uncrowned anything.  ::)

shawn should have been crowned in 1994.
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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2010, 06:10:57 PM »
shawn should have been crowned in 1994.

Says...you.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2010, 06:16:14 PM »
Says...you.

says most knowledable fans, industry insiders and contest reporters.. :P
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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2010, 08:30:33 PM »
Official released height stats vs. Un~sung's made up stats... hmmm which do I believe?

right, cause athletic and organizations NEVER over or under bill athletes height ::) ::)  idiot, you probably believe every PR stsatment by celebrities and stump speeches by politicians........i mean, why would those in power EVER lie, that would be silly

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2010, 01:19:37 AM »
says most stupid fans, industry insiders and contest reporters.. :P

fans , industry insiders and contest reporters do NOT judge contest , so what they ' say ' means shit compared to what the judges say  ;)

and who? Johnny Fitness? hahahahahahahaha and a bunch of Getbig fanboys? Shawn in 94 said he got the place he deserved and don't embarrass yourself with the biggest mouth in the sport was just towing the party line and MuscleMag which you cling to said outright Yates wasn't given a gift 

as usual all your claims contradict the facts. now 01 was an extremely controversial contest as right in line with your contradiction of facts & reality you claim Ronnie dominated hahahahahaha keep contradicting history , facts and reality and I'll keep showing everybody how dumb you are.  ;)

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2010, 01:21:45 AM »
shawn should have been crowned in 1994.

Not according to the judges and they silence anyone else.  :D in fact Shawn was very lucky to beat Kevin this year he was gifted second never mind first  ;)

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2010, 01:39:07 AM »
After a nice week-end, it's always nice to see that Hulkster hasn't been to able to keep his idiotic judgments to himself. As much as I like Shawn Ray, he never had the Labrada's structure and proportions. When in shape, Labrada beat him all the time and for good reasons. The only thing that stopped Labrada for being at least twice 'O was his height, end of story and a lot of people who have been at the 'O in '89 and '90 and saw the thing live will still tell you that Labrada could or should have been taking it. I never heard one person say the same about '94, only people judging from pics (and not even videos) make up that story. Bbbing was really much better back then and Levrone was at his best in '92 (he looked great also in '95 but Yates once again showed up better). Yates was not that different from '91 but there's no doubt he was the best at this contest. He just changed the face of Bbing (not necessarily for the best) in '93.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2010, 01:55:05 AM »
Labrada in 89, Shawn in 90 for sure

they were the best onstage those years respectively

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2010, 02:10:42 AM »
Labrada in 89, Shawn in 90 for sure

they were the best onstage those years respectively

top 20 bbers of all time for sure

Shawn had the conditioning in '90 but Labrada was better as far as proportions, balance, symmetry are concerned. Never thought Ray could really overcome the fact that Labrada had (apart from his height) once of the best structures in the history of Bbing (if not the best).

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2010, 04:51:31 AM »

some very creative numbers your throwing aaround there cutler is billed at 5'9 he is really 5'8 ( i have stood next to him plenty of times) so shawn ray is only an inch or two below cutler, no, sorry, shawn ray is  afucking midget..........under 5'5

I`m 5"6`,and Shawn is shorter than me,i`ve got a pic of us stood together from 1990 and even though i`m wearing trainers he looks a couple of inches shorter.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2010, 04:58:24 AM »
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Lee NEVER placed below 5th in a pro contest

yeah, and most of his career was spent facing guys like mike christian and rich gaspari, guys that would never have made the top 6 in 93 or 94..

as correctly pointed out, Labrada fizzled when Shawn and the rest of the competition got much better.

as always, you are alone in your fucked up opinion.. ::)

and nice ignore on my back double bi point. shawn as he looked in 93/4/5 was FAR above Flea.

far above:

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2010, 05:05:02 AM »
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Not this again.

yup. ND is as fucked up as ever.. ::)

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2010, 07:24:32 AM »
yeah, and most of his career was spent facing guys like mike christian and rich gaspari, guys that would never have made the top 6 in 93 or 94..

as correctly pointed out, Labrada fizzled when Shawn and the rest of the competition got much better.

why would Labrada not be compared to Gaspari & Christian? that was the competition he had then.

Ray may have stepped it up, and Labrada instead of playing the size game and try to come in more shredded, did the right thing and moved on to other things, nothing more to prove, he had reached the end of his career.

He can only be compared to his peers in his era, that is why the whole Yates vs Coleman thing doesn't make sense either.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2010, 09:05:47 AM »
I could be wrong here... But I have to kinda side with ND here. I think Shawn Ray was willing to up his drug doses above and beyond Labrada's levels (shawn did it only to try to keep up with Wheeler and Levrone). I think Labrada saw what was happening and bowed out (smart move).

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2010, 09:22:18 AM »
Haha Hulkster melting down cause he doesnt have people agreeing with him on Sean being better than Lee. Haha.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2010, 09:55:12 AM »
why would Labrada not be compared to Gaspari & Christian? that was the competition he had then.

Ray may have stepped it up, and Labrada instead of playing the size game and try to come in more shredded, did the right thing and moved on to other things, nothing more to prove, he had reached the end of his career.

He can only be compared to his peers in his era, that is why the whole Yates vs Coleman thing doesn't make sense either.
When Shawn got 13th place he was 201.5 pounds. I read that Labrada never competes over 196...when I had watched the 1993 Mr. O, I had noticed how small both Labrada and Ray's arms were, and in Labrada's case how small his thighs were and how Flex's waist seemed smaller than his. I think Labrada could have competed at over 200 pounds, but he was near the end of career so why risk it. The Haney
years, you noticed that legs were smaller than today---Shawn had to try and keep his in check, but the rest went with the smallish legs criteria, because the Champ, Haney, legs smallish compared to his huge torso.
Without a doubt, the Dorian yrs had better competition and Labrada after 93 if he still was taking bbing as seriously (94,95,96) were not that serious, just cruise control, he would have been crushed. Ray, had his prep down pat, Flex was decent, Ronnie was just coming on line, Nasser and Kev were lethal, and the others who were mid pack. They all were in a diff league, they would crush him...

And even in the Ronnie yrs. I beg to differ, when Shawn came in 215 in 1998, he was still as sharp, it was by 2001-2002, where he was 218 he wasn't as sharp. Just as Shawn Ray was a throwback to another era so was Labrada, but sub 200 pounders aren't gonna Jack against Dorian, Ronnie, today's Jay, Dex, Vic, Phil, etc.
Even in the 202s, Labrada would get killed now...I think Kevin Engish probably uses Labrada's weight with dumbell presses...Structure wise he was great, just like Shawn, and Shawn, was the 90s Labrada, great lines,lighter, shorter.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2010, 10:05:11 AM »
When Shawn got 13th place he was 201.5 pounds. I read that Labrada never competes over 196...when I had watched the 1993 Mr. O, I had noticed how small both Labrada and Ray's arms were, and in Labrada's case how small his thighs were and how Flex's waist seemed smaller than his. I think Labrada could have competed at over 200 pounds, but he was near the end of career so why risk it. The Haney
years, you noticed that legs were smaller than today---Shawn had to try and keep his in check, but the rest went with the smallish legs criteria, because the Champ, Haney, legs smallish compared to his huge torso.
Without a doubt, the Dorian yrs had better competition and Labrada after 93 if he still was taking bbing as seriously (94,95,96) were not that serious, just cruise control, he would have been crushed. Ray, had his prep down pat, Flex was decent, Ronnie was just coming on line, Nasser and Kev were lethal, and the others who were mid pack. They all were in a diff league, they would crush him...

And even in the Ronnie yrs. I beg to differ, when Shawn came in 215 in 1998, he was still as sharp, it was by 2001-2002, where he was 218 he wasn't as sharp. Just as Shawn Ray was a throwback to another era so was Labrada, but sub 200 pounders aren't gonna Jack against Dorian, Ronnie, today's Jay, Dex, Vic, Phil, etc.
Even in the 202s, Labrada would get killed now...I think Kevin Engish probably uses Labrada's weight with dumbell presses...Structure wise he was great, just like Shawn, and Shawn, was the 90s Labrada, great lines,lighter, shorter.

agree, especially highlited bit. its impossible to stand next to current crop, if you rely on proportion and lines.

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Re: Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray
« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2010, 10:14:42 AM »
I`m 5"6`,and Shawn is shorter than me,i`ve got a pic of us stood together from 1990 and even though i`m wearing trainers he looks a couple of inches shorter.

You look about same height. Shawn could even be taller than you.