Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray

[Hulkster]

Haha Hulkster melting down cause he doesnt have people agreeing with him on Sean being better than Lee. Haha.

not many people are agreeing.

fact is, you can spout off career stats like Flowerboy does as if they mean something, but the facts are that when you compare physiques at their respective bests (not stats) its not even close:

just like the ronnie dorian 'debate": dorian had better career stats (less losses), but gets destroyed on a visual physique to physique comparison.

[Hulkster]

^
ouch. you can really see why Flea retired.

he knew the new and improved Shawn, and the new pros like Flex and Kevin were so far above him its not even funny.

luckily for him he bowed out before he got badly embarassed by Shawn et al.

[Grape Ape]

Wow, who would have thought Hulkster would take two separate clasped most-muscular photos from different times and draw definitive conclusions from them?  Never seen that before.

[Shockwave]

not many people are agreeing.

fact is, you can spout off career stats like Flowerboy does as if they mean something, but the facts are that when you compare physiques at their respective bests (not stats) its not even close:

just like the ronnie dorian 'debate": dorian had better career stats (less losses), but gets destroyed on a visual physique to physique comparison.

HahahahaHAHAHAHAHAH.
Hulksters own little reality strikes again.
Pathetic.
Keep melting down and being wrong fag! Makes all the rest of us laugh.

[Hulkster]

Wow, who would have thought Hulkster would take two separate clasped most-muscular photos from different times and draw definitive conclusions from them?  Never seen that before.

the truth that lee at his best was not as good as shawn at his best hurts you, doesn't it?

only a true moron would think that Labrada could stand beside the likes of this and not get killed.

oh wait, he did. thats right. Shawn>Flea.

[Hulkster]

poor flea. in pose after pose he just loses.

and the nuthuggers are rallying to his cause LOL

[Shockwave]

the truth that lee at his best was not as good as shawn at his best hurts you, doesn't it?

only a true moron would think that Labrada could stand beside the likes of this and not get killed.

oh wait, he did. thats right. Shawn>Flea.

Hahahaha!
Youre so predictable, its funny. Nothing you can say changes the fact that Shawn lost to Flea more than he beat him.
Keep melting down, youre keeping everyone else entertained.

[Hulkster]

yes, and he was not in anywhere near career best shape when he did.

its like saying because Porter Cotrell and Charles Clairmonte beat ronnie a million times (which they did) that they would beat him in top shape too.

typical fucked up guy logic..

[Grape Ape]

the truth that lee at his best was not as good as shawn at his best hurts you, doesn't it?

I can say with all honesty that it doesn't, and that I didn't think about it once after I logged off.  Labrada vs. Ray isn't really a hot button topic these days.

But I can say it's amazing that you've followed this little subculture to the extent that you have, and you still have no idea how to formulate an argument, and struggle so much to defend your position.   You could lose a Coleman vs. Kamali argument, let alone Yates.

[Hulkster]

LOL wow, someone as fucked up as ND and co.

amazing.

[Shockwave]

yes, and he was not in anywhere near career best shape when he did.

its like saying because Porter Cotrell and Charles Clairmonte beat ronnie a million times (which they did) that they would beat him in top shape too.

typical fucked up guy logic..

Hahahahahahhahahahahaha Again you fail Hulkster. And for the record I like Shawns physique much better.
Hahahahahahah

[Hulkster]

And for the record I like Shawns physique much better

don't tell ND that. he might not give you any more head

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah, and most of his career was spent facing guys like mike christian and rich gaspari, guys that would never have made the top 6 in 93 or 94..

as correctly pointed out, Labrada fizzled when Shawn and the rest of the competition got much better.

as always, you are alone in your fucked up opinion..

and nice ignore on my back double bi point. shawn as he looked in 93/4/5 was FAR above Flea.

far above:

hahahahahaha Labrada ' fizzled ' moron he never placed below 5th in a pro contest and he retired in 1995 that's fizzling you moron? he beat Haney in the entire prejudging you forgot that and he beat Shawn 3 out of 4 times and he has more pro wins than Ray so once again YOU FAIL

and the back double biceps pose means what? even saying Shawn wins it that means what in the scheme of things stupid? still can't grasp the concept that contest are NOT won with a single pose

and I'm alone in my ' opinion ' ? says who you? I have facts backing mine up not Johnny Fitness   

simple fact , Shawn faced Lee 4 times and lost 3 , Lee has more pro wins than Ray and beat Haney in the prejuding in 1990 , out of the two we know Lee is better 

as usual the facts crush your stupidity

[Hulkster]

he beat Haney in the entire prejudging

as if shawn in his 1994 shape wouldn't have done the same thing?

hell, he would have won the whole fucking show.

you are missing the point that even your fuckbuddy Shockwave knows:

career stats and achievements mean nothing if Labrada loses in a direct physique to physique comparison.

which he does quite easily.

Shawn peaked in the mid 90's. different era than Flea.

[NarcissisticDeity]

not many people are agreeing.

fact is, you can spout off career stats like Flowerboy does as if they mean something, but the facts are that when you compare physiques at their respective bests (not stats) its not even close:

just like the ronnie dorian 'debate": dorian had better career stats (less losses), but gets destroyed on a visual physique to physique comparison.

hahahahaha I love your gross overstatements , " the facts don't matter carefully selected pictures and my expert critique does afterall I'm the guy who said Ronnie's calves are more detailed than Dorians and Dorian lost the most dominate Mr Olympia contest in history " 

when you compared physiques , Lee has a better structure , better balance & proportion , better aesthetics and he was just as good if not a better poser than Ray , he beat Ray head to head 3 times out of 4 and has more pro wins , Lee is hands down better than Ray

[Shockwave]

as if shawn in his 1994 shape wouldn't have done the same thing?

hell, he would have won the whole fucking show.

you are missing the point that even your fuckbuddy Shockwave knows:

career stats and achievements mean nothing if Labrada loses in a direct physique to physique comparison.

which he does quite easily.

Shawn peaked in the mid 90's. different era than Flea.

Excuse me? Im not dumb enough to think that my opinion on which physique I like better means who would win a contest, you fucking retard.

Fact is Labrada beat Ray more than he lost. Thats just fact jack.

[Hulkster]

as usual the facts crush your stupidity

too bad your paper stats can't erase the physical comparison between the two:

 

no contest: look closely ND. no contest. Flea loses readily.

[Hulkster]

Fact is Labrada beat Ray more than he lost

..and Charles Clairmonte beat Ronnie Coleman more times than Ronnie beat him.

consider that and see the fucked up logic you are using..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Wow, who would have thought Hulkster would take two separate clasped most-muscular photos from different times and draw definitive conclusions from them?  Never seen that before.

textbook Hulkster , carefully select pics make a empty claim and thinks he's proved something , the only thing he's proven is how dumb he is.

[NarcissisticDeity]

..and Charles Clairmonte beat Ronnie Coleman more times than Ronnie beat him.

consider that and see the fucked up logic you are using..

That has nothing to do with Ray/Labrada none what so ever , Ray didn't hit his peak 5 years after Lee beat him , recall dummy theres not much a difference between Ray from the Nationals to Ray at his ' peak ' just 8lbs he was 201 in 88 and 205 in 94 so spare us all he wasn't at his peak , Ronnie was 230lbs when Clairmonte beat him not the 250 when he won

fucked up logic? coming from someone who carefully selects ONE picture and claims one guy isn't as good as another based soley on that and the fact we should ignore the fact Lee always beat Ray 

[NarcissisticDeity]

too bad your paper stats can't erase the physical comparison between the two:

 

no contest: look closely ND. no contest. Flea loses readily.

so easy to make you look stupid  1992 a contest in which " Flea " crushed Shawn in that pose and Shawn is nearly identical in this year as he was in 1994 

opppsss not much to say huh? dumbass keep clinging to a single pose your pea-brain still can't grasp the concept that contests aren't won by a single pose another weak attempt which your known for ( most muscular anyone? )

and to further add insult to injury read the caption dumbass " Shawn Ray was in the best shape of his life " hahahahaha and he still got crushed by Lee Labrada , countdown to the excuses.......3......2.. ....1 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Excuse me? Im not dumb enough to think that my opinion on which physique I like better means who would win a contest, you fucking retard.

Fact is Labrada beat Ray more than he lost. Thats just fact jack.

ouch Dumbster getting bitch slapped 

Shawn was no where near his peak.... the caption reads " Shawn was in the best shape of his life " LMFAO and lost to Labrada

Dumbster = fucked again 

[JP_RC]

Seriously ND? Labrada better than Shawn Ray physique wise? You have to be kidding.

I don't care on who beat who and how many times, the fact is: Shawn Ray's best ever is much better than  Labradas' best ever.

I don't know if you say these things just to pick a fight with Hulkster or what, but Shawn was so much better than Labrada physique wise its not even a question.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Seriously ND? Labrada better than Shawn Ray physique wise? You have to be kidding.

I don't care on who beat who and how many times, the fact is: Shawn Ray's best ever is much better than  Labradas' best ever.

I don't know if you say these things just to pick a fight with Hulkster or what, but Shawn was so much better than Labrada physique wise its not even a question.

No Shawn Ray was much better 

and what makes it a ' fact ' Shawn's best ever is not only better than Lees , but ' much better ' what exactly about this makes it a fact? please elaborate on that. what makes your blanket statement based on personal preference a fact?

[JP_RC]

Just compare them at their best presentations and you'll see. What is Labrada's best ever in your opinion?
Compare it to Shawn in 93, 94 or 95 and you'll see why Shawn's physique was much better than his.

I probably took it too far by saying its a "fact", but still its pretty obvious.