Mr Olympia 1992 screenshots: Dorian, Levrone, Labrada and Ray

[NarcissisticDeity]

Just compare them at their best presentations and you'll see. What is Labrada's best ever in your opinion?
Compare it to Shawn in 93, 94 or 95 and you'll see why Shawn's physique was much better than his.

I probably took it too far by saying its a "fact", but still its pretty obvious.

It's pretty obvious to who? not me I think it's pretty obvious Lee is better so did the judges , and lets forget what they think 

[~UN_$ung~]

Wow, dem' so dry glutes.................. ...steve blechman approved

[KevinP85]

It's pretty obvious to who? not me I think it's pretty obvious Lee is better so did the judges , and lets forget what they think 

Let's forget the judges for a sec, since this "sport," is subjective.

Who in your opinion who had a better physique; Shawn or Lee.

I pick Shawn.

[JP_RC]

Let's forget the judges for a sec, since this "sport," is subjective.

Who in your opinion who had a better physique; Shawn or Lee.

I pick Shawn.

Most will pick Shawn, myself included.

[JP_RC]

It's pretty obvious to who? not me I think it's pretty obvious Lee is better so did the judges , and lets forget what they think 

Ok, its your opinion Lee was better. The judges you say? Don't forget Shawn beat Labrada in 93 and they didn't even face each other when Shawn was at his best ever.
Its not even a matter of who beat who at what contest or what the judges thought of that, again just compare them at their respective best years and you'll see. Shawn was better.

[Hulkster]

The judges you say? Don't forget Shawn beat Labrada in 93 and they didn't even face each other when Shawn was at his best ever

exactly. ND is being his usual stupid delusional self..

I have pointed out to him many times since he loves to use "the judges" ( ) as the be all end all, that Labrada and Shawn were in their career bests shapes respectively in 1993 and Lee lost badly.

yet he loves to ignore this and concentrate on contests where shawn was nowhere near peak form..

[Hulkster]

Seriously ND? Labrada better than Shawn Ray physique wise? You have to be kidding.

I don't care on who beat who and how many times, the fact is: Shawn Ray's best ever is much better than  Labradas' best ever.

I don't know if you say these things just to pick a fight with Hulkster or what, but Shawn was so much better than Labrada physique wise its not even a question.

no, he is not doing this just to pick a fight.

he is doing this because he is genuinely stupid and knows very little about the sport or how to assess physiques properly.


textbook ND..

[Hulkster]

Its not even a matter of who beat who at what contest or what the judges thought of that, again just compare them at their respective best years and you'll see.

I have been saying this and showing it with pics for the last 5 pages..

hell, a similar argument with ronnie/dorian has been used for 1700 pages in the truce thread, but again, ND and Co. are just too damn dumb..

[Fatpanda]

you two would argue black was white !

which would be true i suppose if we were talking about michael jackson  carry on.

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly. ND is being his usual stupid delusional self..

I have pointed out to him many times since he loves to use "the judges" ( ) as the be all end all, that Labrada and Shawn were in their career bests shapes respectively in 1993 and Lee lost badly.

yet he loves to ignore this and concentrate on contests where shawn was nowhere near peak form..

LMFAO no where peak form says the troll who posts pics of Dorian 97 compared to Ronnie 99 STFU fanboy

Lee beat Shawn 3 times out of 4 this clearly shows who was better , NOT Lee's fault Shawn wasn't good enough

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ok, its your opinion Lee was better. The judges you say? Don't forget Shawn beat Labrada in 93 and they didn't even face each other when Shawn was at his best ever.
Its not even a matter of who beat who at what contest or what the judges thought of that, again just compare them at their respective best years and you'll see. Shawn was better.

Lee beat Shawn 3 out of 4 and spare me Shawn wasn't good enough yet , Shawn was the fucking same for years on end that back double biceps shot I posted 1992 is identical to 1993/1994 yet he was no where near his best my ass 

I see Lee hands down better than Shawn , better symmetry , better aesthetics , better balance , better proportions , equal if not better posing , the only area he's down in his muscular bulk , Shawn is a mini-mass monster with a host a structual flaws that you can't find in Lee

you think Shawn's weaknesses got any better 2 years later?  think again

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, he is not doing this just to pick a fight.

he is doing this because he is genuinely stupid and knows very little about the sport or how to assess physiques properly.


textbook ND..

hahahahahaha says the dumbass who claimed Dorian lost in 93 and Ronnie dominated in 01 

I'm showing you once again how far off the mark you are as usual , you have an idea and it's wrong and it's wrong because you're stupid and can't look past what you THINK wins contests

at their best Lee Labrada outclasses Shawn Ray , he makes him look a wanna-be

[NarcissisticDeity]

I have been saying this and showing it with pics for the last 5 pages..

hell, a similar argument with ronnie/dorian has been used for 1700 pages in the truce thread, but again, ND and Co. are just too damn dumb..

hahahahahaha " I've been contradicting the facts and throwing out everything that counts for ages now , posting carefully selected pics are crying see "

I look at the pics between the two and come to the conclusion Shawn isn't in Lee's league , I know how contests are judged , how the criteria is applied and can be objective , you're the moron who thinks Ronnie's calves are more detailed and Dorian lost the most dominate win in the contest's history and Ronnie dominated a contest he lost the whole prejudging in

you know shit and I shit on your ' opinion ' 

[Hulkster]

I think its hilarious that ND keeps saying that 'the judges' say Labrada was better when in 1993 both showed up at their career best and Labrada lost miserably.

anyone else see the irony in this? LOL

classic ND bullshit.

I love it.

all Flea could do is sit back and watch with jealousy as Shawn took top 3:

[Hulkster]

Flea couldn't touch this level with a 10 foot pole.

and he knew it. so he retired.

the competition got much better than he was. so he bowed out gracefully.

[Shockwave]

I think its hilarious that ND keeps saying that 'the judges' say Labrada was better when in 1993 both showed up at their career best and Labrada lost miserably.

anyone else see the irony in this? LOL

classic ND bullshit.

I love it.

all Flea could do is sit back and watch with jealousy as Shawn took top 3:

Yates looks fukkin epic in that pic.
Ray does too.

[Hulkster]

I like the way shawn always hit the classic vacuum shot when doing a front double bi.

poor Flea. LOL

[Aerian]

I think its hilarious that ND keeps saying that 'the judges' say Labrada was better when in 1993 both showed up at their career best and Labrada lost miserably.

anyone else see the irony in this? LOL

classic ND bullshit.

I love it.

all Flea could do is sit back and watch with jealousy as Shawn took top 3:

Damn that is one hellova pic of Dorian.   

[Hulkster]

Damn that is one hellova pic of Dorian.  

yeah, dorian looked good in 93. its just too bad he didn't have decent arms.

even pre tear, the left arm is barely there in that shot. no definition at all. just looks soft and blah.

quads aren't so great either. standing next to shawn you can really see how the lack of delineation between the quad muscles hurts him. shawns quads look great.

its an okay shot of dorian but not as great as the nuthuggers think.

a careful eye sees many of the flaws. luckily there are those on this board to point things out to the "out of the loop" nuthuggers LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah, dorian looked good in 93. its just too bad he didn't have decent arms.

even pre tear, the left arm is barely there in that shot. no definition at all. just looks soft and blah.

quads aren't so great either. standing next to shawn you can really see how the lack of delineation between the quad muscles hurts him. shawns quads look great.

its an okay shot of dorian but not as great as the nuthuggers think.

a careful eye sees many of the flaws. luckily there are those on this board to point things out to the "out of the loop" nuthuggers LOL

a ' careful eye ' seen that contest and said Dorian lost BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA lost the most dominating Olympia win in the history of the contest to this day and according to the ' careful eye ' he lost hehehehehehehehehe

you don't know jackshit and Dorian is so far ahead of Shawn Ray in that pose it's laughable he even got compared and they did it as a favor to the audience 

' it's an ok shot of Dorian not as great as the nutthuggers think ' still in denial just how far ahead Dorian was at this contest huh? Dorian was so far and ahead of the competition they didn't even need him in the muscularity round and you think that's just an ' o.k. shot ' LMFAO a contest in which Samir Bannout said Dorian was first , second and third , a contest in which Flex Wheeler was so humbled he conceded Dorian is unbeatable ( and turned his back on Ronnie 99 said declared he was #1  )

you are always good for a laugh fanboy 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I think its hilarious that ND keeps saying that 'the judges' say Labrada was better when in 1993 both showed up at their career best and Labrada lost miserably.

anyone else see the irony in this? LOL

classic ND bullshit.

I love it.

all Flea could do is sit back and watch with jealousy as Shawn took top 3:

I think it's hilarious you keep insisting 1993 was their respective bests and it's NOT

Shawn faced Lee four times , lost three , Shawn sucks compared to Lee , Lee won 7 pro shows , Shawn 2 hahahahaha Shawn sucks compared to Lee , Shawn was number 13 on the 20 most aesthetic physiques of all-time Lee was number 4 , Shawn sucks compared to Lee 

Lee is everything Shawn wished he could be

[Shockwave]

I have come to the very bottom of why Hulkster and ND hate each other so much.
Hulkster argues intangibles, ND argues in reality.
ND goes by what happened, who won what, and concrete absolutes. (regardless of his personal opinion)
Hulkster argues based on passion, his opinion, and how he feels people would have done if HE was judging. (He ignores what actually happened, the absolutes such as placings, winning percentages, which is what ND relies on)
Its no wonder that these two are at each others throats all the time.

One is like a religious fanatic.
The other is an Atheist.
Lol.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I have come to the very bottom of why Hulkster and ND hate each other so much.
Hulkster argues intangibles, ND argues in reality.
ND goes by what happened, who won what, and concrete absolutes. (regardless of his personal opinion)
Hulkster argues based on passion, his opinion, and how he feels people would have done if HE was judging. (He ignores what actually happened, the absolutes such as placings, winning percentages, which is what ND relies on)
Its no wonder that these two are at each others throats all the time.

One is like a religious fanatic.
The other is an Atheist.
Lol.

I don't hate Hulkster , I enjoy embarrassing him , he hates me which is why he tried these pathetic attempts at attacking everything except the facts. I've made him look so stupid for so many years he's looking to equal the score and it's never gonna happen because he's dumb  

he types shit that just contradicts everything and I enjoy pointing out how stupid he is , this is the guy who said Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex , this statement alone proves that he's retarded and anything he types is wrong because he's so far off the mark it's beyond the point of being retarded , Ronnie's calves are more detailed in 1999 than Dorian's ever were   I mean WTF? he can never assess who is better he would have to remove his head from Ronnie's striated ass and get a clue.

Hulkster types I make him look stupid he melts down I laugh until the next time.  

[Immortal_Technique]

Shawn messed up on his prep his conditioning was off hence the lower place as far as the Nationals to his best showings he didn't improve that much 8 lbs

I know what semantics mean , and the more important question is did Vic ever put himself in a position to be defeated? NO in order to be defeated or undefeated you need to test yourself he never did so he can't technically be called undefeated , undefeated means you weren't beat by anyone in order to not be beat you have to compare yourself he never did , he technically didn't even earn his pro card 

8lb + improved conditioning on a small guy can be a big deal.

Vic Richards was a pro, and he was never defeated, hope this helps. I understand what you are saying, but strictly speaking it is incorrect.

[NarcissisticDeity]

8lb + improved conditioning on a small guy can be a big deal.

Vic Richards was a pro, and he was never defeated, hope this helps. I understand what you are saying, but strictly speaking it is incorrect.

8 lbs over his ENTIRE FUCKING CAREER 

Vic never competed on a pro stage in order to see if he would remain defeated or undefeated  he never even really turned pro and would have been left for dead if he tried to really earn his pro card