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has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« on: August 21, 2010, 02:30:36 PM »
im sick and tired of working out consistently for years and making only tiny gains. i know my genetics suck but im going to try something which i have often ridiculed- im gonna eat protein every 3 hours consistently, and eat much more calories in general. i might gain fat but i dont care, i can lose it all just by skipping a few meals and sleeping on an empty stomach.
has this actually worked for anyone?
if this doesnt work i know only steroids can help me.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 02:40:24 PM »
nop, doesn't change shit for me.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 02:40:50 PM »
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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 02:42:24 PM »
once protein requirements are met, any increase in calories is just as effective for mass gains.

raise calories 500 per day and always increase weight on the bar - you will grow.
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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 02:51:24 PM »
No intake over 1 gr per lb has helped me with better gains, I just wasted calories that could've been used with precious carbs.

I've been as low as 0.75 gr per lb these days and I've noticed very little difference as far as muscle gain/loss too, I think if you're natural there is no point in eating too many calories espacially from protein.

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »
i was thinking, your macros would have a big say in protein requirements, more so on low calories.

i.e. a low carb diet would need higher protein.

while a high/mod carb diet would not need as much protein due to carbs being protein sparring.

a low carb, low protein would be disastrous.
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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 03:14:23 PM »
then i guess im at or near my natural limit since i havent gained weight or strength in years. what a disappointmen lol, im way too small still.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 03:16:17 PM »
Only when I was on a shitload of gear, and even then I never took over 250 grams a day, at a weight of 265 (highest I ever reached) now I'm 238 and happy as shit.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 03:21:36 PM »
then i guess im at or near my natural limit since i havent gained weight or strength in years. what a disappointmen lol, im way too small still.

need to find steroids...

are there any other changes you can make like drinking less, sleeping more, changing your workouts.
I've been lifting for years too and I recently decided to lower my volume to 2 sets per excercise with ~ 3-4 exercises and I've been getting stronger almost every workout (been doing this about 10 weeks now).  

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 03:24:44 PM »
im sick and tired of working out consistently for years and making only tiny gains. i know my genetics suck but im going to try something which i have often ridiculed- im gonna eat protein every 3 hours consistently, and eat much more calories in general. i might gain fat but i dont care, i can lose it all just by skipping a few meals and sleeping on an empty stomach.
has this actually worked for anyone?
if this doesnt work i know only steroids can help me.
that always helps me

you don't need riduculous ammounts either, just constant fuel

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 03:25:13 PM »
as long as its just protein yes....but if it more of everything...no..

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 03:31:53 PM »
I also take Mass Aminos and Ultra 40 with every whole food meal.  This usually add's ~ an extra 10 or 11 grams of protein per meal and I guess you could do them in btw meals too

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2010, 03:55:43 PM »
I also take Mass Aminos and Ultra 40 with every whole food meal.  This usually add's ~ an extra 10 or 11 grams of protein per meal and I guess you could do them in btw meals too

amino acids and proviron are the **REAL** two secrets of the pro's.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2010, 04:01:45 PM »
When I eat 3 regular, moderate meals each day (1-2 protein, 1-2 carbs) and drink 2-3 shakes (2 scoops whey with water), I'm way harder (no homo) than I am without the protein shakes.

There are times on vacation or when I'm lazy, that I'll stop shakes for a few days.  And I get soft pretty quick. 

I sure don't buy into the "500 grams a day" bullshit.  But 250 a day is awesome, and 50 grams a day sucks.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 04:06:04 PM »
Protein... ha ha.


One of the biggest bodybuilding lies. Bodybuilding magazines would go out of business if people really knew.


Pregnant women need a little extra, then maybe someone recovering from a serious injury... bodybuilders? Bunch of crap.



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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 10:17:59 PM »
Upping the protein intake has always worked for me, especially when its spaced in about 5-6 meals at 40-50 grams per meal.  Try and get at least 1 gram per pound of bodyweight.

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 10:20:21 PM »
When I eat 3 regular, moderate meals each day (1-2 protein, 1-2 carbs) and drink 2-3 shakes (2 scoops whey with water), I'm way harder (no homo) than I am without the protein shakes.

There are times on vacation or when I'm lazy, that I'll stop shakes for a few days.  And I get soft pretty quick. 

I sure don't buy into the "500 grams a day" bullshit.  But 250 a day is awesome, and 50 grams a day sucks.


Definetly, I have idiot friends that ramp up to 450-500 a day and all they get is extra protein farts.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 10:26:40 PM »
No more so than raising overall calories, and carbs and fats are way more fun to eat.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 11:52:03 PM »
yes 10 years ago when i started, after 6 month i started to stale, because i was eating shit.

 i up the protein from nothing to 180 gr and started gaining mass.

it was clearly benefic.
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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2010, 12:00:43 AM »
Definetly, I have idiot friends that ramp up to 450-500 a day and all they get is extra protein farts.

you can smell those guys in the gym from time to time.

a protein fart is like none other

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 01:14:31 AM »
One of the funny things about protein requirements is that it was always 1 gram per kilo of bodyweight.  Then the supplement industry hit a real boom and suddenly it was 1 gram per pound.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2010, 01:16:53 AM »
I never got anywhere until I started taking endorush and egg whites international.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2010, 04:34:14 AM »
Nope other than stinking.

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2010, 04:52:08 AM »
I think you can up protein only to a point, and then there becomes a point of diminishing returns.

Using myself as an example, I've been as high as 500 grams of protein a day in the past and it didn't do anything for me, but 300-400 grams is alright for me as long as my total calories are high too. 1 gram per pound of bodyweight isn't enough for me and I struggle to maintain because my calorie consumption drops as a result also. Like, someone else in the thread said - add extra weight on the bar and really make the effort, as well as increasing total calories in the form of a bit extra protein, complex carbs, and fats and you'll see more gains.

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Re: has anyone actually made big gains by upping protein?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2010, 05:14:56 AM »
once protein requirements are met, any increase in calories is just as effective for mass gains.

raise calories 500 per day and always increase weight on the bar - you will grow.

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